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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 13:05:33 GMT -5
Rose appears to have had almost no impact on the hiring process. One initial call with the search firm, and no other input? That's what you get from your four-decade veteran coach? That's odd. Based on his answer, you have no reason to conclude that he had "almost no impact on the hiring process." Drawing on Mrs. Nyline's over 15 years of experience with C-level executive searches, input from intelligent, experienced, thoughtful, and honest people, like Coach Rose, about who are the best candidates, and who are not, and why, is invaluable, and absolutely shapes how a search goes. With that kind of person, you don't need multiple calls to get that information, and you take their input seriously. So I don't find that odd at all. If you're saying he didn't get to choose person "A" over person "B," then I'll concede that point. Or if you're saying he should have been a "voting" member of the search committee, or should have been consulted every step of the way (which assumes more information was needed each step of the way -- an assumption I think is incorrect), well, you are entitled to that opinion. But it is simply not accurate to say that his input had "almost no impact on the hiring process."
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Post by dizzydean on Jan 12, 2022 13:09:08 GMT -5
I think the inference that Russ didn't have much of an impact is based on the fact that he was involved in one phone call, and that's it. I would assume -- maybe incorrectly -- that you'd want his input at various points in the process.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 13:11:49 GMT -5
I think the inference that Russ didn't have much of an impact is based on the fact that he was involved in one phone call, and that's it. I would assume -- maybe incorrectly -- that you'd want his input at various points in the process. You would if you didn't elicit from Coach Rose in that initial call the relevant pieces of information that were needed during those subsequent steps in the process. I don't believe that was the case.
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Post by azvolleydad on Jan 12, 2022 13:18:33 GMT -5
I think the inference that Russ didn't have much of an impact is based on the fact that he was involved in one phone call, and that's it. I would assume -- maybe incorrectly -- that you'd want his input at various points in the process. You would if you didn't elicit from Coach Rose in that initial call the relevant pieces of information that were needed during those subsequent steps in the process. I don't believe that was the case. If he felt that he had sufficient input in the hiring process, he would have said so and not say that he had only participated in the initial call. Maybe they got all the info they felt they needed. He obviously doesn’t feel like he had that opportunity.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jan 12, 2022 13:27:15 GMT -5
Is it odd he mentioned Salima almost as much as KSC?
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Post by slxpress on Jan 12, 2022 14:11:39 GMT -5
Is it odd he mentioned Salima almost as much as KSC? Yes. He clearly put all his former players in the same basket. He was very insistent on that in the interview. He talks about it by comparing it to choosing a favorite child, but it’s not apples to apples. The child is Penn State volleyball. That’s the favorite. The coach is merely the custodian. And yet he’s placed KSC’s stewardship of Penn State volleyball on equal footing with all the others. There’s some kind of mental gymnastics going on there, but it’s not any of my business. Retiring after 43 years is a heck of a life change. Even more so when you’ve had the kind of unparalleled success he has. Whatever he needs to do to make the transition, more power to him. Realize too, we’re only getting a snapshot. Maybe he has a different perspective later in the off-season, or once the season begins. Maybe he doesn’t. Who knows?
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Post by vbnerd on Jan 12, 2022 14:22:06 GMT -5
What are your plans for retirement? “I think I’ll just take a little time off right now and watch from the sideline. Like I said, I’m not a fan of the transfer portal. NIL has some shaping to go through. I think I’ll take some time off, and if I get the itch to get back in, I’ll look for the coaches’ portal and find a job where I can be happy.”
So he could pull a Jim Calhoun and become a coach at a D3 somewhere? Or a PT assistant where he can golf in the morning, roll through practice in the afternoon and then smoke a cigar on his deck at night?
I kinda like that he left that as a possible epilogue to his career.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jan 12, 2022 14:29:37 GMT -5
Is it odd he mentioned Salima almost as much as KSC? Yes. He clearly put all his former players in the same basket. He was very insistent on that in the interview. He talks about it by comparing it to choosing a favorite child, but it’s not apples to apples. The child is Penn State volleyball. That’s the favorite. The coach is merely the custodian. And yet he’s placed KSC’s stewardship of Penn State volleyball on equal footing with all the others. There’s some kind of mental gymnastics going on there, but it’s not any of my business. Retiring after 43 years is a heck of a life change. Even more so when you’ve had the kind of unparalleled success he has. Whatever he needs to do to make the transition, more power to him. Realize too, we’re only getting a snapshot. Maybe he has a different perspective later in the off-season, or once the season begins. Maybe he doesn’t. Who knows? When questions about KSC as successor reference Salima, I think we get the sense that although the parent may say they don't have a favorite child, they definitely have a favorite child. Source: Was the actual favorite child (and grandchild)
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 12, 2022 14:43:56 GMT -5
What are your plans for retirement? “I think I’ll just take a little time off right now and watch from the sideline. Like I said, I’m not a fan of the transfer portal. NIL has some shaping to go through. I think I’ll take some time off, and if I get the itch to get back in, I’ll look for the coaches’ portal and find a job where I can be happy.”
So he could pull a Jim Calhoun and become a coach at a D3 somewhere? Or a PT assistant where he can golf in the morning, roll through practice in the afternoon and then smoke a cigar on his deck at night? I kinda like that he left that as a possible epilogue to his career. Jim Calhoun is a fairly good analogue for Rose. He built UConn from practically nothing into a powerhouse and won three titles between 1999 and 2011 (and really, the fourth title under Kevin Ollie in 2014 was with players that Calhoun had recruited). Now there are some differences. I don't think Calhoun is the best coach ever in his sport like Rose is in his, and I think Rose gets all the praise he deserves while Calhoun is actually somehow underrated in my view. But still.
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Post by volleyaudience on Jan 12, 2022 14:48:32 GMT -5
A very nice interview and a very good reflection of the man and the coach. He's always shied away from getting involved in conflict or choosing among his players. And he's always said his dream coaching job would probably be a DII or DIII job that allowed more golf.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jan 12, 2022 14:52:17 GMT -5
Yes. He clearly put all his former players in the same basket. He was very insistent on that in the interview. He talks about it by comparing it to choosing a favorite child, but it’s not apples to apples. The child is Penn State volleyball. That’s the favorite. The coach is merely the custodian. And yet he’s placed KSC’s stewardship of Penn State volleyball on equal footing with all the others. There’s some kind of mental gymnastics going on there, but it’s not any of my business. Retiring after 43 years is a heck of a life change. Even more so when you’ve had the kind of unparalleled success he has. Whatever he needs to do to make the transition, more power to him. Realize too, we’re only getting a snapshot. Maybe he has a different perspective later in the off-season, or once the season begins. Maybe he doesn’t. Who knows? When questions about KSC as successor reference Salima, I think we get the sense that although the parent may say they don't have a favorite child, they definitely have a favorite child. Source: Was the actual favorite child (and grandchild) I'll also just add that even though Russ may have always been direct and no BS, it's actually really poor messaging for the future of the Penn St. program to do this. I'm not sure him talking about Salima in his public "exit" interview is really inspiring faith and confidence in future PSU recruits. They really need the ex-head honcho to be hyping up the successor here, or at least not complimenting the people she's recruiting against.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 14:55:30 GMT -5
I cant really believe how he was just like yea no I’ve seen plenty of matches in rec hall when asked if he was gonna show up to the first game
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jan 12, 2022 15:00:12 GMT -5
I cant really believe how he was just like yea no I’ve seen plenty of matches in rec hall when asked if he was gonna show up to the first game Or at least say: "No, I want to step away to not divert attention and so KSC can really run the program." or something like that.
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 12, 2022 15:02:06 GMT -5
Yes. He clearly put all his former players in the same basket. He was very insistent on that in the interview. He talks about it by comparing it to choosing a favorite child, but it’s not apples to apples. The child is Penn State volleyball. That’s the favorite. The coach is merely the custodian. And yet he’s placed KSC’s stewardship of Penn State volleyball on equal footing with all the others. There’s some kind of mental gymnastics going on there, but it’s not any of my business. Retiring after 43 years is a heck of a life change. Even more so when you’ve had the kind of unparalleled success he has. Whatever he needs to do to make the transition, more power to him. Realize too, we’re only getting a snapshot. Maybe he has a different perspective later in the off-season, or once the season begins. Maybe he doesn’t. Who knows? When questions about KSC as successor reference Salima, I think we get the sense that although the parent may say they don't have a favorite child, they definitely have a favorite child. Source: Was the actual favorite child (and grandchild) Eh, I think this is a bit of a stretch. Salima may be the favorite child, but I wouldn't draw that conclusion just from this interview. He also mentioned Fawcett and Tupac and Detering too. Granted, he did mention Salima a couple more times, but it never felt like he was going out of his way to do so in my view. I think this is just the way he talks. He's not a communications professional, he's a coach, and a retired one at that.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 12, 2022 15:02:59 GMT -5
I cant really believe how he was just like yea no I’ve seen plenty of matches in rec hall when asked if he was gonna show up to the first game That’s more about not upstaging I’m sure, he would t want to be a distraction
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