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Post by oldnewbie on Jan 12, 2022 18:54:51 GMT -5
I seem to recall hearing/reading that Russ wasn't happy with the administration and support that WVB was being given. If so the COVID seasons, NIL, portal and admin issues could all be contributing factors. COVID has been a lot harder on college students than a lot of people want to admit. It was extra hard on athletes and a lot of administrations, athletic departments and coaches did not do everything they could have and should have to support a really hard time for athletes trying to train and play through a quarantine. I think the dirty little secret that nobody is talking much about is the large amount of depression and disaffection contributing to the transfer portal numbers this year and last year.
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Post by volleyaudience on Jan 12, 2022 19:03:38 GMT -5
I seem to recall hearing/reading that Russ wasn't happy with the administration and support that WVB was being given. If so the COVID seasons, NIL, portal and admin issues could all be contributing factors. I'd bet a fair amount of money no one ever heard Russ Rose say that our loud or even hint at it. I could be proven wrong if someone was on the room and heard that. But, he is pretty careful and he is pretty loyal. I know many have been speculating and theorizing. Part of that is probably wanting to blame someone for the past seven years besides Coach Rose or looking for a simple answer.
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Post by dc on Jan 12, 2022 19:20:00 GMT -5
I think COVID was pretty hard on coaches and administrators, too.
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Post by Wiswell on Jan 12, 2022 19:34:39 GMT -5
It was hard for students in general. Then pile on athletics. At WI, kids had to drool in a cup two times a week, check in by apps, etc. It was like a medium security prison.
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Post by oldnewbie on Jan 12, 2022 19:48:24 GMT -5
I think COVID was pretty hard on coaches and administrators, too. Correct, and because they had their own stresses, as they went home every night to their homes and families it was easy to lose sight of what their players (especially '20 and '21) were going through. Severe isolation while away from home for the first time at an age that should be the most social, while still stuck in communal living situation where you simultaneously can't socialize and are paranoid of surrounding students getting you sick and knocking you out of your season, while the campus is half closed so it takes forever just to get food on campus but it doesn't matter anyway because the coaches are practicing through dining hours for the few places that are even open so you are constantly half-starved, training, playing and traveling in masks and standing in line to get a q-tip shoved up your nose and into your brain 2-3 times a week all while losing their few perks like team rooms and training table to COVID protocols, then long quarantine sessions in even further isolation due to contact tracing. It's all worth it, though, to get to take all your classes online. It's been a dream for these kids. I brought it up because over the holidays I heard from a large number of frosh and sophs home for break, both athletes and non-athletes, that were trading stories of themselves and their friends of pervasive unhappiness and depression among them and their fellow students.
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Post by dc on Jan 12, 2022 20:12:22 GMT -5
Maybe they lost sight of what the kids were going through, maybe they didn’t. Maybe they had no idea what to do to help.
I certainly didn’t say it wasn’t tough on the kids.
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Post by willtravel2cwvb on Jan 12, 2022 20:20:02 GMT -5
Hard times for one group doesn't invalidate the hard times for another. Not a contest between classes of affected people. Been hard on everyone.
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Post by oldnewbie on Jan 12, 2022 20:30:43 GMT -5
Maybe they lost sight of what the kids were going through, maybe they didn’t. Maybe they had no idea what to do to help. I certainly didn’t say it wasn’t tough on the kids. I agree. I think that there were some coaches/departments/schools that understood the situation and handled it much better than others. I am sure it ran the gamut and don't doubt that most all had good intentions but that many didn't know what to do.
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Post by jagdpanther on Jan 12, 2022 21:22:23 GMT -5
We may not agree on a bunch of things, but that was a really good piece, nyline.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 22:03:16 GMT -5
We may not agree on a bunch of things, but that was a really good piece, nyline. Thanks, but all the credit goes to Ethan Kasales, who did the legwork, the research, the interview, and the mind-numbingly tedious job of transcribing it.
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Post by mediawatcher on Jan 12, 2022 22:09:17 GMT -5
I'm going to miss Russ Rose at Penn State. What a legacy he built. He was amazing and so good for building the game of volleyball. (I've never seen a coach as calm and composed during all those great games I saw with him at the Devaney.) Penn State was always a dangerous team to play. I don't see that changing.
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Post by dc155 on Jan 15, 2022 18:49:17 GMT -5
I don't personally know RR, but from what others have shared about him and from the many interviews that I've read/listened to, he doesn't seem like the type of person to put hidden/cryptic meaning into his words. He says what he wants to say (most of time bluntly), or he doesn't say it at all.
I think people are reading too much into this interview. Not everything is or needs to be a controversy.
I too will miss him, but also think it's good for PSU to have a new beginning of sorts. Good luck to both RR and KSC.
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Post by willtravel2cwvb on Jan 15, 2022 20:11:35 GMT -5
... (I've never seen a coach as calm and composed during all those great games I saw with him at the Devaney.) ... But all the camera operators...all...knew to watch for the eye roll! Lol. During which he'd have told us if he were asked, that he was blaming himself, not the players.
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Post by manatree on Jan 16, 2022 8:12:57 GMT -5
Seriously, just how much input and control do you think any former coach should have in selecting their replacement? Any long term coach will cast a long shadow over their replacement, any continual involvement in the hiring process would be unprofessional in my opinion.
As for the linked interview, people will interpret it to match their chosen view, be it straightforward, le Carré, tin foil, or otherwise.
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Post by reader on Jan 16, 2022 9:37:23 GMT -5
I think he could have influenced the shape of the candidate pool pretty directly, but once done there's no need to be involved because anyone would do.
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