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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2022 0:16:40 GMT -5
I also have a daughter in 17's that will be playing in several qualifiers, including Philly. For Philly, you can't dine in a restaurant without proof of vaccination, but you can get take out at restaurants. I'm not aware of the mask policy, but I'm guessing it will be mandatory for spectators and for players when they aren't on the floor. Although I guess they could possibly be required when they're playing, which is no different than USAV events last year (yes, at Lone Star too).
There are no vaccine requirements to keep you or your daughter from playing, staying in hotels, or eating food from the restaurant of your choice (though, yes, there is a restriction on where you can eat). I'm not exactly sure what makes this a "living hell" for unvaxxed players. Can you explain further?
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 30, 2022 0:19:36 GMT -5
This is a good way to put your girls at a significant college recruiting disadvantage. Having an unvaxed kid on a college roster is so difficult that if I knew ahead of time they were not going to get vacinated, I would not recruit them at all. My son has myocarditis from the COVID vaccine and we are getting a settlement. That all sounds well and good but his heart function will never be normal again. He will not be playing college basketball anymore. So my daughter is not getting the vaccine. We would just prefer like-minded people because our current club team has a surgeon and some other wiseacres that want to lecture us about the need to be vaccinated like they are some kind of authority on it. If we don't play club next year that's OK too. She's 6'1" and well known and heavily recruited so I'm sure we can get a waiver from somebody. How dare a surgeon act like he’s some sort of authority about health care or medicine. Next thing you know an auto mechanic will tell you how to deal with your transmission. People should stay in their lane. |
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Post by dodger on Jan 30, 2022 0:22:55 GMT -5
This is a good way to put your girls at a significant college recruiting disadvantage. Having an unvaxed kid on a college roster is so difficult that if I knew ahead of time they were not going to get vacinated, I would not recruit them at all. My son has myocarditis from the COVID vaccine and we are getting a settlement. That all sounds well and good but his heart function will never be normal again. He will not be playing college basketball anymore. So my daughter is not getting the vaccine. We would just prefer like-minded people because our current club team has a surgeon and some other wiseacres that want to lecture us about the need to be vaccinated like they are some kind of authority on it. If we don't play club next year that's OK too. She's 6'1" and well known and heavily recruited so I'm sure we can get a waiver from somebody. So scary for your son and family: but most research at present for young men with this diagnosis have had successful recovery and return to activity after treatment and then testing in the months following: as have many athletes who caught covid and contracted the same heart condition as your son! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Your aon has similar outcome! |
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Post by clob on Jan 30, 2022 0:23:54 GMT -5
Yo people. I hate to point this out but some people might not understand.
Consider this a Public Service Announcement.
Every message board attracts some trolls. Doesn't matter if the board cares about volleyball, knitting, the national spelling bee championship, or NCAA basketball.
The original post was an attempt to foster animosity by someone who had posted here twice.
Another poster (with two posts to their name) made up some story about her/his kid.
For everyone's sake, please ignore the trolls.
With that said, the fake accounts seem to be multiplying...
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Post by Hisbots on Jan 30, 2022 1:14:51 GMT -5
I figured the thread would deteriorate into what it has. I’m sympathetic to you. I really am. I’m heartbroken for your son. That’s a tough pill to swallow. At the same time, it’s simply impractical to think your daughter is going to play organized sports at the collegiate level without being vaccinated. You’re in a dream world if you think that’s going to happen. It’s okay to live in a dream world, but it’s a bummer you’re giving your daughter false expectations. This really isn’t true. There are plenty of universities that don’t require vaccination from students. universitybusiness.com/state-by-state-look-at-colleges-requiring-vaccines/Most NCAA teams have much more strict vaccination requirements in place than the general student population. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2022 2:33:31 GMT -5
Don't call me for sympathy when you're in intensive care begging for the vaccination so you don't die. Well Stevie boy I am vaxxed, hasn’t stopped COVID, the Polio vaccine did, poor analogy. no one ever said the vaccine stops transmission. there is no vaccine that does that. grasping at straws |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2022 2:34:25 GMT -5
This is a good way to put your girls at a significant college recruiting disadvantage. Having an unvaxed kid on a college roster is so difficult that if I knew ahead of time they were not going to get vacinated, I would not recruit them at all. My son has myocarditis from the COVID vaccine and we are getting a settlement. That all sounds well and good but his heart function will never be normal again. He will not be playing college basketball anymore. So my daughter is not getting the vaccine. We would just prefer like-minded people because our current club team has a surgeon and some other wiseacres that want to lecture us about the need to be vaccinated like they are some kind of authority on it. If we don't play club next year that's OK too. She's 6'1" and well known and heavily recruited so I'm sure we can get a waiver from somebody. lol quite the story. “I can’t be told what to do” what a mature stance |
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Post by bluepenquin on Jan 30, 2022 8:18:13 GMT -5
Well Stevie boy I am vaxxed, hasn’t stopped COVID, the Polio vaccine did, poor analogy. If we had the same percentage vaccinated for COVID that we did for polio, it would also stop. Well, we know this statement is false - 100% vaccination would not have stopped Covid (particularly Omicron). In addition - I am not sure that the % vaccinated for Polio was ever as high as it currently is for Covid in the US. Roughly 56% of the US population was vaccinated for Polio between 1962-65. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Jan 30, 2022 9:33:21 GMT -5
Don't call me for sympathy when you're in intensive care begging for the vaccination so you don't die. Well Stevie boy I am vaxxed, hasn’t stopped COVID, the Polio vaccine did, poor analogy. Polio spiked in 52 and 53. Compare those 2 years to less than 2 years of covid: Covid has had 800 times more cases and 200 times more deaths. Not 200 percent more deaths, 200 TIMES more deaths in the USA. The polio vaccine took 24 years to eliminate a virus that didn't dramatically mutate. I'd argue the urgency is just a tad higher right now to keep up with Covid. Antivaxxers are dramatically increasing mutations by allowing the virus to iterate through large pools of the unvaccinated. |
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Post by BuckysHeat on Jan 30, 2022 10:12:59 GMT -5
Well Stevie boy I am vaxxed, hasn’t stopped COVID, the Polio vaccine did, poor analogy. Polio spiked in 52 and 53. Compare those 2 years to less than 2 years of covid: Covid has had 800 times more cases and 200 times more deaths. Not 200 percent more deaths, 200 TIMES more deaths in the USA. The polio vaccine took 24 years to eliminate a virus that didn't dramatically mutate. I'd argue the urgency is just a tad higher right now to keep up with Covid. Antivaxxers are dramatically increasing mutations by allowing the virus to iterate through large pools of the unvaccinated. Polio also had no effect on 75% of people who got it, nearly 25% had mild symptoms (fever). 0.5% (1 in 200) ended up with paralysis or death. In 1949, there were 35,000 people in the US who were crippled or killed by poliovirus. You do the math on how many people had to be exposed to get that number. (Hint, it is not a small number). in 1952, there were 25,000 killed or crippled. By this time, polio was mostly affecting children ages 5-15 unlike covid which typically only affects the old or already sick (fat, lung disease, heart disease). Do not dismiss or diminish the effects polio had. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Jan 30, 2022 10:36:14 GMT -5
Polio spiked in 52 and 53. Compare those 2 years to less than 2 years of covid: Covid has had 800 times more cases and 200 times more deaths. Not 200 percent more deaths, 200 TIMES more deaths in the USA. The polio vaccine took 24 years to eliminate a virus that didn't dramatically mutate. I'd argue the urgency is just a tad higher right now to keep up with Covid. Antivaxxers are dramatically increasing mutations by allowing the virus to iterate through large pools of the unvaccinated. Polio also had no effect on 75% of people who got it, nearly 25% had mild symptoms (fever). 0.5% (1 in 200) ended up with paralysis or death. In 1949, there were 35,000 people in the US who were crippled or killed by poliovirus. You do the math on how many people had to be exposed to get that number. (Hint, it is not a small number). in 1952, there were 25,000 killed or crippled. By this time, polio was mostly affecting children ages 5-15 unlike covid which typically only affects the old or already sick (fat, lung disease, heart disease). Do not dismiss or diminish the effects polio had. I'm in no way diminishing the effects of polio, I'm just astounded and mortified by those diminishing Covid-19. You cited back the same numbers I gave, but combined "killed or crippled". Polio morbidity is not high and the rate of crippling was not particularly high, but was dramatic and it freaked out parents. The wealthy were hit pretty hard, so, big surprise, it was given a lot of attention. The numbers for Covid completely overwhelm polio in every single way, yet I continually see polio used to minimize Covid. I don't get it. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Jan 30, 2022 10:37:08 GMT -5
Well Stevie boy I am vaxxed, hasn’t stopped COVID, the Polio vaccine did, poor analogy. Covid is also currently running through large pools of the vaccinated. I don't think there was any chance of stopping mutations before a vaccination came to the public. |
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Post by azvb on Jan 30, 2022 11:12:21 GMT -5
Polio spiked in 52 and 53. Compare those 2 years to less than 2 years of covid: Covid has had 800 times more cases and 200 times more deaths. Not 200 percent more deaths, 200 TIMES more deaths in the USA. The polio vaccine took 24 years to eliminate a virus that didn't dramatically mutate. I'd argue the urgency is just a tad higher right now to keep up with Covid. Antivaxxers are dramatically increasing mutations by allowing the virus to iterate through large pools of the unvaccinated. Polio also had no effect on 75% of people who got it, nearly 25% had mild symptoms (fever). 0.5% (1 in 200) ended up with paralysis or death. In 1949, there were 35,000 people in the US who were crippled or killed by poliovirus. You do the math on how many people had to be exposed to get that number. (Hint, it is not a small number). in 1952, there were 25,000 killed or crippled. By this time, polio was mostly affecting children ages 5-15 unlike covid which typically only affects the old or already sick (fat, lung disease, heart disease). Do not dismiss or diminish the effects polio had. Please don’t diminish COVID to the old, already sick population. My husband was not old, fat, sick. It’s very hurtful when people say his death was too small of a percentage to get worked up about. |
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Post by mervynpumpkinhead on Jan 30, 2022 11:45:14 GMT -5
Antivaxxers are dramatically increasing mutations by allowing the virus to iterate through large pools of the unvaccinated. Covid is also currently running through large pools of the vaccinated. I don't think there was any chance of stopping mutations before a vaccination came to the public. “Running” at a much smaller percentage than those without the vaccine. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Jan 30, 2022 11:52:34 GMT -5
Antivaxxers are dramatically increasing mutations by allowing the virus to iterate through large pools of the unvaccinated. Covid is also currently running through large pools of the vaccinated. I don't think there was any chance of stopping mutations before a vaccination came to the public. If your argument is that the US is too blindly polarized and that about 30% of the population is too selfish and self-centered (I'll refrain from saying what I really think of them) to act for the greater good and that without that 30% any attempt to control the virus through modified behavior (social distance, hand washing, masks, no large gathering) was doomed to fail, then I completely agree. I thought better of Americans. You didn't. You were right. As for Covid running through pools of the vaccinated, that is a huge stretch. It is largely running through the unvaccinated, but the vaccinated are continuously exposed by those idiots when and where they should not be, so yes, there is some reinfection. That reinfection is at hugely reduced levels and at hugely reduced severity in the vaccinated population. If everyone was vaccinated, Covid would re-infect too slowly to sustain itself and it would die out. Will it flare up from around the world? Yes. Will the mutations be fewer and further in between if we get this vaccine out to the world? Yes. |
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