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Post by akinradeheaux on Feb 5, 2023 16:03:39 GMT -5
It can still happen, e.g. 2022 Mihajlovic. Yea but mihajlovic use to be better offensively if I’m not mistaken I'd say she became more of a balanced player. Her offense never quite recovered from its insane peak, but her passing developed out of necessity (no longer Popovic and Malesevic to fully hide her).
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Post by jiggs on Feb 5, 2023 16:04:56 GMT -5
Yea but mihajlovic use to be better offensively if I’m not mistaken what does that have to do with passing I’m referring to the gray situation. I mentioned her prime it’s really no use if you learn how to pass past your peak offensive years. You should be atleast a decent passer by time your like 27/28 to get atleast a couple years of your best possible play
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Post by jwvolley on Feb 5, 2023 16:06:12 GMT -5
Yea but mihajlovic use to be better offensively if I’m not mistaken what does that have to do with passing
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Post by akinradeheaux on Feb 5, 2023 16:11:29 GMT -5
what does that have to do with passing I’m referring to the gray situation. I mentioned her prime it’s really no use if you learn how to pass past your peak offensive years. You should be atleast a decent passer by time your like 27/28 to get atleast a couple years of your best possible play Yeah, that's a fair point. But part of why Mihajlovic learned to pass so late is because she never really needed to on the Serbian NT. In the Rio finals vs. China, she received all of 9 balls (out of her team's 85). In the semifinals, she took a whopping 3. In Gray's case, her NT career is fairly limited. Canada is never going to qualify to the Olympics via World Cup or related tournaments, so they'd need to beat the DR to qualify in the NORCECA regional qualifiers. Like Haak's, Gray's career prospects are focused on club season, which require her to be a better rounded player (e.g. because it's harder for clubs to shift their systems around pin hitters).
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Post by avid 2.0 on Feb 5, 2023 16:13:00 GMT -5
I’m referring to the gray situation. I mentioned her prime it’s really no use if you learn how to pass past your peak offensive years. You should be atleast a decent passer by time your like 27/28 to get atleast a couple years of your best possible play Yeah, that's a fair point. But part of why Mihajlovic learned to pass so late is because she never really needed to on the Serbian NT. In the Rio finals vs. China, she received all of 9 balls (out of her team's 85). In the semifinals, she took a whopping 3. In Gray's case, her NT career is fairly limited. Canada is never going to qualify to the Olympics via World Cup or related tournaments, so they'd need to beat the DR to qualify in the NORCECA regional qualifiers. Like Haak's, Gray's career prospects are focused on club season, which require her to be a better rounded player (e.g. because it's harder for clubs to shift their systems around pin hitters). I mean… they’re a solid VNL and IOQT from qualifying via ranking… I wouldn’t say it’s that far out for 2024
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Post by madden55 on Feb 5, 2023 16:15:31 GMT -5
Yeah, that's a fair point. But part of why Mihajlovic learned to pass so late is because she never really needed to on the Serbian NT. In the Rio finals vs. China, she received all of 9 balls (out of her team's 85). In the semifinals, she took a whopping 3. In Gray's case, her NT career is fairly limited. Canada is never going to qualify to the Olympics via World Cup or related tournaments, so they'd need to beat the DR to qualify in the NORCECA regional qualifiers. Like Haak's, Gray's career prospects are focused on club season, which require her to be a better rounded player (e.g. because it's harder for clubs to shift their systems around pin hitters). I mean… they’re a solid VNL and IOQT from qualifying via ranking… I wouldn’t say it’s that far out for 2024 plus I’m not sure I favor DR over Canada anymore with new KVR
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Post by akinradeheaux on Feb 5, 2023 16:16:39 GMT -5
Yeah, that's a fair point. But part of why Mihajlovic learned to pass so late is because she never really needed to on the Serbian NT. In the Rio finals vs. China, she received all of 9 balls (out of her team's 85). In the semifinals, she took a whopping 3. In Gray's case, her NT career is fairly limited. Canada is never going to qualify to the Olympics via World Cup or related tournaments, so they'd need to beat the DR to qualify in the NORCECA regional qualifiers. Like Haak's, Gray's career prospects are focused on club season, which require her to be a better rounded player (e.g. because it's harder for clubs to shift their systems around pin hitters). I mean… they’re a solid VNL and IOQT from qualifying via ranking… I wouldn’t say it’s that far out for 2024 Fine, but my point is that Gray's NT tenure ceiling is much lower than club. If her goal is to break new tournament ground with team Canada, then becoming a stellar all-around player is probably less important than if she wanted to just win titles period.
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Post by jiggs on Feb 5, 2023 16:18:42 GMT -5
I’m referring to the gray situation. I mentioned her prime it’s really no use if you learn how to pass past your peak offensive years. You should be atleast a decent passer by time your like 27/28 to get atleast a couple years of your best possible play Yeah, that's a fair point. But part of why Mihajlovic learned to pass so late is because she never really needed to on the Serbian NT. In the Rio finals vs. China, she received all of 9 balls (out of her team's 85). In the semifinals, she took a whopping 3. In Gray's case, her NT career is fairly limited. Canada is never going to qualify to the Olympics via World Cup or related tournaments, so they'd need to beat the DR to qualify in the NORCECA regional qualifiers. Like Haak's, Gray's career prospects are focused on club season, which require her to be a better rounded player (e.g. because it's harder for clubs to shift their systems around pin hitters). Thank you. I really like gray as a player but she is really doing herself a disservice, she is easily one of the best offensive outsides in the world on any given day but because of one hiccup she can’t even stay on the court to win with the best team in the world. I’d be dejected too if I was her and let’s say she magically learns to pass next year she would have maybe 1 or 2 years at this offensive level to try and get on a good team and contribute to winning club golds or carry Canada to a medal
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Post by pittsstan on Feb 5, 2023 16:21:45 GMT -5
I mean… they’re a solid VNL and IOQT from qualifying via ranking… I wouldn’t say it’s that far out for 2024 plus I’m not sure I favor DR over Canada anymore with new KVR Only if Brie King knows how to set... But tbh her set to KVR was not that horrible for the last VNL season
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Post by madden55 on Feb 5, 2023 16:24:50 GMT -5
plus I’m not sure I favor DR over Canada anymore with new KVR Only if Brie King knows how to set... But tbh her set to KVR was not that horrible for the last VNL season she’s better than Marte lol. Srry trojan
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Post by Reach on Feb 5, 2023 16:30:03 GMT -5
Wolosz is old and US has an embarrassment of riches at setter But None of them is as stable as Wolosz. Sorry but Wolosz doesn’t make Poland look this good. She’s good but she isn’t out of this world.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Feb 5, 2023 16:33:03 GMT -5
Bergamo 3-2 Cuneo Khalia 18, Butigan 13, Lorrayna 13 | Kuznetsova 23, Gicquel 22, Szakmary 18, Stevenson 10
Firenze 3-0 Macerata Herbots 16, Nwakalor 15, Alhassan 7 (1.5 sets played) | Okenwa 9, Chaussee 7, Abbott 6
Conegliano 3-2 Chieri Haak 30, Squarcini 17, Kelsey 11, Gray 9 | Villani 18, Groblena 17, Cazaute 14
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Post by give me the og-ball-u on Feb 5, 2023 16:37:34 GMT -5
can wolosz apply for u.s. citizenship please? Wolosz is old and US has an embarrassment of riches at setter wolosz is literally only two years older then hancock
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Post by bruinsgold on Feb 5, 2023 16:41:25 GMT -5
Bergamo 3-2 Cuneo Khalia 18, Butigan 13, Lorrayna 13 | Kuznetsova 23, Gicquel 22, Szakmary 18, Stevenson 10 Firenze 3-0 Macerata Herbots 16, Nwakalor 15, Alhassan 7 (1.5 sets played) | Okenwa 9, Chaussee 7, Abbott 6 Conegliano 3-2 Chieri Haak 30, Squarcini 17, Kelsey 11, Gray 9 | Villani 18, Groblena 17, Cazaute 14 Only 16 kills for Herbots in 3 sets?? She's falling off. Getting old. Time to retire.
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Post by jiggs on Feb 5, 2023 16:43:43 GMT -5
Bergamo 3-2 Cuneo Khalia 18, Butigan 13, Lorrayna 13 | Kuznetsova 23, Gicquel 22, Szakmary 18, Stevenson 10 Firenze 3-0 Macerata Herbots 16, Nwakalor 15, Alhassan 7 (1.5 sets played) | Okenwa 9, Chaussee 7, Abbott 6 Conegliano 3-2 Chieri Haak 30, Squarcini 17, Kelsey 11, Gray 9 | Villani 18, Groblena 17, Cazaute 14 Only 16 kills for Herbots in 3 sets?? She's falling off. Getting old. Time to retire. No she had 12 kills on 36 swings lmao
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