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Post by dunninla3 on May 6, 2022 17:40:49 GMT -5
TKN with the straight set loss. Kloth not siding out well enough (she got about 95% of the serves) and neither of them doing anything to create pressure from the service line. I'll agree with that. To me the four deciding factors were: 1) Cannon acing Kloth at least 4 times 2) kloth not breaking out the killer serve she used in Atlanta last year. 3) kloth having a shaky serve receive 4) Nuss, trying to make up for Kloth, taking too many risks (which I don't disagree with, she had to roll those dice) that didn't pay off. |
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Post by dunninla3 on May 6, 2022 18:07:16 GMT -5
Might be an early hot take, but Sander needs to ditch Crabb and the blocking, from the little bit of watching he seems to have a way higher beach ceiling where as Crabb looks to have peaked. Not sure we are going to see Crabb get much better where we could see Sander be the best defender on tour real quick. Just too bad there really isn't any option. Benesh maybe but I wouldn't trust him on the FIVB. I'm sorry to agree with you. Most of the times I've watched Benesh play he is way, way too error prone, and I mean EVERY facet. Not sure you could reasonably expect different from a college Middle. If they had shown the skills at age 16, they would have played OH in college. No reason to assume lack of skills at 16 would miraculously become FIVB level skill ten years later. Phil at age 104 makes Benesh look pedestrian. I'd like to see Sander/Bourne. |
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Post by pelican on May 6, 2022 19:03:50 GMT -5
TKN with the straight set loss. Kloth not siding out well enough (she got about 95% of the serves) and neither of them doing anything to create pressure from the service line. do you just watch the match and make random comments??? kloth hit .432 w/ 19kills vs nuss .100 w/ 7 kills. in the second set nuss hit .000 on 12 attempts vs kloth hitting .318 hate when people just spit out random inaccurate comments Of course Kloth had a better percentage and more kills. She was getting the vast majority of the serves. My point is that TKN had too much trouble siding out immediately (and credit to Sponcil for making a lot of nice digs). If you aren't siding out immediately a large percentage of the time, you're not going to win. |
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Post by ajm on May 6, 2022 19:05:08 GMT -5
They already won 21-8, 21-14. Sets up the reunion against Sponcil at 3:30 tomorrow. Claes will be spicy for that one I’m expecting a million YouTube comments asking why Slaes broke up. |
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Post by butteryhands on May 6, 2022 19:14:29 GMT -5
Claes will be spicy for that one I’m expecting a million YouTube comments asking why Slaes broke up. Ha! When I was watching stadium court earlier today there was a count of 731 viewers. |
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Post by dunninla3 on May 6, 2022 19:31:14 GMT -5
I'll agree with that. To me the four deciding factors were: 1) Cannon acing Kloth at least 4 times 2) kloth not breaking out the killer serve she used in Atlanta last year. 3) kloth having a shaky serve receive 4) Nuss, trying to make up for Kloth, taking too many risks (which I don't disagree with, she had to roll those dice) that didn't pay off. Sure, I agree with that. I've never seen kloth play like that ever, LSU, AVP, or FIVB. Strange. |
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Post by volleyman80 on May 6, 2022 19:39:44 GMT -5
I would argue she looked better than Kloth Sure, I agree with that. I've never seen kloth play like that ever, LSU, AVP, or FIVB. Strange. Exactly, because no teams had film to game plan. I have been saying this for the past 6 months & have not been drinking the Kool-Aid like other members... They are good, but I want to see how they adjust as teams start to pick apart their weaknesses - like Sponcil/Cannon exploited today. |
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Post by crawdaddy on May 6, 2022 21:08:34 GMT -5
Just too bad there really isn't any option. Benesh maybe but I wouldn't trust him on the FIVB. I'm sorry to agree with you. Most of the times I've watched Benesh play he is way, way too error prone, and I mean EVERY facet. Not sure you could reasonably expect different from a college Middle. If they had shown the skills at age 16, they would have played OH in college. No reason to assume lack of skills at 16 would miraculously become FIVB level skill ten years later. Phil at age 104 makes Benesh look pedestrian. I'd like to see Sander/Bourne. Sander will sign an indoor contract next year and be hitting outside for the U.S. in Paris. |
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Post by dunninla3 on May 6, 2022 21:11:04 GMT -5
I'm sorry to agree with you. Most of the times I've watched Benesh play he is way, way too error prone, and I mean EVERY facet. Not sure you could reasonably expect different from a college Middle. If they had shown the skills at age 16, they would have played OH in college. No reason to assume lack of skills at 16 would miraculously become FIVB level skill ten years later. Phil at age 104 makes Benesh look pedestrian. I'd like to see Sander/Bourne. Sander will sign an indoor contract next year and be hitting outside for the U.S. in Paris. well, makes sense. He's using Beach then to take the load off his ankles. knees, hips for a year; |
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Post by crawdaddy on May 6, 2022 21:12:03 GMT -5
Sander will sign an indoor contract next year and be hitting outside for the U.S. in Paris. well, makes sense. He's using Beach then to take the load off his ankles. knees, hips for a year; Exactly. Nice physical and mental break while staying in shape. |
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Post by kc8413 on May 6, 2022 21:24:24 GMT -5
I'm sorry to agree with you. Most of the times I've watched Benesh play he is way, way too error prone, and I mean EVERY facet. Not sure you could reasonably expect different from a college Middle. If they had shown the skills at age 16, they would have played OH in college. No reason to assume lack of skills at 16 would miraculously become FIVB level skill ten years later. Phil at age 104 makes Benesh look pedestrian. I'd like to see Sander/Bourne. Sander will sign an indoor contract next year and be hitting outside for the U.S. in Paris. Yea why forgo the opportunity to compete.. Doesn't seem like Crabb/Sanders would be able to get far against international competition... |
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Post by tamz on May 6, 2022 21:43:38 GMT -5
I'm sorry to agree with you. Most of the times I've watched Benesh play he is way, way too error prone, and I mean EVERY facet. Not sure you could reasonably expect different from a college Middle. If they had shown the skills at age 16, they would have played OH in college. No reason to assume lack of skills at 16 would miraculously become FIVB level skill ten years later. Phil at age 104 makes Benesh look pedestrian. I'd like to see Sander/Bourne. Sander will sign an indoor contract next year and be hitting outside for the U.S. in Paris. LOL |
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Post by guest2 on May 6, 2022 21:52:34 GMT -5
If that is the case someone needs to get in his ear the same way people needed to get on TKN about splitting up to get points. This isn't indoor and based off what we just saw he is not a good blocker when it comes to anyone bigger than him which will not go over well internationally. He will obviously be a monster offensively, but oh buddy is that block garbage in terms of legitimate competition. Yea I just don't buy it, I mean points with who Benesh? Benesh isn't even a top 30 legit big in the world. I think the Taylors are trying to play a game Internationally that's similar to Crabb and Bourne. Bourne isn't a top 10 (maybe even top 15) blocker and they have gotten some results. Taylor's may never have INternational results. but they can break up and Taylor can play defense and grab AMerca's best available big and I still think he slips off into irrelevance along with the rest of the US teams outside Crabb and Bourne. Crabb/Bourne have gotten results? One 3rd in a depleted field event in 3 years? |
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Post by guest2 on May 6, 2022 23:02:25 GMT -5
Got up this morning excited to see this match. Then I saw it wasn't on Youtube. Does anyone in a decision making capacity understand volleyball. You have: 1. Best US team versus an all time legend in the sport. 2. Best young US team versus struggling star who needs a win to preserve her partnership 3. Guaranteed blowout (thats what Canada v Delaney/Salgado is, just a horrible matchup for Delaney) Which match is on center court? Which match is on the stream? Thats right, the guaranteed blowout. pelican thanks for posting this, AVP get your act together, this is not that difficult Also Sponcil's seeming commitment to this lefty on two shot probably indicates this team needs a better coach |
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Post by haze on May 6, 2022 23:03:17 GMT -5
Yea I just don't buy it, I mean points with who Benesh? Benesh isn't even a top 30 legit big in the world. I think the Taylors are trying to play a game Internationally that's similar to Crabb and Bourne. Bourne isn't a top 10 (maybe even top 15) blocker and they have gotten some results. Taylor's may never have INternational results. but they can break up and Taylor can play defense and grab AMerca's best available big and I still think he slips off into irrelevance along with the rest of the US teams outside Crabb and Bourne. Crabb/Bourne have gotten results? One 3rd in a depleted field event in 3 years? Results may be a subjective matter. They have absolutely got the results they need to qualify for the last Olympics if it wasn't for country quote, and considering the 2 teams ahead of them are no longer, I would expect them to have no problems qualifying for Paris. If we want to argue results as podium finishes in quality fields tournaments, then something like 90% of all the teams competing in FIVB don't have any results. Probably more. People need to keep the US teams in perspective. There aren't any good enough teams, or even possible makeup of teams, that can podium in a quality field. Those days have sailed. Bourne and Crabb, and Taylor Crabb, are the only players that have competed at a high enough level to prove that they can play, and that's even considering they have the right partner. Chalk and Brunner look to be the 2nd best US team right now Internationally, and the thought of that team even coming close to podiuming in a quality field is absolutely laughable. |
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