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Oct 23, 2022 10:18:21 GMT -5
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Post by XAsstCoach on Oct 23, 2022 10:18:21 GMT -5
Praying for the Yankees to be swept so this head scratching season can be put to rest 🤣
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Post by XAsstCoach on Oct 23, 2022 23:20:12 GMT -5
Yankees got swept and so, we’re done. Aaron Boone may be on the hot seat for failing to win a WS and the team’s collapse in the second half of the season. Let’s see if Judge gets the contract he wants from the Yankees.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 24, 2022 5:21:12 GMT -5
Yankees got swept and so, we’re done. Aaron Boone may be on the hot seat for failing to win a WS and the team’s collapse in the second half of the season. Let’s see if Judge gets the contract he wants from the Yankees. Maybe he'll give the Yankees a chance to match whatever other offers he gets, but usually when players can't reach a deal and then go out and have a great last season, they aren't all that keen on coming back to the team that didn't want them until they proved themselves. Anyway, he's 30 (usually right around a career peak) and he's been often-injured. I think there are teams that might bid high for him because they need a player like him to build around, but I would guess the Yankees actually don't need him enough to pay him. Whoever pays him, it's going to be a roll of the dice. Maybe he hits 40-50 HRs for 3-4 years, has an injury year mixed in, and tails off. If so, you probably got your money's worth on, say, a 6-year contract. But let's say he gets injured more and more, never gets above 30 HR again, and at the end of the deal you have to trade away prospects in order to get somebody else to eat the last years of his contract. That could happen too. What he's got going for him is that he's been averaging 50 HR every year he hasn't been injured. What he's got going against him is that he's been injured half his career. Overall his average is about 30 HR year. Which is still really great for a player you aren't spending ultra-elite money on, but is maybe not so good for one that you are.
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Post by ironhammer on Oct 24, 2022 5:38:21 GMT -5
Phillies vs Astros, who do you want to win?
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 24, 2022 5:42:27 GMT -5
Oh and by the way, Baseball Reference has an interesting tool for adjusting salaries for inflation. It shows that, even inflation-adjusted, Judge made more money this past year than Babe Ruth did his entire career.
Ruth was famously bought from the Red Sox for $100,000 cash -- but the Yankees only paid *him* $10,000. Goes to show how a captive labor force (like baseball before free agency) gets underpaid relative to their actual value.
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 24, 2022 7:30:08 GMT -5
Yankees got swept and so, we’re done. Aaron Boone may be on the hot seat for failing to win a WS and the team’s collapse in the second half of the season. Let’s see if Judge gets the contract he wants from the Yankees. Maybe he'll give the Yankees a chance to match whatever other offers he gets, but usually when players can't reach a deal and then go out and have a great last season, they aren't all that keen on coming back to the team that didn't want them until they proved themselves. Anyway, he's 30 (usually right around a career peak) and he's been often-injured. I think there are teams that might bid high for him because they need a player like him to build around, but I would guess the Yankees actually don't need him enough to pay him. Whoever pays him, it's going to be a roll of the dice. Maybe he hits 40-50 HRs for 3-4 years, has an injury year mixed in, and tails off. If so, you probably got your money's worth on, say, a 6-year contract. But let's say he gets injured more and more, never gets above 30 HR again, and at the end of the deal you have to trade away prospects in order to get somebody else to eat the last years of his contract. That could happen too. What he's got going for him is that he's been averaging 50 HR every year he hasn't been injured. What he's got going against him is that he's been injured half his career. Overall his average is about 30 HR year. Which is still really great for a player you aren't spending ultra-elite money on, but is maybe not so good for one that you are. I have typically viewed 27 has the 'peak' year for a baseball player. 26-28 being the peak 3 seasons. Except the steroid era - Bonds peak defied any normal age regression. The Yankees did offer him $213.5M for 7 seasons that Judge turned down. I would consider that contract as 'good faith' - and Judge took a risk and bet on himself (and will get paid). I haven't been following - but if I had to guess - I think he is signing with the Yankees. Giving a guy on the wrong side of 30 a 10 year contract (I assume that is what he will get) is certainly going to be a bad contract at some point. The Yankees can afford to do this.
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Post by nowhereman on Oct 24, 2022 11:37:54 GMT -5
Phillies vs Astros, who do you want to win? Of course the Phillies. Having said that I'll pass on an Astros coronation.
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 24, 2022 14:29:37 GMT -5
Maybe he'll give the Yankees a chance to match whatever other offers he gets, but usually when players can't reach a deal and then go out and have a great last season, they aren't all that keen on coming back to the team that didn't want them until they proved themselves. Anyway, he's 30 (usually right around a career peak) and he's been often-injured. I think there are teams that might bid high for him because they need a player like him to build around, but I would guess the Yankees actually don't need him enough to pay him. Whoever pays him, it's going to be a roll of the dice. Maybe he hits 40-50 HRs for 3-4 years, has an injury year mixed in, and tails off. If so, you probably got your money's worth on, say, a 6-year contract. But let's say he gets injured more and more, never gets above 30 HR again, and at the end of the deal you have to trade away prospects in order to get somebody else to eat the last years of his contract. That could happen too. What he's got going for him is that he's been averaging 50 HR every year he hasn't been injured. What he's got going against him is that he's been injured half his career. Overall his average is about 30 HR year. Which is still really great for a player you aren't spending ultra-elite money on, but is maybe not so good for one that you are. I have typically viewed 27 has the 'peak' year for a baseball player. 26-28 being the peak 3 seasons. Except the steroid era - Bonds peak defied any normal age regression. The Yankees did offer him $213.5M for 7 seasons that Judge turned down. I would consider that contract as 'good faith' - and Judge took a risk and bet on himself (and will get paid). I haven't been following - but if I had to guess - I think he is signing with the Yankees. Giving a guy on the wrong side of 30 a 10 year contract (I assume that is what he will get) is certainly going to be a bad contract at some point. The Yankees can afford to do this. Yeah, Bonds peaked in his mid-to-late 30s. There isn't another hitter of his caliber that did that. Even all-time greats like Babe Ruth and Ted Williams who had monster years at similar ages had even better years when they were in the 20s. This is why I just can't give Bonds the GOAT nod.
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Oct 24, 2022 15:45:11 GMT -5
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Post by XAsstCoach on Oct 24, 2022 15:45:11 GMT -5
Yankees got swept and so, we’re done. Aaron Boone may be on the hot seat for failing to win a WS and the team’s collapse in the second half of the season. Let’s see if Judge gets the contract he wants from the Yankees. Maybe he'll give the Yankees a chance to match whatever other offers he gets, but usually when players can't reach a deal and then go out and have a great last season, they aren't all that keen on coming back to the team that didn't want them until they proved themselves. Anyway, he's 30 (usually right around a career peak) and he's been often-injured. I think there are teams that might bid high for him because they need a player like him to build around, but I would guess the Yankees actually don't need him enough to pay him. Whoever pays him, it's going to be a roll of the dice. Maybe he hits 40-50 HRs for 3-4 years, has an injury year mixed in, and tails off. If so, you probably got your money's worth on, say, a 6-year contract. But let's say he gets injured more and more, never gets above 30 HR again, and at the end of the deal you have to trade away prospects in order to get somebody else to eat the last years of his contract. That could happen too. What he's got going for him is that he's been averaging 50 HR every year he hasn't been injured. What he's got going against him is that he's been injured half his career. Overall his average is about 30 HR year. Which is still really great for a player you aren't spending ultra-elite money on, but is maybe not so good for one that you are. Given his history of injuries, it’s a miracle he has had no (major) injuries throughout his last season on his contract. Last thing the Yankees (or any other team for that matters) need is to be burdened with a large contract for someone who is sidelined for a long time. But his bat and cannon for an arm may be worth the risk.
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Oct 24, 2022 15:49:05 GMT -5
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Post by XAsstCoach on Oct 24, 2022 15:49:05 GMT -5
Phillies vs Astros, who do you want to win? Neither, but I’d like to see the Astros lose…literally hand the series to the Phillies. Any other AL team including BoSox and even the Mets I would cheer on, just don’t like the Astros one bit. 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2022 16:05:01 GMT -5
Phillies vs Astros, who do you want to win? Neither, but I’d like to see the Astros lose…literally hand the series to the Phillies. Any other AL team including BoSox and even the Mets I would cheer on, just don’t like the Astros one bit. 🤣 Yes but Dusty Baker is an okay guy. He's gotten better with every stop in terms of his managing and he has a reputation for integrity which is quite a bit different than the previous Astros administration. I'll still root for the Phillies though.
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Post by nowhereman on Oct 24, 2022 16:13:20 GMT -5
can we agree that the philly phanatic is the best mascot in baseball? sorry im grasping at straws to find something positive to say about the phillies because although i like em, i think they have zero chance.
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Oct 24, 2022 21:52:11 GMT -5
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Post by Mocha on Oct 24, 2022 21:52:11 GMT -5
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 25, 2022 8:57:19 GMT -5
The Astros go into the World Series without having lost a game in the postseason.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 25, 2022 8:58:59 GMT -5
The Astros go into the World Series without having lost a game in the postseason. They *should* have lost their very first one, but the Mariners blew it.
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