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Post by vbnerd on May 19, 2022 20:08:08 GMT -5
Isn't it the college coaches job to know if a kid can make an impact or not and project their role? Doesn't their job depend on it? Yes. It is also their job to make sure their 3-4 commits for 2023 have someone to practice against at that camp. The top 3-4 for 24, and then they need at least two deep beyond that but that might mean they invite 5 deep (or 10 deep depending on the program). But that doesn't mean you cannot change their mind. A few years ago a top 25 program brought in 2 setters and said they'd offer one at the end of camp. The offer went to a 3rd setter who came in, and outplayed them both. This can and does happen. If one of the schools is of particular interest, take the shot, no matter how big. If it's 3-4 schools that you cannot distinguish at this point, don't try to do all four, pick one, but understand that the schools you don't go to may take that as a sign that you are not interested and rank someone else above you.
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Post by lotstodo2023 on May 20, 2022 7:57:15 GMT -5
Isn't it the college coaches job to know if a kid can make an impact or not and project their role? Doesn't their job depend on it? Yes. It is also their job to make sure their 3-4 commits for 2023 have someone to practice against at that camp. The top 3-4 for 24, and then they need at least two deep beyond that but that might mean they invite 5 deep (or 10 deep depending on the program). But that doesn't mean you cannot change their mind. A few years ago a top 25 program brought in 2 setters and said they'd offer one at the end of camp. The offer went to a 3rd setter who came in, and outplayed them both. This can and does happen. If one of the schools is of particular interest, take the shot, no matter how big. If it's 3-4 schools that you cannot distinguish at this point, don't try to do all four, pick one, but understand that the schools you don't go to may take that as a sign that you are not interested and rank someone else above you. I think I know this story. Didn't said setter that won out enter the transfer portal after this season? I also think one of the 3 setters already had an offer and it was taken away at the camp and gave to the 3rd setter.
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Post by vbnerd on May 20, 2022 8:52:28 GMT -5
Yes. It is also their job to make sure their 3-4 commits for 2023 have someone to practice against at that camp. The top 3-4 for 24, and then they need at least two deep beyond that but that might mean they invite 5 deep (or 10 deep depending on the program). But that doesn't mean you cannot change their mind. A few years ago a top 25 program brought in 2 setters and said they'd offer one at the end of camp. The offer went to a 3rd setter who came in, and outplayed them both. This can and does happen. If one of the schools is of particular interest, take the shot, no matter how big. If it's 3-4 schools that you cannot distinguish at this point, don't try to do all four, pick one, but understand that the schools you don't go to may take that as a sign that you are not interested and rank someone else above you. I think I know this story. Didn't said setter that won out enter the transfer portal after this season? I also think one of the 3 setters already had an offer and it was taken away at the camp and gave to the 3rd setter. It's not that unique a story. Happens every year at one school or another. This (and piles of money) are why they have volleyball camps.
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Post by veebznerd on May 20, 2022 15:13:11 GMT -5
Keep in mind that college coaches are really just salesmen when it comes to recruiting. They're going to do everything they can to land recruits. How many kids have been promised the moon during recruiting and then been relegated to the bench when someone brighter and shinier came along? Do the coaches she's talking to have a history of developing players, or bringing in what's hot and then replacing them if they don't produce immediately? Having been through the D1 recruiting process multiple times, I've learned to be very wary of college coaches. That being said, there is no reason to limit your player's potential school choices based solely on two people's (her club coach and recruiting coordinator) opinions of her. But do consider who has the most to gain from being honest with you. Most importantly, what does she want from a school? Will she be happy at a big time school with little/no playing time? Or is she the kind of player that wants to be an impact player and if that means a smaller school so be it? Where will she be able to reach her academic goals? Most D1 schools limit your choices of majors. So if she has something specific in mind that she wants to do as a career, make sure it's an option at the schools she's looking at. Everything is so exciting during the recruitment process, good luck!
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Post by 1stTouch on May 20, 2022 16:30:29 GMT -5
Keep in mind that college coaches are really just salesmen when it comes to recruiting. They're going to do everything they can to land recruits. How many kids have been promised the moon during recruiting and then been relegated to the bench when someone brighter and shinier came along? Do the coaches she's talking to have a history of developing players, or bringing in what's hot and then replacing them if they don't produce immediately? Having been through the D1 recruiting process multiple times, I've learned to be very wary of college coaches. That being said, there is no reason to limit your player's potential school choices based solely on two people's (her club coach and recruiting coordinator) opinions of her. But do consider who has the most to gain from being honest with you. Most importantly, what does she want from a school? Will she be happy at a big time school with little/no playing time? Or is she the kind of player that wants to be an impact player and if that means a smaller school so be it? Where will she be able to reach her academic goals? Most D1 schools limit your choices of majors. So if she has something specific in mind that she wants to do as a career, make sure it's an option at the schools she's looking at. Everything is so exciting during the recruitment process, good luck! Great point! Coaches have to keep their jobs so sometimes tend to over promise. How would a PSA go about finding out if a coach is good at developing players? Does the transfer portal (ie. how many players transfer out) give a good indication? Then it all come back to who you can trust. Club directors benefit from their players going to more well-know schools which will help with their marketing. College coaches will promise many things to get a top recruit. Talking to the existing players (not in front of the coaches) will tell you a lot. Also, focusing on the school is the best bet, ask your PSA if she would attend the school if not for volleyball. Be open to DIII schools especially if your PSA wants to focus on more academics.
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