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Post by notpriddy (COIF) on May 21, 2022 6:46:43 GMT -5
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on May 21, 2022 9:48:32 GMT -5
That was a pretty good guide. The only point I had a small issue with was this one...
Lastly, remind them that they have more time than they think. There is an opportunity for everyone to play after high school, and there are some phenomenal places and programs at all levels. Patience!
While that is true to a certain degree, it's also important to know what the timeframe is that the coach is looking at.
I knew of a girl last year who thought she was in a good spot with a school, had received an offer, and thought she had time to make her decision.
She, soon after, saw that the school had gone with another girl for that position.
Don't make decisions out of panic but be as expedient with the process as you can.
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Post by n00b on May 21, 2022 12:36:46 GMT -5
That was a pretty good guide. The only point I had a small issue with was this one... Lastly, remind them that they have more time than they think. There is an opportunity for everyone to play after high school, and there are some phenomenal places and programs at all levels. Patience!While that is true to a certain degree, it's also important to know what the timeframe is that the coach is looking at. I knew of a girl last year who thought she was in a good spot with a school, had received an offer, and thought she had time to make her decision. She, soon after, saw that the school had gone with another girl for that position. Don't make decisions out of panic but be as expedient with the process as you can. Sounds like that coach is a (a) a terrible communicator or (b) dishonest and not somebody I’d want to play for anyway. |
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on May 21, 2022 15:55:53 GMT -5
That was a pretty good guide. The only point I had a small issue with was this one... Lastly, remind them that they have more time than they think. There is an opportunity for everyone to play after high school, and there are some phenomenal places and programs at all levels. Patience!While that is true to a certain degree, it's also important to know what the timeframe is that the coach is looking at. I knew of a girl last year who thought she was in a good spot with a school, had received an offer, and thought she had time to make her decision. She, soon after, saw that the school had gone with another girl for that position. Don't make decisions out of panic but be as expedient with the process as you can. Sounds like that coach is a (a) a terrible communicator or (b) dishonest and not somebody I’d want to play for anyway. It was a classic case of trying to make sure the position was filled by offering it to their number two while waiting to hear from their number one. Recruiting for the '22's was uncharted waters (as it is again this year). Definitely not saying that it was right. |
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Post by dodger on May 24, 2022 14:56:25 GMT -5
Sounds like that coach is a (a) a terrible communicator or (b) dishonest and not somebody I’d want to play for anyway. It was a classic case of trying to make sure the position was filled by offering it to their number two while waiting to hear from their number one. Recruiting for the '22's was uncharted waters (as it is again this year). Definitely not saying that it was right. She got recruited: presuming made visit etc etc and received an offer and did not say yes or no; but thought she had time to think about it: so a strong maybe was her answer. Are you presuming “classic case of offer second while waiting for one? Or did this happen? And how would you make this a reliable fact? |
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Post by 1stTouch on May 24, 2022 15:21:39 GMT -5
Maybe it is sports dependent. I have seen many football and baseball HS athletes post on their social media that they have offered a spot by XYZ school and how thankful they are to have the opportunity to play at the next level. This does not happen in WVB and PSA only post after they have given their verbal commit.
Is there a rule against posting that you have an WVB offer from a school or is it just not kosher to do so?
If PSA is posting about a true offer, it may prevent coaches from double offering for one spot?
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on May 24, 2022 15:30:23 GMT -5
It was a classic case of trying to make sure the position was filled by offering it to their number two while waiting to hear from their number one. Recruiting for the '22's was uncharted waters (as it is again this year). Definitely not saying that it was right. She got recruited: presuming made visit etc etc and received an offer and did not say yes or no; but thought she had time to think about it: so a strong maybe was her answer. Are you presuming “classic case of offer second while waiting for one? Or did this happen? And how would you make this a reliable fact? I'm not presuming, this happened. Not sure what you're asking here. Are you asking, "How do I prove this happened"? |
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on May 24, 2022 15:34:50 GMT -5
Maybe it is sports dependent. I have seen many football and baseball HS athletes post on their social media that they have offered a spot by XYZ school and how thankful they are to have the opportunity to play at the next level. This does not happen in WVB and PSA only post after they have given their verbal commit. Is there a rule against posting that you have an WVB offer from a school or is it just not kosher to do so? If PSA is posting about a true offer, it may prevent coaches from double offering for one spot? In the volleyball community, I think that's frowned on a little bit. I am seeing it happen here and there, however. |
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Post by dodger on May 24, 2022 19:04:08 GMT -5
Maybe it is sports dependent. I have seen many football and baseball HS athletes post on their social media that they have offered a spot by XYZ school and how thankful they are to have the opportunity to play at the next level. This does not happen in WVB and PSA only post after they have given their verbal commit. Is there a rule against posting that you have an WVB offer from a school or is it just not kosher to do so? If PSA is posting about a true offer, it may prevent coaches from double offering for one spot? No rule about what a PSA may post. School cant post till NLI signed. There are alot of differences between all of the college sports: when was last time i, you, friends saw an I committed to xyz by a track athlete?  |
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Post by dodger on May 24, 2022 19:06:39 GMT -5
She got recruited: presuming made visit etc etc and received an offer and did not say yes or no; but thought she had time to think about it: so a strong maybe was her answer. Are you presuming “classic case of offer second while waiting for one? Or did this happen? And how would you make this a reliable fact? I'm not presuming, this happened. Not sure what you're asking here. Are you asking, "How do I prove this happened"? Yes : how do you know this athlete was offered: and didnt respond and then another athlete accepted same position and that the girl offered who presumed had time to deside was the second choice? |
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on May 24, 2022 20:21:20 GMT -5
I'm not presuming, this happened. Not sure what you're asking here. Are you asking, "How do I prove this happened"? Yes : how do you know this athlete was offered: and didnt respond and then another athlete accepted same position and that the girl offered who presumed had time to deside was the second choice? My daughter talked to her at the National Training and Development camp in Anaheim last year. |
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Post by dodger on May 24, 2022 20:35:15 GMT -5
Talked to the athlete; so your account is athlete’s account of how situation transpired ! Per conversation with daughter and then related to you and then to us. What odds do you give that this is in fact an offer to a 2nd choice (daughters story) that would only be honored if school does not get there first choice? Meaning school offered same scholarship to 2 girls; and one girl thought she had time to decide but then discovered she lost offer. Versus second presumption: that when she hesitated to commit school got nervous and had to move to next on list and make offer so as not to lose out on their top options?
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on May 25, 2022 0:05:06 GMT -5
Talked to the athlete; so your account is athlete’s account of how situation transpired ! Per conversation with daughter and then related to you and then to us. What odds do you give that this is in fact an offer to a 2nd choice (daughters story) that would only be honored if school does not get there first choice? Meaning school offered same scholarship to 2 girls; and one girl thought she had time to decide but then discovered she lost offer. Versus second presumption: that when she hesitated to commit school got nervous and had to move to next on list and make offer so as not to lose out on their top options? Because that's not how it works (or at least not in our experience). My daughter received offers from schools where she was their first preferred choice. All of those schools gave her time to decide. One school, knowing that their second choice had to make some decisions, then asked our daughter to make her choice regarding them. Because she was their first choice they held out for as long as they could but there was no panic in their decision. Dodger, it's obvious that you do not want to believe my account and that's fine. I know it happened and how things went down in the account I relayed. Bottom line is, have clear cut communication with schools that are recruiting you. Don't be scared to ask pointed questions, so that you know exactly where you stand. |
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Post by vbjustice on May 25, 2022 11:51:19 GMT -5
AmeriCanvbdad is legit on this board. Has always been a reasonable VT poster.
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on May 25, 2022 11:54:15 GMT -5
AmeriCanvbdad is legit on this board. Has always been a reasonable VT poster. Thank you for that. I do admit I get out of hand on the other side of the board but I try to not let that bleed over to this side. |
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