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Post by HawaiiVB on Sept 8, 2022 22:43:39 GMT -5
So coach Wade did nothing wrong ? Right |
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Post by soljah808 on Sept 8, 2022 22:45:50 GMT -5
And everyone is after him. There have been a parade of coaches out to watch him lately. And Hawaii's Coach Charlie Wade illegally met with him in-person this summer at a tournament before the August 1st deadline. Many college coaches are not happy with the blatant move. Anything goes these days. Sounds like jealously to me. If it were a problem they would have reported him. And if he did it many times like you and these anonymous coaches said he does, they would have reported him then and now. But they didn't but they all talk s*** in their own little bubbles. Lmao Again....**sniff sniff** I smell s**t! |
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Post by soljah808 on Sept 8, 2022 22:49:08 GMT -5
So coach Wade did nothing wrong ? Right Yeah of course he didn't do anything wrong. But these anonymous coaches seem to have sticks up their okoles. Btw, if he did anything illegal, some of things anonymous coaches would be on him like white on rice and would have no issue reporting him to the NCAA. Why do we not hear about any of this but by anonymous message board folks on volleytalk? Because they don't like Charlie. Lmao It's hilarious. |
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Post by midwestvball1 on Sept 8, 2022 23:13:14 GMT -5
What's the August 1st deadline? I thought the 2024's were allows to talk to coaches after June 15th. OK, I found it. It looks like D1 is slightly different than D2 for in-person stuff. That also explains a comment I heard from a D1 coach at Boys Nationals this year. It also seems pretty silly that a D1 coach can communicate with the kid in every way possible on June 15th, but can't talk to them in person until Aug 1. www.ncsasports.org/ncaa-eligibility-center/recruiting-rulesAll other Division I sports NCAA recruiting rules - Any time: Athletes can receive non-recruiting materials from college coaches, such as questionnaires, camp brochures, nonathletic institutional publications and NCAA educational materials published by the NCAA.
- June 15 after sophomore year: Coaches can extend verbal scholarship offers, call athletes and send athletes all forms of private electronic correspondence, including text messages, instant messages, direct messages and emails, as well as all recruiting materials.
- August 1 before junior year: Athletes can begin taking official visits, and they can also arrange unofficial visits with a school’s athletic department and meet with the coach while on campus. Coaches can begin conducting off-campus contact with athletes at their residence or school.
When can Division II coaches contact athletes? The NCAA Recruiting Rules for Division II schools are slightly more relaxed than those for Division I, and the rules are the same across all sports: - Non-recruiting materials: Athletes can receive brochures for camps, questionnaires, NCAA materials and non-athletic recruiting publications at any time.
- Printed recruiting materials: Starting July 15 after an athlete’s sophomore year, coaches can begin sending recruits printed recruiting materials.
- Telephone calls: Starting June 15 after an athlete’s sophomore year, coaches can start calling athletes.
- Off-campus contact: Coaches can conduct off-campus communications with athletes and/or their parents starting June 15 after an athlete’s sophomore year.
- Unofficial visits: Athletes can take unofficial visits at any time.
- Official visits: Athletes may start taking official visits starting June 15 after an athlete’s sophomore year.
When can Division III coaches contact athletes? DIII schools have the most relaxed NCAA recruiting rules of all the division levels. Similar to NCAA DII, they are the same for all sports: - Recruiting materials: Athletes can receive recruiting materials at any time.
- Telephone calls: There is no limit on when college coaches can call athletes.
- Digital communications: There is no limit on when college coaches can contact athletes digitally.
- Off-campus contact: After the athlete’s sophomore year, college coaches may begin to conduct off-campus communications.
- Official visits: Athletes can begin taking official visits after January 1 of their junior year.
- Unofficial visits: Athletes can make an unlimited number of unofficial visits at any time.
I'll help the fellow Ohana understand. UH is a NCAA D1 institution, right?. This should be easy. They (UH) follow the NCAA D1 recruiting rules, right? There seams to be a trend here. I'll help you out. Both are Yes. Therefore, the coaching staff that is designated as recruiting staff can NOT have an in-person conversation with a 2024 athlete at a volleyball tournament before August 1st of this calendar year. Not much grey area here. You just can't have the conversation in-person as D2 and D3 can. Wow. That wasn't hard, now was it. The funny thing is that other coaches do it as well and skirt the rules. But when you win 2 NCAA Championships (well deserved I might add). You have to be smarter and realize that you now have all eyes watching you. Go Bows! |
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Post by koavball on Sept 9, 2022 0:10:30 GMT -5
Coach Wade wasn’t at that particular tournament to recruit as he was just there as a parent. The ncaa has zero rules about a father meeting with his son’s friends and their parents.
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Post by soljah808 on Sept 9, 2022 2:17:07 GMT -5
OK, I found it. It looks like D1 is slightly different than D2 for in-person stuff. That also explains a comment I heard from a D1 coach at Boys Nationals this year. It also seems pretty silly that a D1 coach can communicate with the kid in every way possible on June 15th, but can't talk to them in person until Aug 1. www.ncsasports.org/ncaa-eligibility-center/recruiting-rulesAll other Division I sports NCAA recruiting rules - Any time: Athletes can receive non-recruiting materials from college coaches, such as questionnaires, camp brochures, nonathletic institutional publications and NCAA educational materials published by the NCAA.
- June 15 after sophomore year: Coaches can extend verbal scholarship offers, call athletes and send athletes all forms of private electronic correspondence, including text messages, instant messages, direct messages and emails, as well as all recruiting materials.
- August 1 before junior year: Athletes can begin taking official visits, and they can also arrange unofficial visits with a school’s athletic department and meet with the coach while on campus. Coaches can begin conducting off-campus contact with athletes at their residence or school.
When can Division II coaches contact athletes? The NCAA Recruiting Rules for Division II schools are slightly more relaxed than those for Division I, and the rules are the same across all sports: - Non-recruiting materials: Athletes can receive brochures for camps, questionnaires, NCAA materials and non-athletic recruiting publications at any time.
- Printed recruiting materials: Starting July 15 after an athlete’s sophomore year, coaches can begin sending recruits printed recruiting materials.
- Telephone calls: Starting June 15 after an athlete’s sophomore year, coaches can start calling athletes.
- Off-campus contact: Coaches can conduct off-campus communications with athletes and/or their parents starting June 15 after an athlete’s sophomore year.
- Unofficial visits: Athletes can take unofficial visits at any time.
- Official visits: Athletes may start taking official visits starting June 15 after an athlete’s sophomore year.
When can Division III coaches contact athletes? DIII schools have the most relaxed NCAA recruiting rules of all the division levels. Similar to NCAA DII, they are the same for all sports: - Recruiting materials: Athletes can receive recruiting materials at any time.
- Telephone calls: There is no limit on when college coaches can call athletes.
- Digital communications: There is no limit on when college coaches can contact athletes digitally.
- Off-campus contact: After the athlete’s sophomore year, college coaches may begin to conduct off-campus communications.
- Official visits: Athletes can begin taking official visits after January 1 of their junior year.
- Unofficial visits: Athletes can make an unlimited number of unofficial visits at any time.
I'll help the fellow Ohana understand. UH is a NCAA D1 institution, right?. This should be easy. They (UH) follow the NCAA D1 recruiting rules, right? There seams to be a trend here. I'll help you out. Both are Yes. Therefore, the coaching staff that is designated as recruiting staff can NOT have an in-person conversation with a 2024 athlete at a volleyball tournament before August 1st of this calendar year. Not much grey area here. You just can't have the conversation in-person as D2 and D3 can. Wow. That wasn't hard, now was it. The funny thing is that other coaches do it as well and skirt the rules. But when you win 2 NCAA Championships (well deserved I might add). You have to be smarter and realize that you now have all eyes watching you. Go Bows! All eyes watching and yet not one of those eyes turned him in?? But they talk like some little gossiping girls amongst their inner circles? And he has done that for years you said? No one turned his butt in? Lmao now that's crazy. Btw, why do you talk to us as if we are stupid or something? Sounds condescending af. |
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Post by soljah808 on Sept 9, 2022 2:26:12 GMT -5
Btw, who are these other coaches you guys are aware about that apparently break rules but none of you guys have the balls to turn them in?
Spill the tea....
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Post by kb808 on Sept 9, 2022 3:44:43 GMT -5
Coach Wade wasn’t at that particular tournament to recruit as he was just there as a parent. The ncaa has zero rules about a father meeting with his son’s friends and their parents. Maybe this will make these jealous coaches 🤫.. |
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Post by jcvball22 on Sept 9, 2022 9:51:00 GMT -5
I'll help the fellow Ohana understand. UH is a NCAA D1 institution, right?. This should be easy. They (UH) follow the NCAA D1 recruiting rules, right? There seams to be a trend here. I'll help you out. Both are Yes. Therefore, the coaching staff that is designated as recruiting staff can NOT have an in-person conversation with a 2024 athlete at a volleyball tournament before August 1st of this calendar year. Not much grey area here. You just can't have the conversation in-person as D2 and D3 can. Wow. That wasn't hard, now was it. The funny thing is that other coaches do it as well and skirt the rules. But when you win 2 NCAA Championships (well deserved I might add). You have to be smarter and realize that you now have all eyes watching you. Go Bows! All eyes watching and yet not one of those eyes turned him in?? But they talk like some little gossiping girls amongst their inner circles? And he has done that for years you said? No one turned his butt in? Lmao now that's crazy. Btw, why do you talk to us as if we are stupid or something? Sounds condescending af. He was turned in. By multiple coaches. And, several of them spoke to him directly about it. You'd think, given Hawaii had a National Championship vacated because they couldn't follow rules, they wouldn't be quite so cavalier about it. |
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Post by gtrich on Sept 9, 2022 11:45:15 GMT -5
Coach Wade wasn’t at that particular tournament to recruit as he was just there as a parent. The ncaa has zero rules about a father meeting with his son’s friends and their parents. We played his sons 15 Outriggers team at Nationals a couple of years ago. He coached and I don't remember if it was Dimi or Rado that was also there in a sling as his assistant coach (they just had arm surgery). Needless to say, the kids on our team were star-struck and so was our coach. The star power alone was probably worth 4 or 5 points a match for their team. |
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Post by westcoastbias on Sept 9, 2022 11:53:36 GMT -5
Hawaii drama derails another thread on volleytalk, shocking stuff...
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Post by Logan Tom Fan on Sept 9, 2022 12:32:41 GMT -5
Coach Wade wasn’t at that particular tournament to recruit as he was just there as a parent. The ncaa has zero rules about a father meeting with his son’s friends and their parents. Now this makes it different since he's there as a father for his son, and not as a coach recruiting. If his son wasn't there, then that would seem odd to me. |
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Post by westcoastvolleyfreak on Sept 9, 2022 13:39:54 GMT -5
Coach Wade wasn’t at that particular tournament to recruit as he was just there as a parent. The ncaa has zero rules about a father meeting with his son’s friends and their parents. Now this makes it different since he's there as a father for his son, and not as a coach recruiting. If his son wasn't there, then that would seem odd to me. ehh i agree with your first sentence. however, the second part i don't. if it's the hawaii grass tourney that was hosted by OOS, i wouldn't find it odd to see him there. multiple former and current players that played for him participated in that tournament. so i wouldnt have found it odd to see him just going there to support his players. however, if it isn't the OOS grass tourney that i presume you guys are referring to, ill eat my words and agree with you on finding it odd. |
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Post by Logan Tom Fan on Sept 9, 2022 13:41:52 GMT -5
Now this makes it different since he's there as a father for his son, and not as a coach recruiting. If his son wasn't there, then that would seem odd to me. ehh i agree with your first sentence. however, the second part i don't. if it's the hawaii grass tourney that was hosted by OOS, i wouldn't find it odd to see him there. multiple former and current players that played for him participated in that tournament. so i wouldnt have found it odd to see him just going there to support his players. however, if it isn't the OOS grass tourney that i presume you guys are referring to, ill eat my words and agree with you on finding it odd. I agree, you got a good point there as well with the OOS grass tourney |
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Post by midwestvball1 on Sept 9, 2022 13:58:00 GMT -5
ehh i agree with your first sentence. however, the second part i don't. if it's the hawaii grass tourney that was hosted by OOS, i wouldn't find it odd to see him there. multiple former and current players that played for him participated in that tournament. so i wouldnt have found it odd to see him just going there to support his players. however, if it isn't the OOS grass tourney that i presume you guys are referring to, ill eat my words and agree with you on finding it odd. I agree, you got a good point there as well with the OOS grass tourney It was the SoCal Showcase in Anaheim, CA in June. |
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