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Post by volleyguy on Jun 28, 2022 13:04:17 GMT -5
That's not how it works. The Connecticut doctor would be charged in Oklahoma, then an arrest warrant would be issued, and/or an extradition would be requested (Connecticut would probably refuse). In the meantime, if that Connecticut doctor ever travelled to Oklahoma, he/she would be in jeopardy of being arrested and tried. An Oklahoma trial judge would decide whether or not the doctor would face trial, and while that decision is adjudicated, the doctor may or may not be released on bond. It isn't fantasy. This is pure fantasy. Conjured up by the activism/hysteria machine, to drum up fundraising.
This is exactly how the legal process works.
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Post by hbmb10k on Jun 28, 2022 13:04:34 GMT -5
Right wing side of the one party corporation that governs the USA needs a issue for their peasants to feel superior about. To believe they are more moral. But it' can't be an issue that threatens the elite's money!
Abortion is perfect for this!. You see it in this forum. The main right wing poster going on about "murder" of "babies". So important to him!
In fact he's willing to have the rich cheat on their taxes because the IRS is woefully underfunded, he's willing to have his roads and bridge crumble, public education go down the drain, underfund his Social Security,.....all so he can feel smug knowing he's so very moral!
They don't call it propaganda for nothing folks! Most voters don't have the cognitive ability to even vote (or not vote) in their own self interest.
If I was filthy rich I'd just be laughing my ass off about these peasants tripping over themselves trying to take each other's rights away as long as they don't stop me from gaming the system.
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 28, 2022 13:07:38 GMT -5
Absolute worst case (though there won't be any need for it to come to this): Connecticut comes up with a "waiver" or some kind of request form, such that anyone "deemed worthy of need" who signs the form is allowed to immediately be declared a resident of Connecticut. Sign the form. *poof* You're no long a resident of Oklahoma when the abortion is performed in Connecticut by a Conn. doc. Oklahoma literally has no grounds for any kind of charge. Talk about pure fantasy. Oklahoma has it own authority and mechanism to determine who is a resident (for example, to issue driver's licenses or determine eligibility for state tuition).
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Post by valleyvolley1 on Jun 28, 2022 13:09:03 GMT -5
Right wing side of the one party corporation that governs the USA needs a issue for their peasants to feel superior about. To believe they are more moral. But it' can't be an issue that threatens the elite's money! Abortion is perfect for this!. You see it in this forum. The main right wing poster going on about "murder" of "babies". So important to him! In fact he's willing to have the rich cheat on their taxes because the IRS is woefully underfunded, he's willing to have his roads and bridge crumble, public education go down the drain, underfund his Social Security,.....all so he can feel smug knowing he's so very moral! They don't call it propaganda for nothing folks! Most voters don't have the cognitive ability to even vote (or not vote) in their own self interest. congrats on the dopiest post of the week so far. you really nailed it. Let me guess, a moderately liberal that watches MSNBC?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 13:12:28 GMT -5
Absolute worst case (though there won't be any need for it to come to this): Connecticut comes up with a "waiver" or some kind of request form, such that anyone "deemed worthy of need" who signs the form is allowed to immediately be declared a resident of Connecticut. Sign the form. *poof* You're no long a resident of Oklahoma when the abortion is performed in Connecticut by a Conn. doc. Oklahoma literally has no grounds for any kind of charge. Talk about pure fantasy. Oklahoma has it own authority and mechanism to determine who is a resident (for example, to issue driver's licenses or determine eligibility for state tuition). Huh?
No state can prevent a resident from giving up their residency to become a resident of another state.
EDIT: unless perhaps they were charged with a crime beforehand. But since just physically leaving a state is not a crime, there is no possible path there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 13:13:21 GMT -5
This is pure fantasy. Conjured up by the activism/hysteria machine, to drum up fundraising.
This is exactly how the legal process works. Nope. You're just making up what you want to be true.
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Post by valleyvolley1 on Jun 28, 2022 13:46:43 GMT -5
Right wing side of the one party corporation that governs the USA needs a issue for their peasants to feel superior about. To believe they are more moral. But it' can't be an issue that threatens the elite's money! Abortion is perfect for this!. You see it in this forum. The main right wing poster going on about "murder" of "babies". So important to him! In fact he's willing to have the rich cheat on their taxes because the IRS is woefully underfunded, he's willing to have his roads and bridge crumble, public education go down the drain, underfund his Social Security,.....all so he can feel smug knowing he's so very moral! They don't call it propaganda for nothing folks! Most voters don't have the cognitive ability to even vote (or not vote) in their own self interest. congrats on the dopiest post of the week so far. you really nailed it. Let me guess, a moderately liberal that watches MSNBC? propaganda and underfunding social security? social security was way over funded but the leftist democrats screwed it up by pork barrel spending. Imagine an investment where over 16% over your lifetime wages went into an account and gained interest for the 45 years or you are working , it would be worth $millions and millions of dollars. But instead it is only worth a couple of hundred thousand dollars and many people who die early get nothing. That is stealing by your guys , but obviously you have zero cognitive ability. The democrats have screwed up public education in the most horrific ways and somehow it went down the drain? by who? The deomocrats want to teach all sorts of crap that does not make them better, just brainwashed. Again, Thw Communist Manifesto is the 3rd most assigned book in higher education. This book was written by a Satanist and has helped murder over 200 million people, but youi like that? After all, it was your guys that pushed it.
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Post by cindra on Jun 28, 2022 13:57:58 GMT -5
I agree, it's definitely less likely for a state to request extradition of someone with a warrant (which happens all the time) than for a state to make up some contrived mechanism for instant legal residency
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 14:04:05 GMT -5
state to request extradition of someone with a warrant On what grounds??
The state of Oklahoma cannot charge a Connecticut doctor for performing a legal procedure on a Conn. resident.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 14:05:21 GMT -5
But ... BUT! ... she was an Oklahoma resident before she legally became a Connecticut resident!!!11
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 14:17:51 GMT -5
I guess we should do away with every right not explicitly mentioned. I wonder if there's an amendment dealing with that very proposition? BuT It'S iN tHe CoNsTiTuTioN!!!!!!!111111@@@@
I see. So you were being dishonest when you said that. OK. Now that that's established, we can talk about what amendments say, imply, and/or are interpreted as.
Also, precedent is dead. So there's that.
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 28, 2022 15:05:41 GMT -5
state to request extradition of someone with a warrant On what grounds?? The state of Oklahoma cannot charge a Connecticut doctor for performing a legal procedure on a Conn. resident.
This is actually correct. I understood/assumed the scenario you were talking about was an Oklahoma resident who travelled to Connecticut for an abortion.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 28, 2022 16:00:31 GMT -5
On what grounds?? The state of Oklahoma cannot charge a Connecticut doctor for performing a legal procedure on a Conn. resident.
This is actually correct. I understood/assumed the scenario you were talking about was an Oklahoma resident who travelled to Connecticut for an abortion. So? If I (a Washington resident) travel to Idaho and buy something, Washington has no Fing say about it until I try to bring whatever I bought back into Washington. My sister takes her dogs to Idaho if they need surgery. Should WA law have anything to say about that?
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 28, 2022 16:02:36 GMT -5
Anyway, the "extradition" question is most certainly about the situation where (for example) an Oklahoma resident goes to Connecticut for an abortion and then Oklahoma tries to charge the Connecticut doctor with a crime on the justification that the patient was an Oklahoma resident.
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Post by cindra on Jun 28, 2022 16:16:57 GMT -5
I guess we should do away with every right not explicitly mentioned. I wonder if there's an amendment dealing with that very proposition? BuT It'S iN tHe CoNsTiTuTioN!!!!!!!111111@@@@
I see. So you were being dishonest when you said that. OK. Now that that's established, we can talk about what amendments say, imply, and/or are interpreted as.
Also, precedent is dead. So there's that.
OK bro
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