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Post by vballfan17 on Nov 12, 2022 15:54:38 GMT -5
Yes, we'll have to allow conference tournament games since there won't be as many regular-season matches to pick from. I just looked up the Conference USA, Sun Belt and WAC conference tournament schedules, but all of them say TBA. Are any conference tournament matches set? If so, what is/are the links for their schedules? Obviously they cannot be picked in the week 13 contest if they have not been specified and announced before the November 14, 6PM CT, correct? Correct. We’ll only be able to use conference matches that have been announced by Monday at 6pm CT. |
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Post by n00b on Nov 13, 2022 11:22:44 GMT -5
I just looked up the Conference USA, Sun Belt and WAC conference tournament schedules, but all of them say TBA. Are any conference tournament matches set? If so, what is/are the links for their schedules? Obviously they cannot be picked in the week 13 contest if they have not been specified and announced before the November 14, 6PM CT, correct? Correct. We’ll only be able to use conference matches that have been announced by Monday at 6pm CT. For conferences with byes, can we simply pick the winning team and the date, even if the opponent is TBD based on a previous match? For example, I think we should be able to pick Troy vs TBD on 11/18. Right? |
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Post by vballfan17 on Nov 13, 2022 12:06:46 GMT -5
Correct. We’ll only be able to use conference matches that have been announced by Monday at 6pm CT. For conferences with byes, can we simply pick the winning team and the date, even if the opponent is TBD based on a previous match? For example, I think we should be able to pick Troy vs TBD on 11/18. Right? Yes that is sufficient |
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Post by publius on Nov 13, 2022 15:03:33 GMT -5
L.O.L.
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Post by vballfan17 on Nov 13, 2022 15:32:49 GMT -5
Not sure what this is about, but if it’s for the TBD matches, here’s my thought - You’re still picking a winner. Since this year, we aren’t only selecting a team to lose once, whoever that winner plays seems irrelevant. You just take the gamble of the unknown opponent. If we change this next season, then we wouldn’t be able to select matches with byes unless all potential opponents haven’t been picked as losers before. Edit: if you’re referring to when I said only conference matches that have been set can be used, I was thinking about matches that say TBD v TBD. If the majority of people only want to allow conference matches that have the opponents listed out already, I’m ok with that too. gbuttah jaypak mnsports255 n00b publius - thoughts? |
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Post by n00b on Nov 13, 2022 15:49:38 GMT -5
Not sure what this is about, but if it’s for the TBD matches, here’s my thought - You’re still picking a winner. Since this year, we aren’t only selecting a team to lose once, whoever that winner plays seems irrelevant. You just take the gamble of the unknown opponent. If we change this next season, then we wouldn’t be able to select matches with byes unless all potential opponents haven’t been picked as losers before. Edit: if you’re referring to when I said only conference matches that have been set can be used, I was thinking about matches that say TBD v TBD. If the majority of people only want to allow conference matches that have the opponents listed out already, I’m ok with that too. gbuttah jaypak mnsports255 n00b publius - thoughts? I agree this makes the most sense. So we won't be able to use the opening round of the MAC or Missouri Valley tournaments (they have regular season matches Wednesday and their tourney starts Sunday). But when the goal is to pick winners, I don't see any reason to not be allowed to pick a winning team and the date that they're definitely playing. You obviously couldn't pick a team to win a match they may or may not play, but that's very different than simply not knowing the opponent yet. |
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Post by vballfan17 on Nov 13, 2022 15:54:32 GMT -5
BTW, I’m out as I picked Portland State over Eastern Washington
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Post by jaypak on Nov 13, 2022 16:50:49 GMT -5
But when the goal is to pick winners, I don't see any reason to not be allowed to pick a winning team and the date that they're definitely playing. You obviously couldn't pick a team to win a match they may or may not play, but that's very different than simply not knowing the opponent yet. Agree. As long as winner and date are specified, I would allow the pick. |
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Post by publius on Nov 13, 2022 17:45:34 GMT -5
vballfan17, sorry to see you are no longer in the running. I have never been a fan of letting the inmates decide how to run the prison. As previously mentioned, it's your contest, and you can make up new rules if and whenever you want. From day one, the cardinal rule has been "Every week, you pick [3] matchups between any two teams and choose the winner of each match." I don't recall it being allowable in early pre-conference tourneys to pick the named tourney host to win a match against the unnamed to-be-determined winner of a match to be played the day before. It really doesn't matter anyway since jaypak, n00b and I can simply skip entering weeks 13 and 14 and since we have no misses after 14 weeks we are automatically in the so-called tiebreaker, right?
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Post by vballfan17 on Nov 13, 2022 20:54:26 GMT -5
vballfan17 , sorry to see you are no longer in the running. I have never been a fan of letting the inmates decide how to run the prison. As previously mentioned, it's your contest, and you can make up new rules if and whenever you want. From day one, the cardinal rule has been "Every week, you pick [3] matchups between any two teams and choose the winner of each match." I don't recall it being allowable in early pre-conference tourneys to pick the named tourney host to win a match against the unnamed to-be-determined winner of a match to be played the day before. It really doesn't matter anyway since jaypak , n00b and I can simply skip entering weeks 13 and 14 and since we have no misses after 14 weeks we are automatically in the so-called tiebreaker, right? If you have such a negative attitude towards this contest, why do you keep participating? For the zillionth time, it’s the first year of this so there will be kinks to work out and we won’t know what they are until we come across them. In regards to the tiebreaker, what I have decided to do is this:Winning team picks reset for the NCAA tourney. (1) Select 8 of the 32 1st-round matches (when set) and pick a winner. If you survive, move on to #2. (2) Select 2 of the 8 Sweet 16 matches (when set) and pick a winner. You cannot use a team that was picked in tiebreaker #1. If you survive, move to #3. (3) Select 1 of the 4 Elite 8 matches (when set) and pick a winner. You cannot use a team that was picked in tiebreakers #1 or #2. If you survive, move on to #4. (4) Select 1 of the 2 Final 4 matches (when set) and pick a winner. You cannot use any team previously picked in tiebreakers. If you survive, move on to #5. (5) Choose the total combined points score for the championship match. Whoever is closest, wins. If there is a tie, the award will be shared. Therefore, for the tiebreakers, you’d be picking a total of 12 winners, but none can be the same. If you have no options of teams left to pick, you will be eliminated. If the last standing are eliminated in the same tiebreaker, the person who misses the smallest percentage of picks in the tiebreaker will win. If multiple people miss the same percentage of picks, they will continue on to the next tiebreaker as the decider. Note: if you skip weeks before the tiebreaker, you will have to increase your 1st round picks by 4 for each week missed leading up to the tiebreaker (i.e. if you miss week 14, you’ll have to choose 12/32 first round matches and pick correctly). Hope that is sufficient for everyone. FYI gbuttah jaypak mnsports255 n00b publius |
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Post by mnsports255 on Nov 13, 2022 23:53:55 GMT -5
W13 picks:
11/14: Texas Southern over Southern U
11/16: Buffalo over Akron
11/16: Central Michigan over E. Michigan
11/16: Bowling Green over Miami (OH)
11/16: Kentucky over Tennessee
11/16: TCU over West Virginia
11/17: Towson over Stony Brook
11/17: UT Martin over SIUE
11/17: Stanford over ASU
11/17: SJSU over Fresno St
11/17: Stephen F Austin over Cal Baptist
11/18: UTEP over Charlotte
11/18: ETSU over Winner of UNCG/Furman
11/18: SMU over Tulane
11/19: Utah State over Air Force
11/19: Colgate over Round 1 Winner
11/19: UCSB over UC Riverside
11/19: Northern Colorado over Idaho
11/20 Hawai’i over CSU Bakersfield
11/20: St. Johns over Georgetown
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Post by madden55 on Nov 14, 2022 10:38:09 GMT -5
W13 picks: 11/14: Texas Southern over Southern U 11/16: Buffalo over Akron 11/16: Central Michigan over E. Michigan 11/16: Bowling Green over Miami (OH) 11/16: Kentucky over Tennessee 11/16: TCU over West Virginia 11/17: Towson over Stony Brook 11/17: UT Martin over SIUE 11/17: Stanford over ASU 11/17: SJSU over Fresno St 11/17: Stephen F Austin over Cal Baptist 11/18: UTEP over Charlotte 11/18: ETSU over Winner of UNCG/Furman 11/18: SMU over Tulane 11/19: Utah State over Air Force 11/19: Colgate over Round 1 Winner 11/19: UCSB over UC Riverside 11/19: Northern Colorado over Idaho 11/20 Hawai’i over CSU Bakersfield 11/20: St. Johns over Georgetown Kentucky over Tennessee was risky |
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Post by vballfan17 on Nov 14, 2022 13:03:58 GMT -5
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Post by mnsports255 on Nov 14, 2022 13:33:30 GMT -5
W13 picks: 11/14: Texas Southern over Southern U 11/16: Buffalo over Akron 11/16: Central Michigan over E. Michigan 11/16: Bowling Green over Miami (OH) 11/16: Kentucky over Tennessee 11/16: TCU over West Virginia 11/17: Towson over Stony Brook 11/17: UT Martin over SIUE 11/17: Stanford over ASU 11/17: SJSU over Fresno St 11/17: Stephen F Austin over Cal Baptist 11/18: UTEP over Charlotte 11/18: ETSU over Winner of UNCG/Furman 11/18: SMU over Tulane 11/19: Utah State over Air Force 11/19: Colgate over Round 1 Winner 11/19: UCSB over UC Riverside 11/19: Northern Colorado over Idaho 11/20 Hawai’i over CSU Bakersfield 11/20: St. Johns over Georgetown Kentucky over Tennessee was risky I know! I’m not even close to sold on Kentucky in general… conference tournament week means super limited picks to choose from AND I had 20 to make this week smh. This might very well be the week I go. |
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Post by jaypak on Nov 14, 2022 18:37:54 GMT -5
Week 13 11/14 Texas Southern over Southern University 11/15 Evansville over Indiana State 11/17 UT-Martin over SIU-Edwardsville (OVC quarterfinal) 11/17 San José State over Fresno State 11/17 Liberty over Stetson (ASun quarterfinal) 11/17 Texas-Rio Grande Valley (UTRGV) over Southern Utah (WAC quarterfinal) 11/18 East Tennessee State (ETSU) over NC-Greensboro/Furman (SoCon quarterfinal) 11/19 Northern Colorado over Idaho 11/20 Illinois over Iowa 11/20 Hawaii over CSU-Bakersfield vballfan17 you will be missed. Good luck everyone! |
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