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Post by snatr on Mar 9, 2023 12:55:54 GMT -5
They’ve been searching for a month and missed most big tournaments for recruiting. Honest question, with everything on video now, is being able to attend a tournament in person important anymore? yes
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Post by Winbabywin on Mar 9, 2023 13:14:32 GMT -5
It's important, BUT not as important as it used to be. If you really want to get a recruit on your side, it is a nice gesture to come see her in person, even if you already know she can play to your standards. Maybe not so much about seeing them play anymore for evaluation purposes, but a political move to show how serious you are. As far as seeing a mass number of players, if that is your goal; yes, it is important if you are trying to cast a big net.
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Post by sevb on Mar 9, 2023 13:38:52 GMT -5
They’ve been searching for a month and missed most big tournaments for recruiting. Honest question, with everything on video now, is being able to attend a tournament in person important anymore? Yes… maybe not for the evaluation… but the recruiting process is less about evaluation than it is about personal relationship… and that takes in person face time!
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Post by noreaster on Mar 9, 2023 13:45:14 GMT -5
They’ve been searching for a month and missed most big tournaments for recruiting. Honest question, with everything on video now, is being able to attend a tournament in person important anymore? Not all video is good video. What is the camera angle? What is the distance? How much editing was done? Hey great a perfect pass - was that 1 of 1 or 1 of 25? And video isn't going to show her yelling at her parents because the water is warm or they packed the wrong socks. In person is just better.
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Post by Winbabywin on Mar 9, 2023 13:56:30 GMT -5
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Post by karellen on Mar 9, 2023 14:11:02 GMT -5
They’ve been searching for a month and missed most big tournaments for recruiting. Honest question, with everything on video now, is being able to attend a tournament in person important anymore? Absolutely. In person evaluation is always best (IMO). I have coached at all levels. Video can be deceiving - not intentionally and in both directions. There have been numerous cases where I saw a kid on video and thought she was great and would be a huge help to my program. I would make a point of seeing her somewhere and my reaction would be - "I came here to see THAT?!?" I would not make a final determination from 1 evaluation, but the visual eval was usually (if not always) more accurate. On the flip side, there were kids I saw on video that did not "wow" me, but created enough interest that I would make sure to see them at an event. Sometimes that athlete that showed potential would jump to the top of the list based on what I saw in person.
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Post by kneepain on Mar 9, 2023 14:26:09 GMT -5
Honest question, with everything on video now, is being able to attend a tournament in person important anymore? Absolutely. In person evaluation is always best (IMO). I have coached at all levels. Video can be deceiving - not intentionally and in both directions. There have been numerous cases where I saw a kid on video and thought she was great and would be a huge help to my program. I would make a point of seeing her somewhere and my reaction would be - "I came here to see THAT?!?" I would not make a final determination from 1 evaluation, but the visual eval was usually (if not always) more accurate. On the flip side, there were kids I saw on video that did not "wow" me, but created enough interest that I would make sure to see them at an event. Sometimes that athlete that showed potential would jump to the top of the list based on what I saw in person. I think the OP is referring to things like BallerTV where you can watch full matches live. But yes, recruiting in person is super important. Seeing the interactions off the court with parents and teammates, and even being able to make eye contact and smile at a recruit is a big deal.
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Post by karellen on Mar 9, 2023 14:30:30 GMT -5
Absolutely. In person evaluation is always best (IMO). I have coached at all levels. Video can be deceiving - not intentionally and in both directions. There have been numerous cases where I saw a kid on video and thought she was great and would be a huge help to my program. I would make a point of seeing her somewhere and my reaction would be - "I came here to see THAT?!?" I would not make a final determination from 1 evaluation, but the visual eval was usually (if not always) more accurate. On the flip side, there were kids I saw on video that did not "wow" me, but created enough interest that I would make sure to see them at an event. Sometimes that athlete that showed potential would jump to the top of the list based on what I saw in person. I think the OP is referring to things like BallerTV where you can watch full matches live. But yes, recruiting in person is super important. Seeing the interactions off the court with parents and teammates, and even being able to make eye contact and smile at a recruit is a big deal. The OP was referring to Butler's search and the recruiting they missed during that time. Maybe I read too much into it....
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Post by dizzydean on Mar 9, 2023 15:28:44 GMT -5
But it's the same jump. There's a lot of difference between NAIA and D1. KYLE SHONDELL HAD D1 EXPERIENCES. What do you all not get about that? I know that. But that was as an assistant at some pretty low schools in low conferences. It's still an NAIA head coach becoming a D1 head coach.
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Post by kneepain on Mar 9, 2023 16:26:16 GMT -5
I think the OP is referring to things like BallerTV where you can watch full matches live. But yes, recruiting in person is super important. Seeing the interactions off the court with parents and teammates, and even being able to make eye contact and smile at a recruit is a big deal. The OP was referring to Butler's search and the recruiting they missed during that time. Maybe I read too much into it.... That’s my bad. You’re right, I missed that comment. Sorry!
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Post by coachdavid on Mar 9, 2023 16:30:19 GMT -5
Absolutely. In person evaluation is always best (IMO). I have coached at all levels. Video can be deceiving - not intentionally and in both directions. There have been numerous cases where I saw a kid on video and thought she was great and would be a huge help to my program. I would make a point of seeing her somewhere and my reaction would be - "I came here to see THAT?!?" I would not make a final determination from 1 evaluation, but the visual eval was usually (if not always) more accurate. On the flip side, there were kids I saw on video that did not "wow" me, but created enough interest that I would make sure to see them at an event. Sometimes that athlete that showed potential would jump to the top of the list based on what I saw in person. I think the OP is referring to things like BallerTV where you can watch full matches live. But yes, recruiting in person is super important. Seeing the interactions off the court with parents and teammates, and even being able to make eye contact and smile at a recruit is a big deal. Hey I'll take more info over less info any day. Thanks everyone!
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Post by give me the og-ball-u on Mar 9, 2023 17:23:29 GMT -5
What is JFO cooking OMG… she has as many national team members as Imoco Volley
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Post by hangonsloopy on Mar 9, 2023 18:35:34 GMT -5
What is JFO cooking OMG… she has as many national team members as Imoco Volley That’s my coach! And she is on🔥🔥🔥
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Post by coahc21 on Mar 9, 2023 19:17:55 GMT -5
Honest question, with everything on video now, is being able to attend a tournament in person important anymore? Yes… maybe not for the evaluation… but the recruiting process is less about evaluation than it is about personal relationship… and that takes in person face time! Personally, I think there is a lot you can see in person that is hard to see on film -- especially at some of these big tournaments, not the best camera angles More so from a human intangible perspective -- it's great to see how they interact with their teammates/coaches/parents/body language -- that stuff is tough to see on film Not to mention to personal / politcal move made by showing how they important they are to you by being there courtside.
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Post by kneepain on Mar 9, 2023 21:07:12 GMT -5
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