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Post by InfoBot on Jan 31, 2023 20:34:09 GMT -5
John Cook said Nicklin Hames had an interview with Vandy. And that their GA Rémi Pourrat was hired at Arizona (unspecified role and if school or just the state of, but sounded like school) Interesting to hear about Vandy! Looks like Nelson is interested in having a young staff and Hames could make sense with her being inside a National power house and also being from Tennessee. The Cook/Skinner connection also could have made Nelson feel like he should at least speak with her out of professional courtesy too. Time will tell I suppose! Looks like this second AC posting may not have been a formality like the first one was since this is taking a fair bit longer to announce. Also think Pourrat has two options: 1) The new AC at UofA (filling the role Stubbs left empty to become HC) or new AC at GCU, "Arizona" being just the state.
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Post by InfoBot on Jan 31, 2023 20:45:00 GMT -5
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Post by Not Me on Jan 31, 2023 21:01:07 GMT -5
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Post by kneepain on Jan 31, 2023 21:20:24 GMT -5
Austin D’Amore no longer on Delaware’s roster. Based on Twitter bio’s, he’s dating Sondra Parys, new head coach at NIU. Is he following her? Can he be her assistant?
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Post by strikestwice on Jan 31, 2023 22:36:51 GMT -5
Austin D’Amore no longer on Delaware’s roster. Based on Twitter bio’s, he’s dating Sondra Parys, new head coach at NIU. Is he following her? Can he be her assistant? Or maybe replacing her at Loyola?
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Post by thebic6 on Feb 1, 2023 8:21:39 GMT -5
Sorry, I meant more along the line of has anyone heard anything about them being filled or not? Seemed like they have been both open for a while now and hadn’t seen anything posted anywhere about a hiring and was curious if I missed it somewhere else that they had.
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Post by aardvark on Feb 1, 2023 8:30:54 GMT -5
Slightly off topic, but North Carolina just hired a 22 year old to lead their National Championship Field Hockey team. She was a player on the team last year that won the NC. Now she is leading the program. To me, I don’t care how good of a player someone is. I don’t see how she can go from their peer to their boss. Last week she was drinking with her teammates on Franklin St, and now she gets to decide if they get playing time? That’s a tough change. I saw that. The last coach was there for 42 years. The associate head was there since 2005 and the other since 2012. How could the coaches feel for this person who they literally coached just last year. This also isn't a bad team, this is a national championship caliber team. wow. Karen Shelton, who just retired as their coach after 42 years, was hired on at the tender age of 23, after being a star player for UNC. She managed to build the team into a dynasty, winning 10 NCAA titles. In short, UNC tried this same thing the last time, and it worked magically.
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Post by raptor patrol on Feb 1, 2023 9:15:39 GMT -5
Karen Shelton, who just retired as their coach after 42 years, was hired on at the tender age of 23, after being a star player for UNC. She managed to build the team into a dynasty, winning 10 NCAA titles. In short, UNC tried this same thing the last time, and it worked magically. I'll bite. I find this post rather disingenuous. Even a cursory google search will tell you that 1. Karen Shelton played at West Chester, not UNC, so she wasn't coaching athletes she was just playing with, 2. She already had some experience as an assistant coach at Franklin & Marshall, and 3. The NCAA didn't start hosting national championships for field hockey until 1981, her first year coaching, so the landscape couldn't have been more different than it is today. Maybe we'll look back in 40 years and consider this a great hire, although I would be surprised if that is the case.
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Post by aardvark on Feb 1, 2023 11:47:30 GMT -5
Karen Shelton, who just retired as their coach after 42 years, was hired on at the tender age of 23, after being a star player for UNC. She managed to build the team into a dynasty, winning 10 NCAA titles. In short, UNC tried this same thing the last time, and it worked magically. I'll bite. I find this post rather disingenuous. Even a cursory google search will tell you that 1. Karen Shelton played at West Chester, not UNC, so she wasn't coaching athletes she was just playing with, 2. She already had some experience as an assistant coach at Franklin & Marshall, and 3. The NCAA didn't start hosting national championships for field hockey until 1981, her first year coaching, so the landscape couldn't have been more different than it is today. Maybe we'll look back in 40 years and consider this a great hire, although I would be surprised if that is the case. Oops. My bad. Shelton did play for West Chester, not UNC. I noted that she was hired when she was 23, one year older than Erin Matson. In that one year she apparently spent some time as an assistant coach at Franklin & Marshall. Are you saying this makes her hire much less controversial that Matson's? The two hires are very similar, actually. Both players were multi-year team captains and winners of the Honda award. Both players had US national team experience, which included time overseas. As for the NCAA starting hosting championships in 1981... who cares? Championships existed before then, and people cared about them, even if they didn't have the NCAA label on them. I wonder why you doubt she will be successful. She has become a great player partly through effort and determination, and partly by learning to do the right thing. Both of those qualities should serve her well as a head coach. She knows how to win and has a successful program to serve as a strong starting point. I wouldn't bet against her winning a title in her first try as coach, later this year. I like the hire. It's a top tier school showing confidence in a young woman who clearly knows how to play.
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Post by Winbabywin on Feb 1, 2023 12:05:54 GMT -5
I wonder why you doubt she will be successful. She has become a great player partly through effort and determination, and partly by learning to do the right thing. Both of those qualities should serve her well as a head coach. She knows how to win and has a successful program to serve as a strong starting point. I wouldn't bet against her winning a title in her first try as coach, later this year. I like the hire. It's a top tier school showing confidence in a young woman who clearly knows how to play. This is an extremely naive take! Great player does not always equal a great coach, there are numerous examples of this in all sports. You are saying that coaching a female sport (as a female) in 2023 is the exact same as coaching it in 1980, which is incredibly ridiculous. Knowledge of the sport is only about half of what is needed these days, to successfully navigate the NCAA head coaching world, and she is asked to be a "CEO" of a major program at a ripe young age. You can be as successful as anyone in the world, at your sport, but there are some things that only time and experience can provide, and she hasn't had enough of either. I guess we will see what happens; but saying this should not raise an eyebrow is a tad naive.
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 1, 2023 12:07:39 GMT -5
I'll bite. I find this post rather disingenuous. Even a cursory google search will tell you that 1. Karen Shelton played at West Chester, not UNC, so she wasn't coaching athletes she was just playing with, 2. She already had some experience as an assistant coach at Franklin & Marshall, and 3. The NCAA didn't start hosting national championships for field hockey until 1981, her first year coaching, so the landscape couldn't have been more different than it is today. Maybe we'll look back in 40 years and consider this a great hire, although I would be surprised if that is the case. Oops. My bad. Shelton did play for West Chester, not UNC. I noted that she was hired when she was 23, one year older than Erin Matson. In that one year she apparently spent some time as an assistant coach at Franklin & Marshall. Are you saying this makes her hire much less controversial that Matson's? The two hires are very similar, actually. Both players were multi-year team captains and winners of the Honda award. Both players had US national team experience, which included time overseas. As for the NCAA starting hosting championships in 1981... who cares? Championships existed before then, and people cared about them, even if they didn't have the NCAA label on them. I wonder why you doubt she will be successful. She has become a great player partly through effort and determination, and partly by learning to do the right thing. Both of those qualities should serve her well as a head coach. She knows how to win and has a successful program to serve as a strong starting point. I wouldn't bet against her winning a title in her first try as coach, later this year. I like the hire. It's a top tier school showing confidence in a young woman who clearly knows how to play. Things Matson has never done: Plan a college practice Run a college practice Hire a staff Manage a staff Manage a budget Recruit Manage a team of players Game plan Held a full-time job She sounds like a remarkable woman and a transcendent player and I hope it works out, but there are lots and lots of good reasons to think this won't.
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Post by coahc21 on Feb 1, 2023 12:19:21 GMT -5
Oops. My bad. Shelton did play for West Chester, not UNC. I noted that she was hired when she was 23, one year older than Erin Matson. In that one year she apparently spent some time as an assistant coach at Franklin & Marshall. Are you saying this makes her hire much less controversial that Matson's? The two hires are very similar, actually. Both players were multi-year team captains and winners of the Honda award. Both players had US national team experience, which included time overseas. As for the NCAA starting hosting championships in 1981... who cares? Championships existed before then, and people cared about them, even if they didn't have the NCAA label on them. I wonder why you doubt she will be successful. She has become a great player partly through effort and determination, and partly by learning to do the right thing. Both of those qualities should serve her well as a head coach. She knows how to win and has a successful program to serve as a strong starting point. I wouldn't bet against her winning a title in her first try as coach, later this year. I like the hire. It's a top tier school showing confidence in a young woman who clearly knows how to play. Things Matson has never done: Plan a college practice Run a college practice Hire a staff Manage a staff Manage a budget Recruit Manage a team of players Game plan Held a full-time job She sounds like a remarkable woman and a transcendent player and I hope it works out, but there are lots and lots of good reasons to think this won't. Perhaps this needs its own thread at this point -- but just to add, that often, great players do not make great coaches because things had come somewhat easily to them and they cannot relate to the struggle of other athletes, and lack empathy for different learning styles and paces -- it is also really hard to understand and experience the behind the scenes stuff as mentioned above here as a full-time student athlete
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Post by aardvark on Feb 1, 2023 12:23:43 GMT -5
So many naysayers! I suspect Erin had been prepping herself to get into coaching and seeking guidance from the staff on aspects of that while she was a player. Her bio notes that she minored in coaching education, after all.
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Post by InfoBot on Feb 1, 2023 12:25:54 GMT -5
Sorry, I meant more along the line of has anyone heard anything about them being filled or not? Seemed like they have been both open for a while now and hadn’t seen anything posted anywhere about a hiring and was curious if I missed it somewhere else that they had. Someone said on January 19, "Akiko Hatakeyama to Syracuse as associate head coach." and the roster reflects that. No idea on the other AC.
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