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Post by jayj79 on Oct 4, 2022 10:49:06 GMT -5
I'm mildly curious what exactly trump is claiming as cnn's defamatory statements (but not enough to waste my time digging for it, b/c I have better things to do with my time than waste it on trump)
I'd also be mildly curious if there were concrete examples of libel/slander made by fox against specific democratic figures; but I know that no one here is going to provide those
I'm also annoyed by the implications in this thread that someone's looks have any sort of correlation (direct or inverse) to how capable they are at performing their job as an attorney.
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Post by mervinswerved on Oct 4, 2022 10:53:12 GMT -5
This is relevant how, exactly?
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Post by BearClause on Oct 4, 2022 11:02:15 GMT -5
I'm mildly curious what exactly trump is claiming as cnn's defamatory statements (but not enough to waste my time digging for it, b/c I have better things to do with my time than waste it on trump) I'd also be mildly curious if there were concrete examples of libel/slander made by fox against specific democratic figures; but I know that no one here is going to provide those I'm also annoyed by the implications in this thread that someone's looks have any sort of correlation (direct or inverse) to how capable they are at performing their job as an attorney. No negative inference per se, but that it's something that Trump would consider.
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Post by BearClause on Oct 4, 2022 11:08:38 GMT -5
This is relevant how, exactly? It's not. However, her experience as an attorney is hardly relevant to suing a large media company for defamation. Her specialty is defending insurance companies.
But it's one of the first things that come up with any kind of search of her name.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Oct 4, 2022 11:26:53 GMT -5
This is relevant how, exactly? It's not. However, her experience as an attorney is hardly relevant to suing a large media company for defamation. Her specialty is defending insurance companies.
But it's one of the first things that come up with any kind of search of her name. Nothing about her profession as lawyer was gained or noted in the pics you decided to share. In fact you expressed disappointment that she was not in the group a@@ picture. So again, we have somebody from ten years ago who decided that she wasn’t going to parade around in her under wear, or be a part of a group butt shot. (She was in the “over the shoulder” pic, so I guess you got her there) Seems like her only current negative is that Trump may have hired her to do a job that is not her area of expertise. Not the first time he’s done that (Ben Carson to manage HUB instead of being Surgeon General???) Thanks for cracking the case, but if I want pics of scantily clad women, I’ll just buy a Maxim magazine or this other thing called the Internet. I’d say your TDS is showing but that just gets everyone else in a tizzy.
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Post by BearClause on Oct 4, 2022 12:02:03 GMT -5
It's not. However, her experience as an attorney is hardly relevant to suing a large media company for defamation. Her specialty is defending insurance companies. But it's one of the first things that come up with any kind of search of her name. Nothing about her profession as lawyer was gained or noted in the pics you decided to share. In fact you expressed disappointment that she was not in the group a@@ picture. So again, we have somebody from ten years ago who decided that she wasn’t going to parade around in her under wear, or be a part of a group butt shot. (She was in the “over the shoulder” pic, so I guess you got her there) Seems like her only current negative is that Trump may have hired her to do a job that is not her area of expertise. Not the first time he’s done that (Ben Carson to manage HUB instead of being Surgeon General???) Thanks for cracking the case, but if I want pics of scantily clad women, I’ll just buy a Maxim magazine or this other thing called the Internet. I’d say your TDS is showing but that just gets everyone else in a tizzy. I do sense a pattern though. Trump values people who are willing to do almost anything for him. Along with women who are eye candy. I'm pretty sure that there have been many warning Trump that he should hire competent attorneys and actually follow their advice. And the first piece of advice any lawyer worth anything will do is Tell Trump to shut the hell up. I think it's pretty telling that the best attorney in his Mar-A-Lago search case has told him to be less antagonistic but Trump has more of less sidelined him because he wants to go down fighting rather than admit that he was wrong.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Oct 4, 2022 12:50:36 GMT -5
Nothing about her profession as lawyer was gained or noted in the pics you decided to share. In fact you expressed disappointment that she was not in the group a@@ picture. So again, we have somebody from ten years ago who decided that she wasn’t going to parade around in her under wear, or be a part of a group butt shot. (She was in the “over the shoulder” pic, so I guess you got her there) Seems like her only current negative is that Trump may have hired her to do a job that is not her area of expertise. Not the first time he’s done that (Ben Carson to manage HUB instead of being Surgeon General???) Thanks for cracking the case, but if I want pics of scantily clad women, I’ll just buy a Maxim magazine or this other thing called the Internet. I’d say your TDS is showing but that just gets everyone else in a tizzy. I do sense a pattern though. Trump values people who are willing to do almost anything for him. Along with women who are eye candy. I'm pretty sure that there have been many warning Trump that he should hire competent attorneys and actually follow their advice. And the first piece of advice any lawyer worth anything will do is Tell Trump to shut the hell up. I think it's pretty telling that the best attorney in his Mar-A-Lago search case has told him to be less antagonistic but Trump has more of less sidelined him because he wants to go down fighting rather than admit that he was wrong. But has there been a pattern of Trump hiring beautiful women to work in important positions for him (other than his daughter)? Giuliani and Conway weren’t exactly GQ models.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2022 13:10:30 GMT -5
I do sense a pattern though. Trump values people who are willing to do almost anything for him. Along with women who are eye candy. I'm pretty sure that there have been many warning Trump that he should hire competent attorneys and actually follow their advice. And the first piece of advice any lawyer worth anything will do is Tell Trump to shut the hell up. I think it's pretty telling that the best attorney in his Mar-A-Lago search case has told him to be less antagonistic but Trump has more of less sidelined him because he wants to go down fighting rather than admit that he was wrong. But has there been a pattern of Trump hiring beautiful women to work in important positions for him (other than his daughter)? Giuliani and Conway weren’t exactly GQ models. Yes--lots of attractive women. Giuliani was/is a Quisling/Goebbels sort of person willing to do whatever Trump wanted.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Oct 4, 2022 13:37:23 GMT -5
But has there been a pattern of Trump hiring beautiful women to work in important positions for him (other than his daughter)? Giuliani and Conway weren’t exactly GQ models. Yes--lots of attractive women. Who exactly are you thinking of?
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Post by BearClause on Oct 4, 2022 13:45:12 GMT -5
I do sense a pattern though. Trump values people who are willing to do almost anything for him. Along with women who are eye candy. I'm pretty sure that there have been many warning Trump that he should hire competent attorneys and actually follow their advice. And the first piece of advice any lawyer worth anything will do is Tell Trump to shut the hell up. I think it's pretty telling that the best attorney in his Mar-A-Lago search case has told him to be less antagonistic but Trump has more of less sidelined him because he wants to go down fighting rather than admit that he was wrong. But has there been a pattern of Trump hiring beautiful women to work in important positions for him (other than his daughter)? Giuliani and Conway weren’t exactly GQ models. Hope Hicks. Alina Habba. Lindsey Halligan. But most recently he's been in some serious, serious trouble and he can't help but look for yes people rather than hire top-notch attorneys and follow their advance. It almost seemed like he went with Chris Kise because he knew he was in trouble, but now puts him aside because he doesn't want to follow sound legal advice.
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Post by BearClause on Oct 4, 2022 13:57:23 GMT -5
Here's a decent rundown of why this is doomed:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2022 15:27:29 GMT -5
Yes--lots of attractive women. Who exactly are you thinking of? Kayleigh McEnany Stephanie Grisham Hope Hicks Those are off the top of my head.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Oct 4, 2022 15:38:13 GMT -5
Who exactly are you thinking of? Kayleigh McEnany Stephanie Grisham Hope Hicks Those are off the top of my head. I'll give 2 out of 3 of those, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Oct 4, 2022 17:22:57 GMT -5
Take a gander at the three female attorneys on Team Trump these days - Habba, Halligan, and Bobb (although Bobb seems to be sidelined, and has lawyered up). They have two things in common: One, they're all woefully inexperienced; Two, they all look good on camera. This illustrates how difficult it's been for Trump to attract experienced, high-profile legal representation (which seems mind-boggling - a former President of the United States can't find lawyers? - until one remembers who exactly we're talking about). But it also goes to Trump's oft-stated obsession with image, particularly when it comes to being on camera. He's apparently very taken with Habba: In private, Trump has repeatedly commented on how much she “loves Trump” and has on many occasions gushed to close associates about her physical appearance—how she’s “a beauty” on TV and at his clubs, according to two sources who’ve talked to him about Habba in recent months.www.thedailybeast.com/alina-habba-the-trump-lawyer-the-rest-of-trumps-legal-team-loathesIt's not just women, either. Trump really loves a man in uniform, particularly one with lots of decorations - remember him gushing about how "his" generals look like they're "out of central casting?" He also used the same phrase to describe Brett Kavanaugh, for some reason. Trump values personal loyalty over any other quality when it comes to hiring people, but personal appearance is way up there as well. Competency is much further down the list. Given Trump's obsession of sorts with personal appearance, fair game to bring it up when trying to understand his personnel decisions.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 4, 2022 22:43:11 GMT -5
how difficult it's been for Trump to attract experienced, high-profile legal representation (which seems mind-boggling - a former President of the United States can't find lawyers? - until one remembers who exactly we're talking about) He has a long list of former lawyers suing him for not paying them, which probably makes it harder to hire new lawyers. Trump's attitude toward paying people for work they do for him seems to be that as soon as the work is finished, there is no need to pay them anymore. When doing business with Trump, you should always make sure you get paid in advance.
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