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Post by jayj79 on Oct 6, 2022 22:07:42 GMT -5
it’s ten feet from the net And that’s also how the U.S does measurements, we don’t go by meters usually… and it’s easier saying 10 foot than 9…. Whatever the exact measurement is😭 do high school and college volleyball courts have different dimensions? I saw a site that listed NFHS court dimensions in feet (30' x 60', attack lines 10' from the centerline on both courts) while the NCAA court dimensions were listed in meters (9m x 18m, attack lines 3m from the centerline on bouth courts) practically the same, but the imperial measurements are slightly larger than the metric measurements
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Post by sevb on Oct 6, 2022 22:08:03 GMT -5
You don’t? I bet you don’t click the tongs before you use them, either. Wild. Ok.. thats legit funny… well played But back to reasons why prepvolleyball was a better site when my kid played hs jv and the attack line WAS actually 10’
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Post by sevb on Oct 6, 2022 22:09:36 GMT -5
And that’s also how the U.S does measurements, we don’t go by meters usually… and it’s easier saying 10 foot than 9…. Whatever the exact measurement is😭 do high school and college volleyball courts have different dimensions? I saw a site that listed NFHS court dimensions in feet (30' x 60', attack lines 10' from the centerline on both courts) while the NCAA court dimensions were listed in meters (9m x 18m, attack lines 3m from the centerline on bouth courts) practically the same, but the imperial measurements are slightly larger than the metric measurements They do… Hs is one metric… Everyone else is another… Its silly
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Post by vballfan17 on Oct 6, 2022 22:11:01 GMT -5
Why is the challenge card green? Do they not want it to look like the coach is giving the ref a yellow card?
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Post by widdledumpling on Oct 6, 2022 22:46:45 GMT -5
Are you stupid? We won’t judge. Ask the questions you’re too afraid to ask anywhere else I’ll go first: why does the down ref move over to the side opposite the one that has just earned the point to signal? They don’t. They stay whatever side they were on. What do you mean? They stand exactly even with the net, then take a step and point to the team opposite the direction of their step.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Oct 6, 2022 22:53:11 GMT -5
Why are substitutions sometimes so awkward? Example, players swap spots. No, ref calls them back to hold hands and waves them in? Part B, why does the libero sub, have to involve an extra middle to go through the motions of subbing in and going back to the bench? When middles swap, there is no need to enter/exit in front of the down ref. When libero swaps, there is no need to enter/exit in front of the down ref (so that the score keepers can keep track of the counted substitutions).
When they do the awkward swap, it's because one was serving and they do a swap with their paired player (counts) and then gets swapped with the libero (no count) or they do a swap with the libero (no count) and then swap with their paired player (counts).
Some down refs, if they're comfortable with it lets the home team swap with barely a pause because they know the scoring table knows the players well and can handle the "paperwork" of the swap easily compared to the visiting team where they just learned their names the day of game and have to slow it down to get the sub record and count correct.
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Post by JT on Oct 6, 2022 22:53:14 GMT -5
Why are substitutions sometimes so awkward? Example, players swap spots. No, ref calls them back to hold hands and waves them in? Part B, why does the libero sub, have to involve an extra middle to go through the motions of subbing in and going back to the bench? Ref calls them back if he hasn’t processed them. There’s a limit on subs, and the ref needs to be sure that the officials have recorded the substitution (and may also keep track of the number .. not sure). Part B - pedantic nit, the Libero replaces another player. She does not substitute for them (and the replacement is supposed to occur behind the attack line). If you didn’t have the sub-then-replace, then teams would get away with a free substitution. For example (using Gophers)… … Carter would rotate to serve, but instead is subbed out for Elise. 1 substitution … Elise serves, and when a side out occurs, CC replaces her. … CC rotates across the back court, until her position rotates to the front. … Carter comes back in, replacing CC. CC replaces Naya in the service position. 0 substitutions. Whoops! Elise serving for Carter, and then coming back out, should have been two subs! Note that it is perfectly legit to have Elise replace CC when that position rotates into the front row, and immediately get subbed out by Carter coming back in. That isn’t normally done because the middles and serving subs forget, and cost their team one or more points when it’s finally noticed.
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Post by justahick on Oct 6, 2022 22:56:41 GMT -5
They don’t. They stay whatever side they were on. What do you mean? They stand exactly even with the net, then take a step and point to the team opposite the direction of their step. The recommend procedure is for the second referee to step to the side of the fault before indicating. One reason for this is that this can be a subtle way for R2 to indicate to R1 what she saw without making a large signal. For example, R2 can indicate that they don't think the blocker touched the attacked ball that landed out by moving to the attacking side while the R1 is scanning the LJs. If the R2 saw the touch, then he would step out on the blocking side and make a touch signal. There are several situations where R2 can help R1 by giving an opinion without making a big production, allowing R1 to choose to disagree in a more subtle way than if R2 makes a big signal. One reason that this movement came about is that the side of the fault is the side R2 will eventually end up on once R2 is watching the receiving team for positional faults.
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Post by widdledumpling on Oct 6, 2022 22:57:40 GMT -5
Why is the challenge card green? Do they not want it to look like the coach is giving the ref a yellow card? That would be my guess. Two cards existed already—red and yellow. Then we add green to finish the traffic light.
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Post by justahick on Oct 6, 2022 22:58:21 GMT -5
And that’s also how the U.S does measurements, we don’t go by meters usually… and it’s easier saying 10 foot than 9…. Whatever the exact measurement is😭 do high school and college volleyball courts have different dimensions? I saw a site that listed NFHS court dimensions in feet (30' x 60', attack lines 10' from the centerline on both courts) while the NCAA court dimensions were listed in meters (9m x 18m, attack lines 3m from the centerline on bouth courts) practically the same, but the imperial measurements are slightly larger than the metric measurements All courts in the US are now supposed to in meters. In the very old days (c. 1975 ?), the dimensions were 30ft x 30ft and the attack line was at 10 ft. Many people still call it the 10 ft line, when it is actually the 3m line.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2022 23:00:34 GMT -5
To answer your question another way, then, the NCAA commentators call it the ten-foot line because that’s what it’s first called when it’s taught to kids in PE class at school. And it stuck. And guess what, it just happens to be so damn close to 10 that it’s fine to call it that. Similarly a balance beam in gymnastics is often said to be “four inches wide” but it’s not. It’s ten centimeters. But why are you being that weird annoying guy going “metric only for me” in an otherwise fun thread? Its a thread about dumb questions… Anyone needing lotion for the response probably walks up and checks the net height with their hands after the officials measure it with a chain… this dude’s one step away from calling the thread too “woke”, I bet you’re fun at parties
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2022 23:01:04 GMT -5
it’s ten feet from the net No its not.. my bad. Y’all can cancel me for false information. So sorry everyone !
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 6, 2022 23:02:09 GMT -5
Why do college announcers call it the 10’ line? Because if they call it the three meter line, a large percentage of their audience wouldn't really know how far that is. But you can see the line. You can *see* how far it is from the net. You don't need to know what a meter or a foot is to know far the line is from the net. (Unless you are blind, I guess.)
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Post by justahick on Oct 6, 2022 23:08:38 GMT -5
Why are substitutions sometimes so awkward? Example, players swap spots. No, ref calls them back to hold hands and waves them in? Part B, why does the libero sub, have to involve an extra middle to go through the motions of subbing in and going back to the bench? Subs need to wait to be acknowledged and released by the R2. R2 needs to wait until the scorekeeper has recorded them properly. Sometimes scorekeepers need an extra moment to record something else, verify that the sub is legal, or answer a question before they record the sub. This is especially true when both teams sub at the same time - one has to be recorded first, so the other is made to wait. b) the libero must replace a player currently on the court and once the libero rotates to the front row, the player the libero replaced must reenter the game. When a serving sub is used for a middle, teams will often sub the server back out and the middle back in before the libero replacement so that once the libero gets to the front row, the middle is the legal person to enter. If this wasn't done, the serve sub and middles have a tendency to forget and if the middle goes in while the serve sub is supposed to go in, there can be a loss of rally for having an illegal player on the court.
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Post by justahick on Oct 6, 2022 23:10:25 GMT -5
Why isn’t it a lift when a player has an ugly mistimed swing where the ball clearly slides along the hand with the hand under the ball ? When a ball rolls around a players hand it is neither caught or thrown (so not a lift). The correct call, if it isn't the first contact, would be a double, because every contact with the hand should be considered a separate contact.
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