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Post by JT on Oct 7, 2022 1:04:56 GMT -5
What is considered “out of rotation”, as it seems like players just stand where ever anyway. Like I get the gust of it, but is there like an invisible square they need to be In pre serve or something? The players can’t be out of order with those on their sides, or front-to-back. So in this rotation (ro1)…
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4 3 2
5 6 1
… “4” must be to the left of “3” and in front of “5” … “3” must be between “4” and “2” and in front of “6” … “2” must be to the right of three and in front of “1” … etc (If “1” is serving, her position doesn’t matter, because she isn’t in the court when the ball is first contacted.) So, this is a completely legit positioning…
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And in fact, if the Ascii-“art” allowed for it, you might have “2” behind “3” and just *barely* to the right of her. Similarly, “4” and “5” could be *almost” parallel with each other — as long as “4” is *slightly* closer to the front. |
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Post by WahineFan44 on Oct 7, 2022 1:07:18 GMT -5
What is considered “out of rotation”, as it seems like players just stand where ever anyway. Like I get the gust of it, but is there like an invisible square they need to be In pre serve or something? The players can’t be out of order with those on their sides, or front-to-back. So in this rotation (ro1)…
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4 3 2
5 6 1
… “4” must be to the left of “3” and in front of “5” … “3” must be between “4” and “2” and in front of “6” … “2” must be to the right of three and in front of “1” … etc (If “1” is serving, her position doesn’t matter, because she isn’t in the court when the ball is first contacted.) So, this is a completely legit positioning…
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4
5 6
1
And in fact, if the Ascii-“art” allowed for it, you might have “2” behind “3” and just *barely* to the right of her. Similarly, “4” and “5” could be *almost” parallel with each other — as long as “4” is *slightly* closer to the front. So could 4 theoretically be the the right of five? But just ahead? Looking at this, I can’t fathom how anyone is “out” of position, is it most commonly like 5 is on the wrong side of 6 etc? |
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Post by slxpress on Oct 7, 2022 1:42:14 GMT -5
What is considered “out of rotation”, as it seems like players just stand where ever anyway. Like I get the gust of it, but is there like an invisible square they need to be In pre serve or something? The players can’t be out of order with those on their sides, or front-to-back. So in this rotation (ro1)…
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4 3 2
5 6 1
… “4” must be to the left of “3” and in front of “5” … “3” must be between “4” and “2” and in front of “6” … “2” must be to the right of three and in front of “1” … etc (If “1” is serving, her position doesn’t matter, because she isn’t in the court when the ball is first contacted.) So, this is a completely legit positioning…
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4
5 6
1
And in fact, if the Ascii-“art” allowed for it, you might have “2” behind “3” and just *barely* to the right of her. Similarly, “4” and “5” could be *almost” parallel with each other — as long as “4” is *slightly* closer to the front. That's some impressive Ascii-fu there. |
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Post by JT on Oct 7, 2022 1:50:14 GMT -5
The players can’t be out of order with those on their sides, or front-to-back. So in this rotation (ro1)…
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4 3 2
5 6 1
… “4” must be to the left of “3” and in front of “5” … “3” must be between “4” and “2” and in front of “6” … “2” must be to the right of three and in front of “1” … etc (If “1” is serving, her position doesn’t matter, because she isn’t in the court when the ball is first contacted.) So, this is a completely legit positioning…
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4
5 6
1
And in fact, if the Ascii-“art” allowed for it, you might have “2” behind “3” and just *barely* to the right of her. Similarly, “4” and “5” could be *almost” parallel with each other — as long as “4” is *slightly* closer to the front. So could 4 theoretically be the the right of five? But just ahead? Looking at this, I can’t fathom how anyone is “out” of position, is it most commonly like 5 is on the wrong side of 6 etc? Yes. This would be legit
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As long as 4 is in front of 5 (the player behind her in this rotation), it’s okay.. The left-right positioning of those two players is irrelevant. There are still plenty of ways to mess up and be out of rotation. .. if 2 is the MB, she will want to switch with 3. If they cheat it too much, or switch too early (before the ball is hit) they can be called. .. if 1 is the setter, and wants to get up to the front quickly (and not interfere with 6’s reception of the serve), she could accidentally get to the left of 6 before the ball is served. .. if 4 wants to play deep, and 5 wants to cover the short serve, they’re asking for trouble. |
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Post by coachdavid on Oct 7, 2022 1:56:33 GMT -5
Who determined that NCAA would go back to switching sides between sets and how do I tell them to make the pain stop?
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Post by sonofdogman on Oct 7, 2022 3:09:31 GMT -5
I can't believe there is so much talk about the 9 foot 10 inch line in here.
Which is actually exactly 10 feet from the net in more gyms than you think because the people painting the lines don't know the metric system either...
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Post by slxpress on Oct 7, 2022 3:13:48 GMT -5
I can't believe there is so much talk about the 9 foot 10 inch line in here. Which is actually exactly 10 feet from the net in more gyms than you think because the people painting the lines don't know the metric system either... That’s hilarious. |
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Post by jayj79 on Oct 7, 2022 3:41:01 GMT -5
I can't believe there is so much talk about the 9 foot 10 inch line in here. Which is actually exactly 10 feet from the net in more gyms than you think because the people painting the lines don't know the metric system either... paint? You mean the people putting down tape on the basketball court? |
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Post by jayj79 on Oct 7, 2022 3:44:51 GMT -5
Why is a let serve in VB in play In tennis it’s a do over That factor of randomness interrupts normal play If a serve hits the top of the net and doesn’t reach the attack line (unplayable) then replay the serve Makes perfect sense that it’s no longer a fault should they ban float serves because they involve a "factor of randomness"? Also, if you're comparing serving rules between tennis and volleyball, should volleyball allow a "2nd serve" if there is a fault on the first serve? |
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Post by volleyball303 on Oct 7, 2022 4:35:47 GMT -5
What do the setters signal to the players before doing a play? And what do the players signal behind their backs before the player serves? 1) Setters are signaling the play they'd run on a perfect pass, usually to help hitter coverage... honestly its mostly mishegoss since the pass is more or less going to determine the play. 2) The players are signaling service seams they see open / things that could cause chaos. Usually in each ro, there's a target from the scouting anyway (what the coach signals in from the bench), so again it's pretty pointless. But sometimes if your coach's serve signal matches the same general area, you can target the seem that the MB sees. Colorado is actually calling something to do with blocking. I know when Jesse (Coach) was a CSU they were doing the same think. I would say it’s dumb but CU best quality over the years is blocking. |
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Post by Outsider on Oct 7, 2022 6:32:18 GMT -5
Hate when announcers say a hitting percentage is like a batting average - in baseball if they calculated hits-outs divided by at bats nobody would hit positive! I think a better analogy would be (hits - strikeouts)/at bats |
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Post by Outsider on Oct 7, 2022 6:42:07 GMT -5
On in-system plays, is the setter just verbally communicating where the set will go, or are there other ways the hitters will know when they are getting the ball? On the serve reception I assume this is communicated by the setter's hand signals before the serve, but after that... ?
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Post by Outsider on Oct 7, 2022 6:48:33 GMT -5
What is considered “out of rotation”, as it seems like players just stand where ever anyway. Like I get the gust of it, but is there like an invisible square they need to be In pre serve or something? The players can’t be out of order with those on their sides, or front-to-back. So in this rotation (ro1)…
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4 3 2
5 6 1
… “4” must be to the left of “3” and in front of “5” … “3” must be between “4” and “2” and in front of “6” … “2” must be to the right of three and in front of “1” … etc (If “1” is serving, her position doesn’t matter, because she isn’t in the court when the ball is first contacted.) So, this is a completely legit positioning…
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5 6
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And in fact, if the Ascii-“art” allowed for it, you might have “2” behind “3” and just *barely* to the right of her. Similarly, “4” and “5” could be *almost” parallel with each other — as long as “4” is *slightly* closer to the front. Thanks, this answers a lot of my long-standing questions about positioning. One more, though: can 5 or 6 be in front of the 3 meter line as long as they are behind all of 2, 3, and 4? Or must they always be behind the line as the ball is served? |
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Post by warriors on Oct 7, 2022 7:08:13 GMT -5
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Post by doodlebob on Oct 7, 2022 7:46:06 GMT -5
Why do all the national team players practice in leggings/shorts but play in spandex? Why not practice how you play?
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