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Post by pavsec5row10 on Oct 7, 2022 12:33:36 GMT -5
1) Is there any rule about which middle the libero serves for or could it be either? Like hypothetically if the libero serves for the M2 the one set could they serve for the M1 in the next? 2) This is more speaking as a fan, sometimes broadcasts/box scores show half blocks and sometimes they just say the total blocks. Is there an agreed upon use? Let's say a player has 2 solo blocks and 3 block assists and I come on VT after the game, do I say she had 3.5 blocks or 5? 2) I would say she has 5 blocks and 3.5 points. When the half blocks show up on broadcasts it is likely from a triple block where 3 players each had a block assist. |
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Oct 7, 2022 12:33:37 GMT -5
Are you stupid? We won’t judge. Ask the questions you’re too afraid to ask anywhere else I’ll go first: why does the down ref move over to the side opposite the one that has just earned the point to signal?   |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 7, 2022 12:35:47 GMT -5
Why is a back row left side attack not a thing? A “10”, “Biq”, “Red” “D ball” etc to the middle of the court and the right side all seem to be a thing at various levels. Is the OH in the front just always a better option based on the way rotations are built? Or do you just have your best hitter go right after the serve to space them away form the OH and make the middle commit late? Brazil's men used to mix this in back in the Giba days! Usually over a Zone 4 attacker running some combo in the middle. |
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Post by GatorsChomp on Oct 7, 2022 12:39:33 GMT -5
Why is over the net call a thing when the setter is in the backrow? Wouldn't it be a back row attack on the setter if the hitter is able to touch the ball at the same time the setter does?
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Post by widdledumpling on Oct 7, 2022 12:39:49 GMT -5
Okay, if I have a 6 rotation OH, then another OH who subs out with a DS, a libero swapping out with the middles, and a double substitution with setters and Opps, is this a 6-2 or a 4-2? That is a 6-2 because there are two setters playing (not at the same time) and there are always three players in the front row. I’ve never seen a 4-2 anywhere but low level rec leagues where the teams can’t handle having a back row setter. |
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Post by radioactiveman on Oct 7, 2022 12:40:04 GMT -5
Okay, if I have a 6 rotation OH, then another OH who subs out with a DS, a libero swapping out with the middles, and a double substitution with setters and Opps, is this a 6-2 or a 4-2? Difference between 6-2 and 4-2 is where you keep the setters. If they are swapping out in the front row it’s a 4-2 but then you wouldn’t have an Opp since the setter would be always be in that position. The scenario you described is a 6-2 with setters always in the back and 3 hitters at all times. |
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Post by widdledumpling on Oct 7, 2022 12:40:34 GMT -5
on serve receive, does every player have to have each foot within the court before the ball is hit? or can someone be standing out-of-bounds? to my knowledge everyone has to be completely in bounds. |
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Post by JT on Oct 7, 2022 12:42:02 GMT -5
If they are setting in front of the 10 foot line, yes. They have to use their platform, no hands. i am pretty sure that i never knew that.
edit: seems to be an odd rule
If you didn’t have this rule, the (L) would become the (S) instead of a special DS. |
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Post by trojansc on Oct 7, 2022 12:43:01 GMT -5
Okay, if I have a 6 rotation OH, then another OH who subs out with a DS, a libero swapping out with the middles, and a double substitution with setters and Opps, is this a 6-2 or a 4-2? That's a 6-2. You always have three hitters in the front row. |
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Post by widdledumpling on Oct 7, 2022 12:46:48 GMT -5
There's been lots of talk about switching Wenaas from OPP back to OH in the Minnesota topic. 1. In what ways is playing OPP more difficult than OH? OPP has more blocking duties than OH, because they’re lined up against the other teams’ left sides who almost always get the most sets. Also since most players are right handed the sets can be a bit harder to hit, as to hit they have to open their shoulder away from the setter. This means it’s harder to hit sharp cross without obviously telegraphing it by having their shoulders face into the court. Also I’ve always found it easier to cut hits to my right, but that would hit the antenna at OPP. That may be personal preference though. |
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Post by skullars on Oct 7, 2022 12:48:46 GMT -5
on serve receive, does every player have to have each foot within the court before the ball is hit? or can someone be standing out-of-bounds? Very good ques. In every match i've ever played or watched, players just stay on the court. But in FIVB rules at least, I never recall seeing a rule that each member of the receiving team must be on the court. Have definitely seen the rule that the serving team must be in proper rotation, with the server being "off" the court. But even that rule I'm now wondering if it specifically says the serving team must be "on" court. In most sports that have a field of play or court there are definite rules. I'm sure someone will provide the correct answer  |
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Post by widdledumpling on Oct 7, 2022 12:51:56 GMT -5
Thanks to the OP for this thread. Since 2005 I've been reading dozens of dumb questions on Volleytalk every single day. Some of them are my own. It's good that now all the dumb questions will be in one thread. from now on I expect anyone who posts a stupid question in another thread to get permabanned |
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Post by JT on Oct 7, 2022 12:52:16 GMT -5
1) Is there any rule about which middle the libero serves for or could it be either? Like hypothetically if the libero serves for the M2 the one set could they serve for the M1 in the next? 2) This is more speaking as a fan, sometimes broadcasts/box scores show half blocks and sometimes they just say the total blocks. Is there an agreed upon use? Let's say a player has 2 solo blocks and 3 block assists and I come on VT after the game, do I say she had 3.5 blocks or 5? 1) The Libero can replace any player(s) at all, not just the middles, as normally happens. She can serve in place of any one player position (this can vary within a match, but not within a set in the match). When she exits, she must sit out at least one service, except for the time when she is replacing the server. 2) A player is credited with a block for each solo and block assist, so in your example, she has 5 blocks. Only when talking about the points she is credited with scoring, or when adding up the total team blocks, will the block assists get counted as “half” points. |
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Post by mln59 on Oct 7, 2022 12:55:15 GMT -5
i am pretty sure that i never knew that.
edit: seems to be an odd rule
If you didn’t have this rule, the (L) would become the (S) instead of a special DS. but if the setter has to take first contact, then whoever takes the 2nd contact is the "setter" (or at least tries to be one). why does the libero get treated differently than the other players with respect to this particular rule? |
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Post by skullars on Oct 7, 2022 13:01:03 GMT -5
I scanned the pages but didn't see this question but hopes it's not a repeat: I often see a libero on the court when her team is in serve receive. Her team wins the point. The libero then goes back to serve. I assume she is technically subbing out then back in all in one process without leaving the court. What exactly is happening in this instance? not "subbing" let's go with the term used earlier, "replacing". Think of it as a double replacement. In your example in serve receive she is currently replacing the 'back row' middle (A). the 'front row' middle is (B). point is won, team rotates. Middle A rotates to front and comes back in, libero goes out. Middle B rotates to back row and libero replaces them, and serves. Thanks. Makes sense and agree that 'replacement' is more appropriate given it's the libero. |
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