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Post by InfoBot on Jan 27, 2023 19:20:09 GMT -5
I can't think of 10... Here's my 7: TTA, Gabby Gonzales, Milan Gomillion, Onye Ofoegbu, Camryn Hannah, Jess Robinson, Jenaisya Moore (I admittedly don't know too many non-B1G players.) TTA seems to be favoring Florida but Pitt seems to be in the mix as well. Camryn Hannah looks to be headed to Penn State. Gabby Gonzales seems to have interest in Oregon and Pepperdine but Oregon seems to be the favorite. Gonzales to Oregon it is: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cn8BW-Lugmd
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Post by slxpress on Jan 27, 2023 20:12:18 GMT -5
Texas was a much better team before the transfers than PSU was. Texas had transfers who were way better than PSU’s. Texas’s transfers made them the far and above favorite to win a championship. PSU’s gave them the potential to compete for one. It’s also well known that Texas had some scholarship level players not on scholarship and used NIL. PSU has used their scholarships, and just happened to have enough available that they could take in a bunch of transfers. That's reasonable except I would add the reminder that a number of people were picking Nebraska in pre-season. Before the NIL gets too inflated, we had 14 scholarship level players. The 14th was Caffey which seems obvious wasn't on scholarship due to the late timing. I have my guess who was the other player not on a scholarship, but it's just a guess as I could make the argument for others to be that player. IMO it wasn't a transfer, but a returning player. Since you have open ships which I'm assuming is after you include your incoming recruits, you definitely do need some transfers as that indicates holes in the roster. Like the AVCA official poll? Nebraska opened as the #1 team. Texas was #2. I've been told Ewert was the 2nd player not on scholarship. She was great as insurance, but because in hindsight SKT was never pulled for injury or performance, her presence as a non-scholarship player provided no real competitive advantage. She could've, but she didn't. There's this weird assumption that goes on that UT is just paying players loads of NIL cash to come to Texas. It's not true. Hord was the highest paid transfer in the portal last year. Not Fleck, Skinner, Ewert, Caffey, or Bergmark. Texas has a healthy NIL program for where we are in the sport today, but it's been documented the players on the team each received $5k the year before. I doubt the amount has gone up significantly this past season, although certainly some players made more than that. It just seems like there's this fantasy that Texas players are making bank from the NIL collectives. I foresee the numbers rising in the future, but for now I doubt there are many players on the team making 5 digits. Certainly not enough to cover all the costs of attending college at Texas (although there are housing allowances available too, that are available to all players under NCAA rules, and those help). I will say that the players PSU has received as transfers are not quite at the level of Texas last year, but it seemed like there were so many big names last season compared to this past portal window period, that Penn State has stood out in a similar way to Texas. Texas seemed to benefit most from the portal last year. Penn State so far has seemed to benefit from the portal the most this season. We still have the spring to go (and even TTA from this last portal window) so we'll see if the narrative changes this summer.
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Post by topspin on Jan 28, 2023 0:54:23 GMT -5
There's this weird assumption that goes on that UT is just paying players loads of NIL cash to come to Texas. It's not true. Hord was the highest paid transfer in the portal last year. Not Fleck, Skinner, Ewert, Caffey, or Bergmark. This is the EXACTLY the point. Lolololol look at that list of 5 names.
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Post by slxpress on Jan 28, 2023 1:09:13 GMT -5
What's the point, topspin? They're very good players. They wanted an opportunity to win a national championship. Bergmark was good, but not amazing. She was a starter for a very bad California team. Ewert was good, but never provided a competitive advantage on the court. Caffey came at the last second when her opportunities were limited. So Fleck and Skinner. Skinner returned home to her home state. Fleck wanted a chance to win a national championship. What about any of that screams massive NIL payments? If you know of something or you've heard figures thrown around, spit it out. Otherwise you're simply expressing your biases - which you're welcome to possess - but there's no real evidence of NIL payments making the difference with that team. None.
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Post by topspin on Jan 28, 2023 1:12:00 GMT -5
What's the point, topspin? They're very good players. They wanted an opportunity to win a national championship. Bergmark was good, but not amazing. She was a starter for a very bad California team. Ewert was good, but never provided a competitive advantage on the court. Caffey came at the last second when her opportunities were limited. So Fleck and Skinner. Skinner returned home to her home state. Fleck wanted a chance to win a national championship. What about any of that screams massive NIL payments? If you know of something or you've heard figures thrown around, spit it out. Otherwise you're simply expressing your biases - which you're welcome to possess - but there's no real evidence of NIL payments making the difference with that team. None. Yeah sorry that happened. Or good for you. Or whatever.
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Post by slxpress on Jan 28, 2023 1:13:42 GMT -5
What's the point, topspin ? They're very good players. They wanted an opportunity to win a national championship. Bergmark was good, but not amazing. She was a starter for a very bad California team. Ewert was good, but never provided a competitive advantage on the court. Caffey came at the last second when her opportunities were limited. So Fleck and Skinner. Skinner returned home to her home state. Fleck wanted a chance to win a national championship. What about any of that screams massive NIL payments? If you know of something or you've heard figures thrown around, spit it out. Otherwise you're simply expressing your biases - which you're welcome to possess - but there's no real evidence of NIL payments making the difference with that team. None. Yeah sorry that happened. Or good for you. Or whatever. Yep. Whatever indeed. I still have no idea what your point is.
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Post by topspin on Jan 28, 2023 1:16:54 GMT -5
Texas transferred in 3 All-Americans and 2 starters from PAC 12 teams.
I really don’t need to add anything.
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Post by mikevolley on Jan 28, 2023 1:18:09 GMT -5
Camryn Hannah to PSU seems to be the move. PSU is looking to build championship type team! Excited for that plus PSU still has another scholarship to give. Needs to be a middle. Sounds like PSU is building another super team ala Texas 2022. Not excited about the direction these coaches are taking the game. This is just a bad take
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Post by babybacksets on Jan 28, 2023 1:22:47 GMT -5
Sheeesh even the arguments are dry in the off season lol
Wake me up when Andi Jackson bails and transfers to literally anywhere else
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Post by mikevolley on Jan 28, 2023 1:24:32 GMT -5
Sounds like PSU is building another super team ala Texas 2022. Not excited about the direction these coaches are taking the game. This is just a bad take This program lost 4 key players that would go on to help their teams to a FF and/or win high conference recognition at new programs. KSC was able to Leisa and Kash stars in their one year with program. What she did in her first year was inspiring. I don’t like this attempt to complain about Penn state picking up solid players when we have seen other programs do it religiously. Pitt, Nebraska, Texas, and Wisconsin just to name a few. Yes the old way was nice BUT it’s the old way and every program has to adjust. KSC is riding the wave and doing it successful. These pickups just make them more competitive. I’m not crowning anyone champions until I see them on the court.
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Post by babybacksets on Jan 28, 2023 1:28:37 GMT -5
Camryn Hannah to PSU seems to be the move. PSU is looking to build championship type team! Excited for that plus PSU still has another scholarship to give. Needs to be a middle. Sounds like PSU is building another super team ala Texas 2022. Not excited about the direction these coaches are taking the game. Wait who is super on that team? Seems like a few good players and trying to bridge their way towards a hopeful 4 year starter at setter in 2024 isn’t screaming “super team building” to me… Still remains to be seen if the PSU revival will even be able to top last season.
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Post by slxpress on Jan 28, 2023 1:39:32 GMT -5
This program lost 4 key players that would go on to help their teams to a FF and/or win high conference recognition at new programs. KSC was able to Leisa and Kash stars in their one year with program. What she did in her first year was inspiring. I don’t like this attempt to complain about Penn state picking up solid players when we have seen other programs do it religiously. Pitt, Nebraska, Texas, and Wisconsin just to name a few. Yes the old way was nice BUT it’s the old way and every program has to adjust. KSC is riding the wave and doing it successful. These pickups just make them more competitive. I’m not crowning anyone champions until I see them on the court. Never mind Texas. What has Penn State done that USD didn't do? And they were everyone's darling, including mine. Heck, their most valuable player WAS A TRANSFER FROM PENN STATE! Louisville added Lazaro. Pitt had Buzzerio, Dalton, and Gray. Even Cam Ellis saw more court time at the end of the season. If Penn State is in the midst of building a super team, I don't see it. I just see KSC crushing it with the transfers she's targeting, but I don't see the kind of competitive advantage the Final Four teams from last year earned in the portal. At least not yet. Step number one in building a consistent powerhouse program is figuring out how to master talent acquisition. KSC is looking very promising in that regard right now, in only her second year. There's some bitterness and envy going around right now. That's all I'm seeing regarding Penn State. And to make it clear, it isn't that many people. But even the few opining in that direction I do not get where they're coming from.
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Post by slxpress on Jan 28, 2023 1:46:46 GMT -5
Texas transferred in 3 All-Americans and 2 starters from PAC 12 teams. I really don’t need to add anything. No, you don't need to add anything. Other than if you're stating they transferred in because UT paid them. Then you should probably add something, instead of simply inferring it over and over again. You're being disingenuous with your posts, and you're simply speculating because you want it to be true, not because you know something.
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Post by cardcounter on Jan 28, 2023 1:59:41 GMT -5
After the Covid year players work their way through the system, won't the number of transfers drop somewhat?
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Post by babybacksets on Jan 28, 2023 4:32:49 GMT -5
After the Covid year players work their way through the system, won't the number of transfers drop somewhat? Prob not in the B1G. The amount of inter conference team hopping is actually pretty ridiculous.
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