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Post by babybacksets on Jan 28, 2023 4:32:49 GMT -5
After the Covid year players work their way through the system, won't the number of transfers drop somewhat? Prob not in the B1G. The amount of inter conference team hopping is actually pretty ridiculous. |
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Post by rjaege on Jan 28, 2023 7:28:54 GMT -5
After the Covid year players work their way through the system, won't the number of transfers drop somewhat? Prob not in the B1G. The amount of inter conference team hopping is actually pretty ridiculous. Tend to think transfers will lesson some, once 5th year covid graduate players are no more. However, the transfer portal will likely remain active and will remain part of the collegiate recruiting landscape. Players will continue to seek a better fit for their education and/or VB career. Intra-conference transfers within the B1G have become very common in recent years, but especially this year. Part of that is related to Covid graduate transfers and coaching changes. These intra-conference transfers can create challenges for fans, e.g., the recent transfer of Booth from MN to WI. |
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Post by hipsterfilth on Jan 28, 2023 8:36:27 GMT -5
NCAA coaches are using the system the NCAA set up to set themselves up to do their literal jobs (win) as best as they possibly can, groundbreaking.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Jan 28, 2023 10:46:49 GMT -5
People were mad at some schools because they consistently recruited at a high level, taking away high school prospects from YOUR school.
Then, people are mad at the transfer portal and some schools because they continue to recruit at a high level taking away potential transfers to YOUR school as well as taking away established players from YOUR school.
And more, people are made at the NIL because some schools use it to amplify their high school and college recruiting at a high level taking away potential targets from YOUR school.
The rich get richer. But that's always been true.
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Post by cbrown1709 on Jan 28, 2023 11:18:53 GMT -5
People were mad at some schools because they consistently recruited at a high level, taking away high school prospects from YOUR school. Then, people are mad at the transfer portal and some schools because they continue to recruit at a high level taking away potential transfers to YOUR school as well as taking away established players from YOUR school. And more, people are made at the NIL because some schools use it to amplify their high school and college recruiting at a high level taking away potential targets from YOUR school. The rich get richer. But that's always been true.
I do understand the frustration some. Take Beason for example. She wasn't the top recruit coming out of high school. She quickly became a star and the "bright lights" of a better program appears. Whether it NIL money or whatever. It sucks being the coach who found a diamond in the rough and they leave. It's not like Florida hasn't done the same but it's still frustrating. |
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Post by MsRSV on Jan 28, 2023 11:40:06 GMT -5
Sorry if I missed this in the 300 previous pages, but do ya think red shirts will be decreased? It's becomes a big risk to red shirt a player for a developmental year when they can easily leave for that fifth year.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 28, 2023 12:24:42 GMT -5
People were mad at some schools because they consistently recruited at a high level, taking away high school prospects from YOUR school. Then, people are mad at the transfer portal and some schools because they continue to recruit at a high level taking away potential transfers to YOUR school as well as taking away established players from YOUR school. And more, people are made at the NIL because some schools use it to amplify their high school and college recruiting at a high level taking away potential targets from YOUR school. The rich get richer. But that's always been true.
I do understand the frustration some. Take Beason for example. She wasn't the top recruit coming out of high school. She quickly became a star and the "bright lights" of a better program appears. Whether it NIL money or whatever. It sucks being the coach who found a diamond in the rough and they leave. It's not like Florida hasn't done the same but it's still frustrating. not saying I agree but I get your point here. my issue with the portal being so popular is that now actual coaching seems to be less needed. if your team isnt executing well in an area of the game, you can fix it with one or two players for next year who do those things well already and not have to train the players you brought in as highschoolers . recruiting is now even more of a factor. of course there still needs to be tons of coaching, but as a coach you can now just recruit players who are proven to be good at things that you aren't good at coaching. I used to love looking at what coaches do with the talent they have and whether they under / over perform imo, but now they can just put a bunch of players someone else trained and slap their names on the back. not saying I hate the portal as its done great things for my teams, but I do think it takes away a little bit of the value in how well a coach can develop a certain skill(s) |
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Post by comet on Jan 28, 2023 12:34:27 GMT -5
Looks like I hit a chord with some people. Sorry if "super" wasn't the right term. They're still building a team off of transfers (and high quality) and that's what rubs me the wrong way. Maybe PSU won't have as much success as Texas did, but I'm guessing they're going to do pretty well. I'm good with 1-2 transfers to fill gaping holes, but building half your starting team with transfers really bothers me. (I get that I might not have all the facts on PSU's roster and maybe they had many many holes to fill).
Everyone will have their opinion about whether the transfer portal is a good thing or not and we will just have to agree to disagree. The top schools and those benefitting from it will absolutely defend it because it helps their team win. But what about the student-athletes already there, putting in their dues to develop, don't get game-time experience, and then get overrecruited? There are some really good players sitting on the bench. There are some programs that value winning over waiting through the process of developing athletes, and some that value the athletes over winning. (I'm NOT saying some teams don't develop their players, just different priorities)
It's not good for the game of college volleyball (or any sport) for teams to be built of transfers. At some point, is it going to be the same teams developing the players and then the players transferring to the top 2-3 teams to win a natty? How is that good for the sport?
Anyway, I don't really want to argue, this is just my opinion and people are going to disagree with me as is your prerogative. I often counter my own arguments in my head. Lol.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 28, 2023 13:14:46 GMT -5
Onye visited Pitt
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Post by hornshouse23 on Jan 28, 2023 13:20:56 GMT -5
It’s about time we got some good news around here. |
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Post by huskerjen on Jan 28, 2023 13:24:47 GMT -5
But what about the student-athletes already there, putting in their dues to develop, don't get game-time experience, and then get overrecruited? There are some really good players sitting on the bench. College is not just obtaining skills pertinent to a student's future industry of choice, but also to ingrain hard lessons about the real world. No one is owed anything and everyone is replaceable. If the transfer portal, or getting recruited over, is emotionally taxing for a student-athlete, then they better grow a thicker skin. Life gets much tougher once they graduate. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 28, 2023 13:28:40 GMT -5
Erin Carmichael (Jacksonville St libero) is getting interest from Creighton, Illinois, and Nebraska
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Post by huskerfan on Jan 28, 2023 13:32:56 GMT -5
Erin Carmichael (Jacksonville St libero) is getting interest from Creighton, Illinois, and Nebraska How is she? I’d be very much down for a three littles back row in NE. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jan 28, 2023 13:34:43 GMT -5
Looks like I hit a chord with some people. Sorry if "super" wasn't the right term. They're still building a team off of transfers (and high quality) and that's what rubs me the wrong way. Maybe PSU won't have as much success as Texas did, but I'm guessing they're going to do pretty well. I'm good with 1-2 transfers to fill gaping holes, but building half your starting team with transfers really bothers me. (I get that I might not have all the facts on PSU's roster and maybe they had many many holes to fill). Everyone will have their opinion about whether the transfer portal is a good thing or not and we will just have to agree to disagree. The top schools and those benefitting from it will absolutely defend it because it helps their team win. But what about the student-athletes already there, putting in their dues to develop, don't get game-time experience, and then get overrecruited? There are some really good players sitting on the bench. There are some programs that value winning over waiting through the process of developing athletes, and some that value the athletes over winning. (I'm NOT saying some teams don't develop their players, just different priorities) It's not good for the game of college volleyball (or any sport) for teams to be built of transfers. At some point, is it going to be the same teams developing the players and then the players transferring to the top 2-3 teams to win a natty? How is that good for the sport? Anyway, I don't really want to argue, this is just my opinion and people are going to disagree with me as is your prerogative. I often counter my own arguments in my head. Lol. Y'all seem to forget, Portal activity for scholarship players is initiated by *players* choosing to depart in the first instance. If a team has a lot of scholarship player departures, that coach is going to be hitting the Portal and picking up the best players they can get. Duh. What else is a coach supposed to do, leave those spots unfilled? And before anyone jumps in with accusations that coaches are pushing players out in order to free up scholarship spots, no one seems to have presented any proof of that. Not getting playing time (or as much playing time as you would like) isn't the same as being pushed out - it's typically a function of depth on the team and coach making choices. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 28, 2023 13:35:02 GMT -5
Erin Carmichael (Jacksonville St libero) is getting interest from Creighton, Illinois, and Nebraska How is she? I’d be very much down for a three littles back row in NE. She passed 2.34 / 63.7 GP last year |
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