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Post by ay2013 on Mar 14, 2023 17:13:21 GMT -5
A quality role player for ANY team in the county. Agreed. I don’t think grote is gonna come in and out up first team AA numbers, but she’s extremely talented and fills a major hole for most major teams. A very talented player indeed. Other than Stanford, Nebraska, and Wisconsin... MAYBE Texas, though I still don't understand the Phillips hype, I don't see a program that Grote wouldn't challenge for a starting opposite spot. I suppose add Kentucky to that list, but that's more because Rutherford is a dynamic opposite that probably can't play outside at the same level, not because Kentucky is so deep with pins all around that are definitively better than Grote. |
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Post by slxpress on Mar 14, 2023 17:39:28 GMT -5
Agreed. I don’t think grote is gonna come in and out up first team AA numbers, but she’s extremely talented and fills a major hole for most major teams. A very talented player indeed. Other than Stanford, Nebraska, and Wisconsin... MAYBE Texas, though I still don't understand the Phillips hype, I don't see a program that Grote wouldn't challenge for a starting opposite spot. I suppose add Kentucky to that list, but that's more because Rutherford is a dynamic opposite that probably can't play outside at the same level, not because Kentucky is so deep with pins all around that are definitively better than Grote. Phillips hype? Haha. I'm not sure where this Phillips hype comes from. She's 6'5. She's a veteran. She's steady. But some Texas fans have consistently moved her from the starting role on paper. She'll battle Kahahawai for the starting role this fall. I will say I'd rather have her than Grote on the roster, whether Phillips is starting or a backup, but that's as much because she's a good locker room presence and a 5th year veteran in the program. No matter how much court time she sees she'll be a valuable asset on the roster. Nonetheless, the post is about Grote. I thought at first you were giving her a backhanded compliment with your initial post. Personally I look forward to seeing what Grote can do in a program that's not complete wet garbage. It's a bit of a bummer being the best player on such a terrible team. Minnesota sounds like a great fit for her. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Mar 14, 2023 17:49:49 GMT -5
Agreed. I don’t think grote is gonna come in and out up first team AA numbers, but she’s extremely talented and fills a major hole for most major teams. A very talented player indeed. Other than Stanford, Nebraska, and Wisconsin... MAYBE Texas, though I still don't understand the Phillips hype, I don't see a program that Grote wouldn't challenge for a starting opposite spot. I suppose add Kentucky to that list, but that's more because Rutherford is a dynamic opposite that probably can't play outside at the same level, not because Kentucky is so deep with pins all around that are definitively better than Grote. Go back and watch Texas v. San Diego in the 2022 National Semifinal. And then look her up on the NCAA 2022 hitting statistics, where I believe she was either #1 or #2 in national hitting percentage for a non-MB. |
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Post by ay2013 on Mar 14, 2023 18:17:49 GMT -5
Other than Stanford, Nebraska, and Wisconsin... MAYBE Texas, though I still don't understand the Phillips hype, I don't see a program that Grote wouldn't challenge for a starting opposite spot. I suppose add Kentucky to that list, but that's more because Rutherford is a dynamic opposite that probably can't play outside at the same level, not because Kentucky is so deep with pins all around that are definitively better than Grote. Phillips hype? Haha. I'm not sure where this Phillips hype comes from. She's 6'5. She's a veteran. She's steady. But some Texas fans have consistently moved her from the starting role on paper. She'll battle Kahahawai for the starting role this fall. I will say I'd rather have her than Grote on the roster, whether Phillips is starting or a backup, but that's as much because she's a good locker room presence and a 5th year veteran in the program. No matter how much court time she sees she'll be a valuable asset on the roster. Nonetheless, the post is about Grote. I thought at first you were giving her a backhanded compliment with your initial post. Personally I look forward to seeing what Grote can do in a program that's not complete wet garbage. It's a bit of a bummer being the best player on such a terrible team. Minnesota sounds like a great fit for her. Right, the post is about how solid I think Grote is. My point was that I think she's good enough to challenge for a starting spot on almost any team. I DON'T think she's better than players like Kipp (Stanford) or Beason (Nebraska), and MAYBE Phillips, which is what I said in the first post. That already puts Phillips in very high air as far as national opposites are concerned. FWIW, Grote offers a more well rounded opposite than what Phillips brings to the table, but with Texas' overall team structure, they have no use for their opposite to be a potential six rotation player (and neither does Wisconsin), which, again, supports my opionoin that Texas would be on the short list of teams where Grote wouldn't challenge for the opposite spot because I don't think that Grote is on the same level physically at the net that Phillips is. Re the "hype", sometimes, Phillips gets put in the same sentence of the actual best opposites in the country, and then you get some Texas fans that point out her hitting percentage as some concrete proof of that position (see above post). Phillips is not the same caliber of players like Kipp and Beason, or Buzzerio last year, and I have no issue whatsoever saying that. |
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Post by anOPINionATEDbeACH(hookemboo) on Mar 14, 2023 18:47:42 GMT -5
Phillips hype? Haha. I'm not sure where this Phillips hype comes from. She's 6'5. She's a veteran. She's steady. But some Texas fans have consistently moved her from the starting role on paper. She'll battle Kahahawai for the starting role this fall. I will say I'd rather have her than Grote on the roster, whether Phillips is starting or a backup, but that's as much because she's a good locker room presence and a 5th year veteran in the program. No matter how much court time she sees she'll be a valuable asset on the roster. Nonetheless, the post is about Grote. I thought at first you were giving her a backhanded compliment with your initial post. Personally I look forward to seeing what Grote can do in a program that's not complete wet garbage. It's a bit of a bummer being the best player on such a terrible team. Minnesota sounds like a great fit for her. Right, the post is about how solid I think Grote is. My point was that I think she's good enough to challenge for a starting spot on almost any team. I DON'T think she's better than players like Kipp (Stanford) or Beason (Nebraska), and MAYBE Phillips, which is what I said in the first post. That already puts Phillips in very high air as far as national opposites are concerned. FWIW, Grote offers a more well rounded opposite than what Phillips brings to the table, but with Texas' overall team structure, they have no use for their opposite to be a potential six rotation player (and neither does Wisconsin), which, again, supports my opionoin that Texas would be on the short list of teams where Grote wouldn't challenge for the opposite spot because I don't think that Grote is on the same level physically at the net that Phillips is. Re the "hype", sometimes, Phillips gets put in the same sentence of the actual best opposites in the country, and then you get some Texas fans that point out her hitting percentage as some concrete proof of that position (see above post). Phillips is not the same caliber of players like Kipp and Beason, or Buzzerio last year, and I have no issue whatsoever saying that. I'm sorry, but who is out here saying Molly is one of the best opposites out there?? Majority knows molly is solid, consistent, & low error. But she isn't a true opposite and rarely takes out of system swings, she is a versatile player though and is one of the best in the country at that. Nobody is calling Molly the best opposite out here or comparing her to 3 you named. |
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Post by topspin on Mar 14, 2023 19:06:02 GMT -5
Right, the post is about how solid I think Grote is. My point was that I think she's good enough to challenge for a starting spot on almost any team. I DON'T think she's better than players like Kipp (Stanford) or Beason (Nebraska), and MAYBE Phillips, which is what I said in the first post. That already puts Phillips in very high air as far as national opposites are concerned. FWIW, Grote offers a more well rounded opposite than what Phillips brings to the table, but with Texas' overall team structure, they have no use for their opposite to be a potential six rotation player (and neither does Wisconsin), which, again, supports my opionoin that Texas would be on the short list of teams where Grote wouldn't challenge for the opposite spot because I don't think that Grote is on the same level physically at the net that Phillips is. Re the "hype", sometimes, Phillips gets put in the same sentence of the actual best opposites in the country, and then you get some Texas fans that point out her hitting percentage as some concrete proof of that position (see above post). Phillips is not the same caliber of players like Kipp and Beason, or Buzzerio last year, and I have no issue whatsoever saying that. I'm sorry, but who is out here saying Molly is one of the best opposites out there?? Majority knows molly is solid, consistent, & low error. But she isn't a true opposite and rarely takes out of system swings, she is a versatile player though and is one of the best in the country at that. Nobody is calling Molly the best opposite out here or comparing her to 3 you named. The point was that Texas is so good, it might be one of the only programs that wouldn’t think Grote is an upgrade. 🙄 Calm your tits. |
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Post by slxpress on Mar 14, 2023 19:26:25 GMT -5
Phillips hype? Haha. I'm not sure where this Phillips hype comes from. She's 6'5. She's a veteran. She's steady. But some Texas fans have consistently moved her from the starting role on paper. She'll battle Kahahawai for the starting role this fall. I will say I'd rather have her than Grote on the roster, whether Phillips is starting or a backup, but that's as much because she's a good locker room presence and a 5th year veteran in the program. No matter how much court time she sees she'll be a valuable asset on the roster. Nonetheless, the post is about Grote. I thought at first you were giving her a backhanded compliment with your initial post. Personally I look forward to seeing what Grote can do in a program that's not complete wet garbage. It's a bit of a bummer being the best player on such a terrible team. Minnesota sounds like a great fit for her. Re the "hype", sometimes, Phillips gets put in the same sentence of the actual best opposites in the country, and then you get some Texas fans that point out her hitting percentage as some concrete proof of that position (see above post). Phillips is not the same caliber of players like Kipp and Beason, or Buzzerio last year, and I have no issue whatsoever saying that. Yeah, I have no issue in you saying that, either. I just don't think of her as getting hyped. And I don't think of enthusiastic Molly stans as evidence for it. But that's my impression. You're obviously entitled to your's. Thanks for the clarification. |
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Post by huskergopher on Mar 15, 2023 17:05:03 GMT -5
Personally, I feel like I always think of Phillips as the "weak link" in the Texas front row, but then I actually WATCH her and she puts balls away, rarely ever errors, blocks well, and is, overall, fantastic. She just doesn't put up huge KPS numbers and is a pretty low-key presence on the court, so I think I underrate her. Plus, she seems like a really great person and it's obvious everyone who plays with her adores her.
TL;DR Molly is great, lots of people just sleep on her because Texas has so many bigger names.
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Post by anOPINionATEDbeACH(hookemboo) on Mar 15, 2023 19:55:01 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but who is out here saying Molly is one of the best opposites out there?? Majority knows molly is solid, consistent, & low error. But she isn't a true opposite and rarely takes out of system swings, she is a versatile player though and is one of the best in the country at that. Nobody is calling Molly the best opposite out here or comparing her to 3 you named. The point was that Texas is so good, it might be one of the only programs that wouldn’t think Grote is an upgrade. 🙄 Calm your tits. Never responded to that. I responded to the part about Molly always being compared to Kipp, Beason, & buzzerio. So No....... |
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Post by alaskanbullworm on Mar 17, 2023 7:48:09 GMT -5
Phillips is... fine. But now that Eggelston is no long going to be taking out the "trash" I think there will be a need for a more umm "traditional" RS.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Mar 17, 2023 11:54:23 GMT -5
Phillips is... fine. But now that Eggelston is no long going to be taking out the "trash" I think there will be a need for a more umm "traditional" RS. Because Texas has, historically, had mediocre passing we've always been "taking out the trash". Those that are capable rise to the starting spot. Nothing new. |
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Post by alaskanbullworm on Mar 17, 2023 17:34:53 GMT -5
Phillips is... fine. But now that Eggelston is no long going to be taking out the "trash" I think there will be a need for a more umm "traditional" RS. Because Texas has, historically, had mediocre passing we've always been "taking out the trash". Those that are capable rise to the starting spot. Nothing new. Yes, Texas passing has always been... something. But even with Fleck, Phillips still received 99.9% perfect passes. With Fleck and Eggleston gone Texas needs someone who has more than a snail paced cross court shot and a 3in vertical. Unless they wanna wait another 10yrs for a NC. That's what I'm getting at. I should have worded it better. |
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Post by douglass9 on Mar 19, 2023 16:19:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the info on Grote. Who do you want on your team Murr or McGraw?
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Post by Fight On! on Mar 19, 2023 19:12:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the info on Grote. Who do you want on your team Murr or McGraw? They’re very similar. More “dig-ero” than “pass-ero”. I think it’s a wash. |
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Post by madden55 on Mar 19, 2023 20:03:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the info on Grote. Who do you want on your team Murr or McGraw? They’re very similar. More “dig-ero” than “pass-ero”. I think it’s a wash. nah mcgraw became a very solid passer by her senior year. Murr is a much better defender and Mcgraw a better passer |
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