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Post by Sunnydaze on Jan 18, 2023 19:03:47 GMT -5
begs the question, a Player could actually play indoor for one team, then beach for another, by simply transferring every semester until they graduate !!! No - the most recent rule requires NCAA waiver for the second transfer (and onwards). IIRC the reasons for the waiver must be one of (i) coaching change, (ii) loss of scholarship, or (iii) exigent circumstances (physical injury/mental health/victim of abuse). Otherwise they need to sit a year. So would she have to get a waiver to play beach this season at FSU? Or is beach volleyball considered a different sport, so no waiver is needed?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 18, 2023 19:37:55 GMT -5
No - the most recent rule requires NCAA waiver for the second transfer (and onwards). IIRC the reasons for the waiver must be one of (i) coaching change, (ii) loss of scholarship, or (iii) exigent circumstances (physical injury/mental health/victim of abuse). Otherwise they need to sit a year. So would she have to get a waiver to play beach this season at FSU? Or is beach volleyball considered a different sport, so no waiver is needed? Different sport.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 18, 2023 19:50:11 GMT -5
or...
can a girl accept two schollies, with two LOIs, to two universities. Attend Univ. A in fall, and Attend Univ. B in Spring. Play indoor at A, Beach at B.
what is wrong with that?
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jan 18, 2023 20:34:33 GMT -5
No - the most recent rule requires NCAA waiver for the second transfer (and onwards). IIRC the reasons for the waiver must be one of (i) coaching change, (ii) loss of scholarship, or (iii) exigent circumstances (physical injury/mental health/victim of abuse). Otherwise they need to sit a year. so if the coaches revoke the scholllie at the end of each semester, it's possible! I mean, what would motivate a coach to go along with this scheme? No continuity, no team-building, bad precedent and a lot of paperwork to boot.
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Post by stevehorn on Jan 19, 2023 10:13:50 GMT -5
or... can a girl accept two schollies, with two LOIs, to two universities. Attend Univ. A in fall, and Attend Univ. B in Spring. Play indoor at A, Beach at B. what is wrong with that? Rules prevent this. Also I couldn't imagine any school agreeing to this on an academic basis, much less athletic.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 19, 2023 10:53:01 GMT -5
or... can a girl accept two schollies, with two LOIs, to two universities. Attend Univ. A in fall, and Attend Univ. B in Spring. Play indoor at A, Beach at B. what is wrong with that? Rules prevent this. Also I couldn't imagine any school agreeing to this on an academic basis, much less athletic. The point is in the professional sports era which college now is pay for play, if Bo Jackson csn play baseball for one team and football for another , why not? A person cant be enrolled in two universities at the same time? Well why not? It s their educations. Alternating attending fall at one. and spring at another? Why not? In an age on free agency it s restricting a student. Your answer is a rule, my response is that s a bad rule. They shoukd be able ti play indoor at A and Beach at B. could easily anend the rules, and keep in place transfer rules applied to each respective sport.
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Post by stevehorn on Jan 19, 2023 11:29:11 GMT -5
Rules prevent this. Also I couldn't imagine any school agreeing to this on an academic basis, much less athletic. The point is in the professional sports era which college now is pay for play, if Bo Jackson csn play baseball for one team and football for another , why not? A person cant be enrolled in two universities at the same time? Well why not? It s their educations. Alternating attending fall at one. and spring at another? Why not? In an age on free agency it s restricting a student. Your answer is a rule, my response is that s a bad rule. They shoukd be able ti play indoor at A and Beach at B. could easily anend the rules, and keep in place transfer rules applied to each respective sport. Keep on living in your personal fantasy land.
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Post by jcvball22 on Jan 19, 2023 11:40:40 GMT -5
Rules prevent this. Also I couldn't imagine any school agreeing to this on an academic basis, much less athletic. The point is in the professional sports era which college now is pay for play, if Bo Jackson csn play baseball for one team and football for another , why not? A person cant be enrolled in two universities at the same time? Well why not? It s their educations. Alternating attending fall at one. and spring at another? Why not? In an age on free agency it s restricting a student. Your answer is a rule, my response is that s a bad rule. They shoukd be able ti play indoor at A and Beach at B. could easily anend the rules, and keep in place transfer rules applied to each respective sport. Because you still need to show progress towards a degree to be eligible? Credits don't necessarily transfer between schools, especially if alternating semesters. And just a reminder: Bo Jackson was the exception, not the rule. And you had to go how far back to find an example? Most kids today have never even heard of Bo Jackson. I mean, no matter what you think about "pay for play" in college sports (or whatever you're calling it) the point of playing in sports at the college level is still: SCHOOL. It's to get a college degree. Given the limited professional opportunities in our sport, that still should be the focus. Now, they can also get paid for their skills, which brings them in line with general students and their ability to use their skills for profit while attending college. It's basically work-study with better pay than usual.
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Post by dc155 on Jan 19, 2023 15:01:15 GMT -5
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Post by dc155 on Jan 19, 2023 15:29:48 GMT -5
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 19, 2023 16:24:11 GMT -5
The point is in the professional sports era which college now is pay for play, if Bo Jackson csn play baseball for one team and football for another , why not? A person cant be enrolled in two universities at the same time? Well why not? It s their educations. Alternating attending fall at one. and spring at another? Why not? In an age on free agency it s restricting a student. Your answer is a rule, my response is that s a bad rule. They shoukd be able ti play indoor at A and Beach at B. could easily anend the rules, and keep in place transfer rules applied to each respective sport. Because you still need to show progress towards a degree to be eligible? Credits don't necessarily transfer between schools, especially if alternating semesters. And just a reminder: Bo Jackson was the exception, not the rule. And you had to go how far back to find an example? Most kids today have never even heard of Bo Jackson. I mean, no matter what you think about "pay for play" in college sports (or whatever you're calling it) the point of playing in sports at the college level is still: SCHOOL. It's to get a college degree. Given the limited professional opportunities in our sport, that still should be the focus. Now, they can also get paid for their skills, which brings them in line with general students and their ability to use their skills for profit while attending college. It's basically work-study with better pay than usual. Im not proposing anything that comflicts with progress to a degree, It really would not I get the NCAA and people can creat roadblocks in their mind. Given the proliferation of xfers, the nil rules, the idea of what im suggesting really is not unreasonable for a two sport athlete, of which therecarent too many
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 19, 2023 16:25:30 GMT -5
The point is in the professional sports era which college now is pay for play, if Bo Jackson csn play baseball for one team and football for another , why not? A person cant be enrolled in two universities at the same time? Well why not? It s their educations. Alternating attending fall at one. and spring at another? Why not? In an age on free agency it s restricting a student. Your answer is a rule, my response is that s a bad rule. They shoukd be able ti play indoor at A and Beach at B. could easily anend the rules, and keep in place transfer rules applied to each respective sport. Keep on living in your personal fantasy land. Jeez, keep being a stick in the mud. Have a sense of humor, lol
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Post by rjaege on Jan 19, 2023 16:33:46 GMT -5
Because you still need to show progress towards a degree to be eligible? Credits don't necessarily transfer between schools, especially if alternating semesters. And just a reminder: Bo Jackson was the exception, not the rule. And you had to go how far back to find an example? Most kids today have never even heard of Bo Jackson. I mean, no matter what you think about "pay for play" in college sports (or whatever you're calling it) the point of playing in sports at the college level is still: SCHOOL. It's to get a college degree. Given the limited professional opportunities in our sport, that still should be the focus. Now, they can also get paid for their skills, which brings them in line with general students and their ability to use their skills for profit while attending college. It's basically work-study with better pay than usual. Im not proposing anything that comflicts with progress to a degree, It really would not I get the NCAA and people can creat roadblocks in their mind. Given the proliferation of xfers, the nil rules, the idea of what im suggesting really is not unreasonable for a two sport athlete, of which therecarent too many Transferring every other semester would interfere with getting a degree.
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Post by stevehorn on Jan 19, 2023 16:51:51 GMT -5
Keep on living in your personal fantasy land. Jeez, keep being a stick in the mud. Have a sense of humor, lol I do have one when something is actually humorous. And quit pretending that it was a joke.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 19, 2023 16:53:58 GMT -5
Im not proposing anything that comflicts with progress to a degree, It really would not I get the NCAA and people can creat roadblocks in their mind. Given the proliferation of xfers, the nil rules, the idea of what im suggesting really is not unreasonable for a two sport athlete, of which therecarent too many Transferring every other semester would interfere with getting a degree. it could potentially DELAY getting a certain degree, HOWEVER depending on the the student who btw would be taking coursework at respective universities EVERY Semester, and possibly summers so the education of said student would be CONTINUOUS I hardly would characterize that as 'interfering' with getting a degree, or 'interfering' with education....and isnt education the goal so depending on a definition of goals, it does not have to be a situation of 'interfering' with a degree. Universities do transfer credits, they have for years!!! another 'myth' refuted!!!
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