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Post by slxpress on Dec 6, 2022 12:35:12 GMT -5
I'm only here because I needed to cleanse my eyes with some *civil* discussion after reading thru 67 pages of ABSOLUTE CHAOS on the LSU vs Hawaii thread omg wth was that lol Oh? I'm sure it's those rowdy LSU fans. They just take over the board at times.
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Post by tinboat on Dec 6, 2022 12:45:30 GMT -5
Seems most think this match is Oregon's due to the loss of Knuckles and Nebraska's top 10 record and how they played VS KU. I expect that NU fixes the defensive hole that KU exploited in sets 3 and 4 (remember that sets 1 and 2 were not competitive at all). The NU block will happen I expect, as the Minn (13 blocks VS Oregon) and Penn state (17 blocks vs Oregon) blocking did earlier in the year. 14 times this year Neb block was > 3 per set, average is 2.8. I expect NU will have that again in this match (over 3 per set). Oregon can't win if they don't swing, Nebraska will get their blocks, they are tall.
The key to me though is the Oregon block. NU had > 3 blocks per set in 3 of their 5 losses. So more to do what Oregon does on blocking than NU. I expect the match to be tight, if Oregon can average 3 blocks per set, then I expect Oregon to pull out the match. Nebraska has been blocked at over 3 blocks per set 8 times this year, including all 5 losses. Remember the National Title game a year ago. Wisc 24 blocks Nebr 10. All 5 sets were decided by 3 points or less. This group of Nebraska hitters, when they get blocked they tip a lot and tend to lose more than they win. The blocking numbers against NU are also part of how the setters are playing. If Nebr is getting blocked a lot, the setting is struggling. How Oregon blocks will decide this tight match.
I think Nebraska wins in 4. Oregon is not a great blocking team (2.3 per set). Kansas was at 2.7 on the year and 13 in 4 sets VS Nebraska and made it interesting. I don't expect Oregon to block at the magic 3 per set average, and with that Nebraska gets the win 3 sets to 1. I do expect it to be very competitive.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2022 12:45:36 GMT -5
I'm only here because I needed to cleanse my eyes with some *civil* discussion after reading thru 67 pages of ABSOLUTE CHAOS on the LSU vs Hawaii thread omg wth was that lol Oh? I'm sure it's those rowdy LSU fans. They just take over the board at times. LMAO yeah those darn LSU fans are just too much sometimes
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Post by B1GHuskerGuy on Dec 6, 2022 12:46:24 GMT -5
I'm only here because I needed to cleanse my eyes with some *civil* discussion after reading thru 67 pages of ABSOLUTE CHAOS on the LSU vs Hawaii thread omg wth was that lol Honestly that thread gave me life lol. Gave me C level reality TV drama vibes - like the kind you make fun of with your friends but secretly watch with enjoyment haha
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Post by B1GHuskerGuy on Dec 6, 2022 12:49:39 GMT -5
Seems most think this match is Oregon's due to the loss of Knuckles and Nebraska's top 10 record and how they played VS KU. I expect that NU fixes the defensive hole that KU exploited in sets 3 and 4 (remember that sets 1 and 2 were not competitive at all). The NU block will happen I expect, as the Minn (13 blocks VS Oregon) and Penn state (17 blocks vs Oregon) blocking did earlier in the year. 14 times this year Neb block was > 3 per set, average is 2.8. I expect NU will have that again in this match (over 3 per set). Oregon can't win if they don't swing, Nebraska will get their blocks, they are tall. The key to me though is the Oregon block. NU had > 3 blocks per set in 3 of their 5 losses. So more to do what Oregon does on blocking than NU. I expect the match to be tight, if Oregon can average 3 blocks per set, then I expect Oregon to pull out the match. Nebraska has been blocked at over 3 blocks per set 8 ties this year, including all 5 losses. Remember the National Title game a year ago. Wisc 24 blocks Nebr 10. All 5 sets were decided by 3 points or less. This group of Nebraska hitters, when they get blocked they tip a lot and tend to lose more than they win. The blocking numbers against NU are also part of how the setters are playing. If Nebr is getting blocked a lot, the setting is struggling. How Oregon blocks will decide this tight match. I think Nebraska wins in 4. Oregon is not a great blocking team (2.3 per set). Kansas was at 2.7 on the year and 13 in 4 sets VS Nebraska and made it interesting. I don't expect Oregon to block at the magic 3 per set average, and with the Nebraska gets the win 3 sets to 1. I do expect it to be very competitive. Agreed. And to avoid some of that blocking, Nebraska's setters need to pull out some postseason magic and put their hitters in good positions and the hitters need to be terminal when give the opportunity.
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Post by wcdiggs on Dec 6, 2022 12:51:11 GMT -5
Those hitters hit .193 in the tournament last year.
I have so much respect for Nebraska's run last year -- it was a masterclass of serve and pass -- but it wasn't because of their pins.
Kubik was 3rd team All-American last year and 2-time honorable mention All-American. She is a 2-time First team All B1G and 1-time 2nd team All B1G plus B1G freshman of the year. Krause hit .293 in the 4 matches that were the 2 Regionals, Semifinal and Championship game last year and .436 if you don't count the Wisconsin match. I doubt anyone would have had much success against that Wisconsin team. Kubik's career speaks for itself and Krause's .271 hitting pct. this year playing in the B1G is more impressive than Colyer's .271 and Nuneviller's .293 playing in the Pac12. Oregon did play 2 B1G teams this year and Nuneviller's hitting pct. against them was .162 and Colyer's was .097. Comparing Hitting Percentages for players playing in the Pac 12 or Big 12 against the B1G is an apples to oranges comparison. I’ll take Nuneviller and Colyer’s .293 and .271 any day considering they both take 2x the swings per set that Krause does and they both play 6rotations, whereas I can count on one hand the number of SETS Krause has done that
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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 6, 2022 12:58:06 GMT -5
Kubik was 3rd team All-American last year and 2-time honorable mention All-American. She is a 2-time First team All B1G and 1-time 2nd team All B1G plus B1G freshman of the year. Krause hit .293 in the 4 matches that were the 2 Regionals, Semifinal and Championship game last year and .436 if you don't count the Wisconsin match. I doubt anyone would have had much success against that Wisconsin team. Kubik's career speaks for itself and Krause's .271 hitting pct. this year playing in the B1G is more impressive than Colyer's .271 and Nuneviller's .293 playing in the Pac12. Oregon did play 2 B1G teams this year and Nuneviller's hitting pct. against them was .162 and Colyer's was .097. Comparing Hitting Percentages for players playing in the Pac 12 or Big 12 against the B1G is an apples to oranges comparison. I’ll take Nuneviller and Colyer’s .293 and .271 any day considering they both take 2x the swings per set that Krause does and they both play 6rotations, whereas I can count on one hand the number of SETS Krause has done that yep, it's funny that they mentioned the conferences being apples to oranges, but not the fact that Krause is a three-rotation right side who only gets set in system compared to two outsides who are sent every out of system ball, not even to mention all of the various back row attacks. THAT'S apples to oranges.
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Post by tinboat on Dec 6, 2022 12:58:43 GMT -5
Seems most think this match is Oregon's due to the loss of Knuckles and Nebraska's top 10 record and how they played VS KU. I expect that NU fixes the defensive hole that KU exploited in sets 3 and 4 (remember that sets 1 and 2 were not competitive at all). The NU block will happen I expect, as the Minn (13 blocks VS Oregon) and Penn state (17 blocks vs Oregon) blocking did earlier in the year. 14 times this year Neb block was > 3 per set, average is 2.8. I expect NU will have that again in this match (over 3 per set). Oregon can't win if they don't swing, Nebraska will get their blocks, they are tall. The key to me though is the Oregon block. NU had > 3 blocks per set in 3 of their 5 losses. So more to do what Oregon does on blocking than NU. I expect the match to be tight, if Oregon can average 3 blocks per set, then I expect Oregon to pull out the match. Nebraska has been blocked at over 3 blocks per set 8 ties this year, including all 5 losses. Remember the National Title game a year ago. Wisc 24 blocks Nebr 10. All 5 sets were decided by 3 points or less. This group of Nebraska hitters, when they get blocked they tip a lot and tend to lose more than they win. The blocking numbers against NU are also part of how the setters are playing. If Nebr is getting blocked a lot, the setting is struggling. How Oregon blocks will decide this tight match. I think Nebraska wins in 4. Oregon is not a great blocking team (2.3 per set). Kansas was at 2.7 on the year and 13 in 4 sets VS Nebraska and made it interesting. I don't expect Oregon to block at the magic 3 per set average, and with the Nebraska gets the win 3 sets to 1. I do expect it to be very competitive. Agreed. And to avoid some of that blocking, Nebraska's setters need to pull out some postseason magic and put their hitters in good positions and the hitters need to be terminal when give the opportunity. Oregon reached the magic 3 blocks per set 10 times this year. They were 10-0 in those matches.
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Post by tinboat on Dec 6, 2022 13:05:07 GMT -5
Agreed. And to avoid some of that blocking, Nebraska's setters need to pull out some postseason magic and put their hitters in good positions and the hitters need to be terminal when give the opportunity. Oregon reached the magic 3 blocks per set 10 times this year. They were 10-0 in those matches. Only the Minn and Penn St matches did opponents reach the 3 blocks per set against Oregon. Average was only 1.7.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Dec 6, 2022 13:27:00 GMT -5
Oregon reached the magic 3 blocks per set 10 times this year. They were 10-0 in those matches. Only the Minn and Penn St matches did opponents reach the 3 blocks per set against Oregon. Average was only 1.7. So 2 of the 3 teams that Oregon played who are still in the tourney?
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Post by vollectator on Dec 6, 2022 13:34:14 GMT -5
Oh? I'm sure it's those rowdy LSU fans. They just take over the board at times. LMAO yeah those darn LSU fans are just too much sometimes both of them are passionate about their team at least. i don't know about the Hawaiian fans.
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Post by donut on Dec 6, 2022 13:49:22 GMT -5
Wtf is the magic "3 blocks per set" number
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 6, 2022 13:57:30 GMT -5
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 6, 2022 13:58:32 GMT -5
Only the Minn and Penn St matches did opponents reach the 3 blocks per set against Oregon. Average was only 1.7. So 2 of the 3 teams that Oregon played who are still in the tourney?
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Post by stanfordvb on Dec 6, 2022 14:38:56 GMT -5
I’ll take Nuneviller and Colyer’s .293 and .271 any day considering they both take 2x the swings per set that Krause does and they both play 6rotations, whereas I can count on one hand the number of SETS Krause has done that yep, it's funny that they mentioned the conferences being apples to oranges, but not the fact that Krause is a three-rotation right side who only gets set in system compared to two outsides who are sent every out of system ball, not even to mention all of the various back row attacks. THAT'S apples to oranges. also, teams are focusing more on stopping production from kubik and lauenstein than Krause, whereas Nuneviller and Colyer are #1 and #2 on the list of who opponents are trying to stop against oregon. I think its also clear that both of them are just better than Krause is. there's no coach in the ncaa who starts Krause over either of them
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