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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 11:58:41 GMT -5
Lmfao. Grome is not “one of the best blocking setters in the country”
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Post by 4theloveofvb on Apr 11, 2023 12:04:29 GMT -5
Gabby Blossom got "beyond abused" all the way to a 31-2 record and a final four appearance.
Size and blocking are a small fraction of a setter's value. Give me location, tempo, decision making, OOS opportunities, leadership, serving, and defense all before blocking as a necessary skill to predict setter value.
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Post by stanfordvb on Apr 11, 2023 12:10:51 GMT -5
Gabby Blossom got "beyond abused" all the way to a 31-2 record and a final four appearance. Back to my original point, size and blocking are a small fraction of a setter's value. Give me location, tempo, decision making, OOS opportunities, leadership, serving, and defense all before blocking as a necessary skill to predict setter value. my point about blossom isn't incorrect tho. obviously that was a stacked team that was very good in all facets of the game. but to say she didn't get consistently targeted (with success) would be silly. probably the best pure setter in the country last year, but also far and away the worst blocker out of the top teams. do you think she wasn't abused all year? |
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Post by donut on Apr 11, 2023 12:52:56 GMT -5
Gabby Blossom got "beyond abused" all the way to a 31-2 record and a final four appearance. Back to my original point, size and blocking are a small fraction of a setter's value. Give me location, tempo, decision making, OOS opportunities, leadership, serving, and defense all before blocking as a necessary skill to predict setter value. but to say she didn't get consistently targeted (with success) would be silly. Maybe not "consistently," but Grome definitely got targeted with success last year often as well. |
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Post by donut on Apr 11, 2023 12:53:41 GMT -5
Gabby Blossom got "beyond abused" all the way to a 31-2 record and a final four appearance. Back to my original point, size and blocking are a small fraction of a setter's value. Give me location, tempo, decision making, OOS opportunities, leadership, serving, and defense all before blocking as a necessary skill to predict setter value. That wasn't your original point, but ok lol |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 12:55:48 GMT -5
but to say she didn't get consistently targeted (with success) would be silly. Maybe not "consistently," but Grome definitely got targeted with success last year often as well. and who could forget how absolutely destroyed she got by Raina Terry in 2021. As much as I try to forget I can not |
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Post by 2Close4Missiles on Apr 11, 2023 14:05:29 GMT -5
Yeah but that game was an all-systems failure, a 6ft setter wouldn't have helped. The whole team buckled.
Fwiw, I can't see a 6-2 either and I don't envision Grome getting beat out. Goetz is good offensively, I think if she loses her starting spot it'll be because of her blocking, and if that's the case, I think Williams would most likely win it.
For me the big question this season is which 2 outsides step up. Guessing Lamb and Wilson start the year, do they solidify their spots or do Melby/DeLeye play their way in by November?
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Post by wildcat403 on Apr 11, 2023 14:16:51 GMT -5
Yeah but that game was an all-systems failure, a 6ft setter wouldn't have helped. The whole team buckled. Fwiw, I can't see a 6-2 either and I don't envision Grome getting beat out. Goetz is good offensively, I think if she loses her starting spot it'll be because of her blocking, and if that's the case, I think Williams would most likely win it. For me the big question this season is which 2 outsides step up. Guessing Lamb and Wilson start the year, do they solidify their spots or do Melby/DeLeye play their way in by November? Lamb has had a really nice spring and seems like she’s focused in the weight room this off-season to give her another gear. She has a powerful swing so really hoping she takes control of that position with Wilson, Melby, and Deleye all competing for time as well. Wilson has a great serve so I’m sure that will factor in too. |
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Post by donut on Apr 11, 2023 14:16:53 GMT -5
Yeah but that game was an all-systems failure, a 6ft setter wouldn't have helped. The whole team buckled. Fwiw, I can't see a 6-2 either and I don't envision Grome getting beat out. Goetz is good offensively, I think if she loses her starting spot it'll be because of her blocking, and if that's the case, I think Williams would most likely win it. For me the big question this season is which 2 outsides step up. Guessing Lamb and Wilson start the year, do they solidify their spots or do Melby/DeLeye play their way in by November? I think Skinner should start Wilson/DeLeye from Day 1. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 14:19:38 GMT -5
Yeah but that game was an all-systems failure, a 6ft setter wouldn't have helped. The whole team buckled. Fwiw, I can't see a 6-2 either and I don't envision Grome getting beat out. Goetz is good offensively, I think if she loses her starting spot it'll be because of her blocking, and if that's the case, I think Williams would most likely win it. For me the big question this season is which 2 outsides step up. Guessing Lamb and Wilson start the year, do they solidify their spots or do Melby/DeLeye play their way in by November? I think Skinner should start Wilson/DeLeye from Day 1. to be honest every Kentucky fan should hope it’s DeLeye starting day 1. Like you said earlier she’s our biggest key. We have STUDS everywhere else. If DeLeye is as good as advertised we are a final four caliber team with a TON of depth all around the dial. |
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Post by OHVBKING on Apr 11, 2023 15:14:24 GMT -5
Lmfao. Grome is not “one of the best blocking setters in the country” statistics speak otherwise. the numbers don't lie. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 15:19:13 GMT -5
Lmfao. Grome is not “one of the best blocking setters in the country” statistics speak otherwise. the numbers don't lie. lmfao okay |
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Post by donut on Apr 11, 2023 16:37:24 GMT -5
Lmfao. Grome is not “one of the best blocking setters in the country” statistics speak otherwise. the numbers don't lie. Numbers don't lie.
Arguments made using those numbers can lie however.
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Post by jwvolley on Apr 11, 2023 16:45:02 GMT -5
statistics speak otherwise. the numbers don't lie. Numbers don't lie.
Arguments made using those numbers can lie however.
Lmaoo I’m having next level deja vu to a specific exchange between you and Bwf back in the day |
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Post by 4theloveofvb on Apr 11, 2023 17:48:10 GMT -5
More than anything, the SEC Coaches named her the Player of the Year. Those are the people that play against her, attempt to game plan against her, study her, etc. and they chose her the Player of the Year.
The numbers do tell a story. Numbers can be angled to tell a certain story but assists per set, blocks per set, digs per set, offensive efficiency and all other metrics tell the story of an All-American player.
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