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Post by eazy on Dec 13, 2022 11:35:19 GMT -5
Okay, I found an article on Sports Business. They're launching after the 2024 Paris Olympics. mess. I hope you get reimbursed for doing 95% of their PR work for them. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 13, 2022 12:01:27 GMT -5
Okay, I found an article on Sports Business. They're launching after the 2024 Paris Olympics. mess. I hope you get reimbursed for doing 95% of their PR work for them. I don’t think me calling them a mess every post is good PR work lol |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 13, 2022 12:19:23 GMT -5
If LOVB doesn't have their plan, and especially finances, together, they should soon consider just ditching their own league, and become owners of one or more franchises in the Fed League. If they're really invested in their own model, they can use their position to influence the structure and operation towards something more in line with their vision. Otherwise, with all these pro start-ups around at the same time, it will just dilute the support and likelihood of success for any one of them. the problem is no one is going to be willing to give up their slice of the pie. Combining LOVB's vision (and club resources) with the realism of PVF (wanting a regular league with owners, based in established locations) seems like the best fit. AU can be its own "fun" thing. But will we ever see that? Probably not... LOVB being league owned (and not having franchises/teams/whatever) is going to be its downfall.... the club model just doesnt seem to be successful with the NCAA being present.. overseas they dont have that. |
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 13, 2022 12:31:11 GMT -5
If LOVB doesn't have their plan, and especially finances, together, they should soon consider just ditching their own league, and become owners of one or more franchises in the Fed League. If they're really invested in their own model, they can use their position to influence the structure and operation towards something more in line with their vision. Otherwise, with all these pro start-ups around at the same time, it will just dilute the support and likelihood of success for any one of them. the problem is no one is going to be willing to give up their slice of the pie. Combining LOVB's vision (and club resources) with the realism of PVF (wanting a regular league with owners, based in established locations) seems like the best fit. AU can be its own "fun" thing. But will we ever see that? Probably not... LOVB being league owned (and not having franchises/teams/whatever) is going to be its downfall.... the club model just doesnt seem to be successful with the NCAA being present.. overseas they dont have that. Agreed. Ultimately, the "market" will decide which of these ventures is more successful and which will survive. But the Fed has maneuvered themselves into the driver's seat by announcing some concrete plans and getting a foothold in place earlier than LOVB. I'm sure they all recognize this, and it will be a matter of how/if LOVB adjusts or pivots and vice versa. I'm not the biggest fan of the Fed's current structure, but it seems more viable and realistic than LOVB. If given the option of cooperating or playing it out to see who survives, I'd rather they found a way to cooperate, or coordinate their resources. |
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Post by jackson5vb on Dec 13, 2022 12:41:31 GMT -5
does anyone know their league format? please don't let it be like AU.
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Post by eazy on Dec 13, 2022 12:44:04 GMT -5
I hope you get reimbursed for doing 95% of their PR work for them. I don’t think me calling them a mess every post is good PR work lol What's that phrase..? There's no such thing as bad publicity? Even bad press is good press? Something is better than nothing. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 13, 2022 13:14:13 GMT -5
I wonder how much dues are going up for all the 12s teams at LOVB's clubs to finance this.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 13, 2022 14:46:56 GMT -5
Would y’all want the American leagues to run somewhat at the same time as NCAA season or opposite?
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 13, 2022 14:48:53 GMT -5
Would y’all want the American leagues to run somewhat at the same time as NCAA season or opposite? Eventually, yes. But will that be successful to start? Im not sure. Can they capitalize on NCAA growth? yes. but can it hinder the growth of these pro leagues? also yes. |
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Post by SayonaraTachikara on Dec 13, 2022 14:55:57 GMT -5
If LOVB doesn't have their plan, and especially finances, together, they should soon consider just ditching their own league, and become owners of one or more franchises in the Fed League. If they're really invested in their own model, they can use their position to influence the structure and operation towards something more in line with their vision. Otherwise, with all these pro start-ups around at the same time, it will just dilute the support and likelihood of success for any one of them. the problem is no one is going to be willing to give up their slice of the pie. Combining LOVB's vision (and club resources) with the realism of PVF (wanting a regular league with owners, based in established locations) seems like the best fit. AU can be its own "fun" thing. But will we ever see that? Probably not... LOVB being league owned (and not having franchises/teams/whatever) is going to be its downfall.... the club model just doesnt seem to be successful with the NCAA being present.. overseas they dont have that. With all of the main LOVB stakeholders coming from Bain and Co. They tried to steal the Allstar Cheerleadiing model that Varsity Brands uses to fleece all the youth parents from the clubs, uniforms and tournaments to fund the big dance. Your point above is valid. The importnat thing to note is LOVB's model only works when there is a monopoly present similar to Varisty Brands and cheerleading. This will not work with VB. |
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Post by donut on Dec 13, 2022 15:02:48 GMT -5
what the hell is that logo ew
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 13, 2022 15:04:15 GMT -5
what the hell is that logo ew they're pronouncing it as "love" hence the weird "B" thing... it wont ever not be love-b for me lol |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 13, 2022 15:04:50 GMT -5
does anyone know their league format? please don't let it be like AU. it will have traditional scoring. but as for a full league season? not to start... and teams? no one knows |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 13, 2022 15:04:55 GMT -5
what the hell is that logo ew they're pronouncing it as "love" hence the weird "B" thing... it wont ever not be love-b for me lol Yes, yes, no brand confusion at all! |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 13, 2022 15:06:19 GMT -5
they're pronouncing it as "love" hence the weird "B" thing... it wont ever not be love-b for me lol Yes, yes, no brand confusion at all! for the money that LOVB (and Pro Volleyball Federation) is giving to marketing/branding agencies/professionals.... they do really both suck. |
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