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Post by katn on Dec 29, 2023 22:37:24 GMT -5
Texas volleyball hardly ever beat Nebraska before 2008. The gory details for the early JE years: 2007: 1 - 1 (3-0 home; 0-3) 2006: 0 - 2 (2-3 home; 0-3) 2005: 1 - 1 (3-2 home; 0-3) 2004: 0 - 2 (2-3 home; 0-3) 2003: 0 - 2 (0-3 home; 2-3) 2002: 0 - 2 (1-3 home; 0-3) 2001: 0 - 2 (both sweeps) That adds up to 2 - 12, with eight of the losses being sweeps. The set scores for the away matches add up to 2 - 21. That's why, as great as the '09 team was, getting past Nebraska in the Regional Final in Omaha was still a really big deal for us fans. thanks for all the work...nebraska was a juggernaut back then...so the overall texas/nebraska record is texas 14 to 17...maybe check my math though🫠 too bad we can't have an annual non-conference match maybe after jc retires |
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Post by 'hornsVB on Dec 29, 2023 22:59:20 GMT -5
thanks for all the work...nebraska was a juggernaut back then...so the overall texas/nebraska record is texas 14 to 17...maybe check my math though🫠 too bad we can't have an annual non-conference match maybe after jc retires 14 - 17 for the JE years. Overall, coming in to the season, it was 23 - 33 per the fact book, so 24 - 33 now. The early years of The Big 12 we had Jim Moore as the head coach. From 1976 to 1995 we only played Nebraska about 16 times, if I'm figuring correctly. When I started watching Texas volleyball, Florida and Stanford were our main playoff rivals: 1991: Lost to Florida in Regional Semifinal in Baton Rouge 1992: Lost to Florida in Regional Final in Gainesville 1993: Lost to Florida in Regional Final in Austin (1) 1994: Lost to Florida in 2nd round in Gainesville 1995: Defeated Florida in Regional Final in Gainesville (2) (1) my first exposure to Texas VB; matches then were at Rec Sports Center; walk up ticket purchase (2) my wife and I joined the fans greeting the team at the airport 1995: Defeated Stanford in National Semifinal in Amherst, MA 1998: Defeated Stanford in Regional Semifinal in Long Beach 2004: Lost to Stanford in Regional Semifinal in Green Bay 2006: Lost to Stanford in Regional Final in Austin 2008: Lost to Stanford in Regional Semifinal in Omaha (Reverse Sweep) |
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Post by biodogtexas on Dec 29, 2023 23:17:14 GMT -5
The texas sports website schedules are broken for most sports prior to 2014. Something happened when they were updating the website or doing something years ago because they are all broken. ANything more than 10 years ago and you need to find a different source. In my director's cup thread over at IT, i've done a lot of research on our TExas teams to backfill my knowledge base, and it's a mess trying to find anything from that long ago. You do the director's cup thread? You're a legend. Yep. BioDogTexas on both sites, here and Inside Texas. Thanks. I'm glad people are finding it and paying attention. |
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Post by biodogtexas on Dec 29, 2023 23:32:14 GMT -5
ANything more than 10 years ago and you need to find a different source. I pulled my list from the Fact Book (Media Guide). Do you find errors there (other than occasional typos and formatting oddities)? Honestly, I've never seen the fact book before. I now feel like an idiot. Thank you for linking it. That would have saved me about 10 hours over the course of the soccer season. I'v very rarely found any errors in content from the SID, so i'd imagine the factbook is as accurate as anything out there. It's one of the first things i'll be referencing from now on. |
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Post by 'hornsVB on Dec 30, 2023 0:08:58 GMT -5
I'v very rarely found any errors in content from the SID, so i'd imagine the factbook is as accurate as anything out there. It's one of the first things i'll be referencing from now on. An oddity to me from the VB Fact Book regarding the 1994 results: Were the first and second rounds actually in different cities? I know the tournament used to be smaller, and in '93 Texas seemingly had a first round bye, but I'm scratching my head as to how the '94 tourney would have been able to have a second round be in a different city than the first round, while being listed as just "Second Round" rather than "Regional Semifinal." |
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Post by saxetvolley on Dec 30, 2023 0:28:00 GMT -5
Does anyone know or remember when the last time a #7 seed or lower ending up winning the national title?
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Post by biodogtexas on Dec 30, 2023 0:33:29 GMT -5
I'v very rarely found any errors in content from the SID, so i'd imagine the factbook is as accurate as anything out there. It's one of the first things i'll be referencing from now on. An oddity to me from the VB Fact Book regarding the 1994 results: Were the first and second rounds actually in different cities? I know the tournament used to be smaller, and in '93 Texas seemingly had a first round bye, but I'm scratching my head as to how the '94 tourney would have been able to have a second round be in a different city than the first round, while being listed as just "Second Round" rather than "Regional Semifinal." The structure and schedule of the tournament was different. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_NCAA_Division_I_women%27s_volleyball_tournament48 teams in a 64 team structure. 16 teams with byes, so 32 teams basically played in the first round to get to the "real tournament" in the round of 32. It's the same as the Men's Soccer Right now. Yes, they could have played in 2 cities |
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Post by 'hornsVB on Dec 30, 2023 0:37:00 GMT -5
Agreed, but would not the second match have been a Regional Semifinal? The Fact Book does not call it such, which is why I am confused.
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Post by basil on Dec 30, 2023 0:46:23 GMT -5
Does anyone know or remember when the last time a #7 seed or lower ending up winning the national title? skimming through Wikipedia, maybe UCLA as the #9 seed in 2011? |
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Post by biodogtexas on Dec 30, 2023 1:02:48 GMT -5
Agreed, but would not the second match have been a Regional Semifinal? The Fact Book does not call it such, which is why I am confused. No. The National Semifinal is the Final Four. The Regional Final is the Elite Eight. The Regional Semifinal is the Sweet 16. The Regional Quarterfinal is the Round of 32. (I don't know why volleyball doesn't use these terms but i'm sure it's some CBS and legalese bS). The first round cuts it from 64 to 32. The second round cuts it from 32 to 16. The Sweet 16 (regional semifinal) is the 3rd round of a 64 team tournament that cuts it down to 8. In the 48 team tournament structure, like they used in 1994, the first round cut it from 48 to 32 teams. The 2nd round cut it from 32 to 16. Texas played in the first round becasue they did not receive a bye. They won and advanced to the 2nd round, the round of 32, the regional quarterfinal. That second match, Texas was pl;aying to advance to the regional semifinal, i.e. the Sweet 16. Look back at that Wikipedia tournament bracket i linked. |
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Post by katn on Dec 30, 2023 1:38:16 GMT -5
underarmournext.com/volleyball/all-america/
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Post by 'hornsVB on Dec 30, 2023 15:16:53 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation, biodogtexas. Looking more closely at the dates I see the first round was on a Wednesday and the second round that Saturday. I'd forgotten how it worked before the tournament expanded to 64 teams and was thinking the match at Florida was the first match of a two match regional weekend.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 30, 2023 15:37:53 GMT -5
Ok, y'all be honest: how many times have you re-watched the Natty in the last 2 weeks? VolleyOrphan thinks I'm insane, but I told him this is normal TX fan behavior LOL. I've watched the full replay at least 5x and the last two sets probably another 3-5 times.
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Post by hookem24 on Dec 30, 2023 15:47:16 GMT -5
Ok, y'all be honest: how many times have you re-watched the Natty in the last 2 weeks? VolleyOrphan thinks I'm insane, but I told him this is normal TX fan behavior LOL. I've watched the full replay at least 5x and the last two sets probably another 3-5 times. i cant fall asleep without noise (usually tv in background) and its been my go to for falling asleep the last 2 weeks. and i usually make it through the whole game and then put on the semifinal game |
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Post by stevehorn on Dec 30, 2023 16:06:54 GMT -5
I'v very rarely found any errors in content from the SID, so i'd imagine the factbook is as accurate as anything out there. It's one of the first things i'll be referencing from now on. An oddity to me from the VB Fact Book regarding the 1994 results: Were the first and second rounds actually in different cities? I know the tournament used to be smaller, and in '93 Texas seemingly had a first round bye, but I'm scratching my head as to how the '94 tourney would have been able to have a second round be in a different city than the first round, while being listed as just "Second Round" rather than "Regional Semifinal." Yes there were played in different cities. Appears they played each of those rounds separately and on the home court of the seeded team (second round) and the better team (first round) instead of playing both rounds at one sub-regional site like today. The second round would be the round of 32. |
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