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Post by slxpress on Mar 14, 2023 18:08:46 GMT -5
Thisssssss!! Mind you they’ll have a tournament after a long season of SEC play. I rather the team have a break before NCAA tournament. So “we” complain, beg, wish , hope we get the same kind of attention as mens basketball: well they play along season, and almost every conference then plays a conference tournament: so if we are wanting equal treatment lets have equal treatment! I don't like conference tournaments in men's basketball, either. I guess rather than pooling all volleyball fans into a monolithic cabal where there's unanimity regarding the best way to grow the sport, I'd like to think there is room for disagreement. Put me on the side that doesn't want a conference tournament. I don't get a say, so if the SEC says we're going to have a conference tournament, we're going to have a conference tournament, but I don't have to agree with it.
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Post by horns1 on Mar 14, 2023 18:23:39 GMT -5
If the conference tournament is done right, it can be a great preparation for the NCAA tournament. I like it because when teams aren't playing each other home and away, the tourney is a more fair way to determine the conference's automatic bid to the NCAA tourney.
Who has any thoughts on location for the conference tourney? Gonna be the week of Thanksgiving, I guess.
Perhaps playing a best of 3 sets in the early rounds would be an option.
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Post by dodger on Mar 14, 2023 18:33:31 GMT -5
So “we” complain, beg, wish , hope we get the same kind of attention as mens basketball: well they play along season, and almost every conference then plays a conference tournament: so if we are wanting equal treatment lets have equal treatment! I don't like conference tournaments in men's basketball, either. I guess rather than pooling all volleyball fans into a monolithic cabal where there's unanimity regarding the best way to grow the sport, I'd like to think there is room for disagreement. Put me on the side that doesn't want a conference tournament. I don't get a say, so if the SEC says we're going to have a conference tournament, we're going to have a conference tournament, but I don't have to agree with it. I believe basketball conf. Tourney is revenue driven: certainly not necessary but tv pays! And many players seem to enjoy: and for many conferences its actually their first weekend of ncaa tourney:
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Post by anOPINionATEDbeACH(hookemboo) on Mar 14, 2023 18:41:13 GMT -5
There's no way you guys should be finding anything negative out of this. This is great for sport of Volleyball & the promotion could be insane.
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Post by horns1 on Mar 14, 2023 18:55:16 GMT -5
There's no way you guys should be finding anything negative out of this. This is great for sport of Volleyball & the promotion could be insane. I'm excited about it; trying something new (or reviving something that used to be done) could be good. If it doesn't pan out, you nix it. I've barely started thinking about it, but Thanksgiving week/weekend makes it complicated, IMO, especially for fan attendance. SEC championships that are typically held at the same location (recently, and for the foreseeable future): Football - Atlanta, GA Hoops (M) - Nashville, TN Hoops (W) - Greenville, SC Baseball - Hoover, AL Most other championships are rotated among different campus sites. I honestly can't think of a truly "neutral" site that would support a conference volleyball tournament during the last week of November due to the Thanksgiving holiday. If it will be at a campus site initially, you would think Texas, Florida, or Kentucky would make sense. Florida shares its arena with both their hoops teams, so tough to imagine it would be available for like 4-5 days straight. At least the SEC network will be able to televise it (I hope)!
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Post by uofaGRAD on Mar 14, 2023 19:03:50 GMT -5
horns1 Gateway Center Arena at College Park (Atlanta, GA). G-League/WNBA arena. WNBA season will be over by that point and the G-League team plays mostly on Tuesday’s and Saturday/Sunday’s. If the SEC asked the G-League to make that Saturday/Sunday game away, the SEC could have Wednesday through Sunday for a potential tournament. Just an idea.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Mar 14, 2023 19:04:03 GMT -5
Other than the athletes unlimited match and the match against TCU on the 26th are there any other announcements for our spring schedule?? Spring schedule posted texassports.com/sports/womens-volleyball/scheduleMar 26 (Sun) 12 p.m. at Texas Christian University Fort Worth, TX Mar 31 (Fri) 7 p.m. at Texas State San Marcos, TX Apr 5 (Wed) 7:30 p.m. vs Baylor Austin, Texas Gregory Gymnasium Apr 12 (Wed) 7 p.m. vs Athletes Unlimited Austin, Texas Gregory Gymnasium Anyone know anything about AU tickets?
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Post by horns1 on Mar 14, 2023 19:10:19 GMT -5
horns1 Gateway Center Arena at College Park (Atlanta, GA). G-League/WNBA arena. WNBA season will be over by that point and the G-League team plays mostly on Tuesday’s and Saturday/Sunday’s. If the SEC asked the G-League to make that Saturday/Sunday game away, the SEC could have Wednesday through Sunday for a potential tournament. Just an idea. I mean, Atlanta is easy to fly into from most locations, and has plenty of hotel rooms. Do I think they'd support a women's college volleyball tournament? I don't honestly know; that would be a challenge for any neutral site (Dallas, New Orleans, Houston, Orlando, etc.).
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Post by slxpress on Mar 14, 2023 19:12:37 GMT -5
Whenever people ask "Why do conferences have to have a football championship or a basketball tournament?"
The answer is always "money"
But, we know that only a very few schools make money off of volleyball ticket sales. I know Texas doesn't. Then why would the SEC revive a tournament after a 20 year period?
My theory is that it's chance to provide a chance that one Cinderella team, that might not make the tournament, an invite if it were to become an automatic qualifier due to winning the conference championship? Is that logic weak? I can't think of valid reason to add more games at the end of the year where there's a greater chance of injury or adding wear on a team about to play the tournament.
I'm going to apologize in advance for being pedantic, but it's not true Texas doesn't make money off of volleyball ticket sales (plus donations). You're saying the program doesn't run at a profit, and that's true, but some of the impetus for spending is to keep from running afoul of the very strong Title IX advocacy that runs through the athletic department and was heavily empowered by the settlement in 1993. I'm sure the program could be run with a positive revenue stream if that was the priority. Thankfully, the priority is winning national championships, and they have the largesse from football + other sources to help with that. My guess is that ESPN is pushing it as part of their exclusive contract. The networks are seeing the growth in numbers with volleyball, and they probably think they can get better viewership out of a tournament format than they can with regular season contests, plus it helps them with complaints about the lack of equity in coverage. At the end of the day you have to be able to make money, but you can tell there are more and more TV people paying attention to the attendance numbers and the year over year growth in the sport and they want to see if they can help push the sport some. And yeah, I do think it can help bubble teams. I mean, it could hurt them, too, but at least with a tournament they'd get a chance to prove it on the court, as opposed to hoping some other team somewhere loses down the stretch.
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Post by slxpress on Mar 14, 2023 19:17:04 GMT -5
There's no way you guys should be finding anything negative out of this. This is great for sport of Volleyball & the promotion could be insane. When you say there's no way, I don't think it means what you think it means. I'm not a fan of it. Telling me I shouldn't feel that way is not very compelling to me. How about we just agree to have a different perspective on it? In the end, we're going to have a tournament regardless of how I feel about it, so your excitement shouldn't be diminished by me having a different opinion.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Mar 14, 2023 19:21:20 GMT -5
‘Oh goodness’. God, love her.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Mar 14, 2023 19:41:24 GMT -5
horns1 Gateway Center Arena at College Park (Atlanta, GA). G-League/WNBA arena. WNBA season will be over by that point and the G-League team plays mostly on Tuesday’s and Saturday/Sunday’s. If the SEC asked the G-League to make that Saturday/Sunday game away, the SEC could have Wednesday through Sunday for a potential tournament. Just an idea. I mean, Atlanta is easy to fly into from most locations, and has plenty of hotel rooms. Do I think they'd support a women's college volleyball tournament? I don't honestly know; that would be a challenge for any neutral site (Dallas, New Orleans, Houston, Orlando, etc.). NCAA seems to already have something set up with Tampa and the FF has been held there multiple times before… maybe there? but you’re right. it’s gonna be hard to fill seats at any location that’s neutral. maybe they have it on some sort of rotation? I hardly think having a home court advantage every *checks notes* 16 years would be too much of an advantage. Granted, that could be extremely difficult for teams that share a court with their basketball teams. Maybe there’s some solution with that where the top 2-4 teams host at their school until the final round or two and then those are at the 1 seeds location. Who knows. Lots of ideas to throw at a dart board. I’ll be interested to see which one sticks.
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Post by ndrew62 on Mar 14, 2023 19:43:17 GMT -5
FYI- for those that missed the 'We are Texas" special on LHN, I noticed that ESPNU will show it on 3/18 at 10:30pm and 3/22 at 6:30pm!
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Post by horns1 on Mar 14, 2023 20:06:04 GMT -5
I mean, Atlanta is easy to fly into from most locations, and has plenty of hotel rooms. Do I think they'd support a women's college volleyball tournament? I don't honestly know; that would be a challenge for any neutral site (Dallas, New Orleans, Houston, Orlando, etc.). NCAA seems to already have something set up with Tampa and the FF has been held there multiple times before… maybe there? but you’re right. it’s gonna be hard to fill seats at any location that’s neutral. maybe they have it on some sort of rotation? I hardly think having a home court advantage every *checks notes* 16 years would be too much of an advantage. Granted, that could be extremely difficult for teams that share a court with their basketball teams. Maybe there’s some solution with that where the top 2-4 teams host at their school until the final round or two and then those are at the 1 seeds location. Who knows. Lots of ideas to throw at a dart board. I’ll be interested to see which one sticks. I don't think a large, 18,000 seat arena is needed as ticket demand wouldn't be that high. If we hosted, I think having it at Moody Center would be a great option. Would give us and others some late season preparation for those times when someone makes it to the Final Four where a large arena is the venue. I hear the Moody Center is booked so many days of the year that even our basketball teams have trouble finding open dates for their practices; during Thanksgiving week recently, the men's team has played a game on campus at Gregory. If we can navigate hoops teams games (them playing away in holiday tournaments), Moody could work. I think our fans would turn out, possible to the tune of 10,000; most students would be gone during Thanksgiving week, but that's a minor item. Might give a brand new set of 5,000 fans a chance to watch college volleyball in Austin.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Mar 14, 2023 23:20:27 GMT -5
Spring schedule posted texassports.com/sports/womens-volleyball/scheduleMar 26 (Sun) 12 p.m. at Texas Christian University Fort Worth, TX Mar 31 (Fri) 7 p.m. at Texas State San Marcos, TX Apr 5 (Wed) 7:30 p.m. vs Baylor Austin, Texas Gregory Gymnasium Apr 12 (Wed) 7 p.m. vs Athletes Unlimited Austin, Texas Gregory Gymnasium Anyone know anything about AU tickets? Spring games are typically free. So, there are no tickets.
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