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Post by slxpress on Nov 9, 2023 10:27:43 GMT -5
I think the reason we didn't see any changes last night was because the sets were always within reach. JE never seems to make changes in those situations, and the team is able to pull out the close wins more often than not. Even this team, which feels less clutch in these moments than in past years, has been able to do that for most of conference play. I actually prefer JE letting players play through things versus constantly swapping players like some coaches do. But I also feel like enough of the things the team usually relies on weren't clicking last night, and he had enough information to make a proactive change instead of the reactive ones he usually makes. I know that's not his style, but it might be necessary this season. That being said, I feel like lulls at this point in the season are pretty common. (Look at all the upsets from the past two weeks!) Even last year's team didn't look sharp late October/early November. This is probably where the season feels longest to the players, and I'm sure traveling to West Virginia > Austin > Kansas St this week didn't help. Hopefully the team can use this as a reset and build momentum going into the tournament. I don't think we've seen their best yet, and this could be the springboard to get them there. I like your optimism, even when I don’t fully share it.
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Post by storyteller on Nov 9, 2023 10:28:22 GMT -5
I think the reason we didn't see any changes last night was because the sets were always within reach. JE never seems to make changes in those situations, and the team is able to pull out the close wins more often than not. Even this team, which feels less clutch in these moments than in past years, has been able to do that for most of conference play. I actually prefer JE letting players play through things versus constantly swapping players like some coaches do. But I also feel like enough of the things the team usually relies on weren't clicking last night, and he had enough information to make a proactive change instead of the reactive ones he usually makes. I know that's not his style, but it might be necessary this season. That being said, I feel like lulls at this point in the season are pretty common. (Look at all the upsets from the past two weeks!) Even last year's team didn't look sharp late October/early November. This is probably where the season feels longest to the players, and I'm sure traveling to West Virginia > Austin > Kansas St this week didn't help. Hopefully the team can use this as a reset and build momentum going into the tournament. I don't think we've seen their best yet, and this could be the springboard to get them there. Goodness there is a shocking amount of calm, measured judgment and common sense in this post. Have you forgotten you're on Volleytalk??? Still new. I'll learn 😉
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Post by nellynel on Nov 9, 2023 10:32:51 GMT -5
i honestly didnt think swindle was that bad? asjia was getting good sets on the slide and couldnt put any of them away. bella, when set, would hit straight at morris and get dug. the sets to jenna seemed fine, there were just far too many of them. connection with molly was pretty good, at least compared to where we've been during the season, but for whatever reason ella ignored her set 2. her connection with madi from the backrow was my biggest concern. that's been money and it looked horrible yesterday. more molly, less jenna, more bella behind, better backrow sets to madi, but i thought her location to everyone sans madi backrow was fine. we just have to be better. ive never seen asjia so poor offensively:/ and the fact bella wouldnt even try a power swing cross instead of her thumb down/wrist away to the libero wasnt great, but i really, really wish ella wouldve given bella a chance on the slide. It would have been nice if she set a little better but I was more concerned about her and Molly’s inability to even touch the ball on any blocks on the RS. It was nonexistent.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Nov 9, 2023 10:33:59 GMT -5
i honestly didnt think swindle was that bad? asjia was getting good sets on the slide and couldnt put any of them away. bella, when set, would hit straight at morris and get dug. the sets to jenna seemed fine, there were just far too many of them. connection with molly was pretty good, at least compared to where we've been during the season, but for whatever reason ella ignored her set 2. her connection with madi from the backrow was my biggest concern. that's been money and it looked horrible yesterday. more molly, less jenna, more bella behind, better backrow sets to madi, but i thought her location to everyone sans madi backrow was fine. we just have to be better. ive never seen asjia so poor offensively:/ and the fact bella wouldnt even try a power swing cross instead of her thumb down/wrist away to the libero wasnt great, but i really, really wish ella wouldve given bella a chance on the slide. It would have been nice if she set a little better but I was more concerned about her and Molly’s inability to even touch the ball on any blocks in the RS. It was nonexistent. boom. and there it is.
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Post by mln59 on Nov 9, 2023 10:39:05 GMT -5
i would like the record to reflect that my saltiness level is still high-to-quite-high
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Nov 9, 2023 10:45:52 GMT -5
i would like the record to reflect that my saltiness level is still high-to-quite-high Well this will teach you to chose WBB over volleyball. Actually, none of you/me/ widdledumpling could watch live last night, I'm convinced the VolleyGods punished us for it.
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Post by longhorn9214 on Nov 9, 2023 10:46:46 GMT -5
I'm gonna do my best to not come for any of the girls but my goodness, does JE scout potential setters while drunk? The fact that we haven't had a good setting recruit in literal years is insane to me. Keep in mind, for as much of a bust as Shook was, she still went undefeated in Big 12 play. Shook and Swindle are essentially the same kind of player, awkward-footed/tall/lanky/not very athletic. Time and time again, we've been outset in matches by players who maybe topped the top 100 players. Putting up a consistent ball to any of the hitters should not be something a Top 10 ranked setter should be struggling with on a game-to-game basis. The coaching decisions from last night were just awful. Awful. I thought for sure he would change something in the third set but NOPE. Idk if it's stubbornness or if it's something else but damn, like change SOMETHING. Utterly ridiculous. Every program in the country looking for a setter wanted Swindle at the time of that recruiting class. I'm quite happy Nebraska went with Bergen, but it's not like Texas got some rando. I agree with this statement. She was once held as the top recruit of her class, not just setter but the entire class, as a sophomore/junior. She had all the potential. Also, I love swindle but there was too many attack attempts imo especially when we needed to put back some confidence to our own hitters.
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Nov 9, 2023 10:49:33 GMT -5
Welp...
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Post by longhorn9214 on Nov 9, 2023 10:51:07 GMT -5
i honestly didnt think swindle was that bad? asjia was getting good sets on the slide and couldnt put any of them away. bella, when set, would hit straight at morris and get dug. the sets to jenna seemed fine, there were just far too many of them. connection with molly was pretty good, at least compared to where we've been during the season, but for whatever reason ella ignored her set 2. her connection with madi from the backrow was my biggest concern. that's been money and it looked horrible yesterday. more molly, less jenna, more bella behind, better backrow sets to madi, but i thought her location to everyone sans madi backrow was fine. we just have to be better. ive never seen asjia so poor offensively:/ and the fact bella wouldnt even try a power swing cross instead of her thumb down/wrist away to the libero wasnt great, but i really, really wish ella wouldve given bella a chance on the slide. I get it. This loss will either be a reckoning or we will be the same. It's essentially the same line up from the same thing earlier losses with Wash and Stanford. We made some adjustments but just the same thing happened after that. They have read Madi like a book last night. Again, K State played well when it mattered. We were so bad in the last five points in ALL 3 sets. It reminds me of the BYU 2019 Regional in Provo. We were up in all sets but just couldn't go over the hump. This is foreboding a BAD post season run for us IF we don't make adjustments. Since those two losses, Molly has looked better and Asjia as well. I think that was the focus and we HOPED that Madi would just be Madi and Jenna would get better. I think Ella did a good job last night but got outplayed and her hitters didn't make the best decisions.
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Post by mln59 on Nov 9, 2023 10:52:52 GMT -5
i would like the record to reflect that my saltiness level is still high-to-quite-high Well this will teach you to chose WBB over volleyball. Actually, none of you/me/ widdledumpling could watch live last night, I'm convinced the VolleyGods punished us for it. that's fair. when i was autobussing to the wbb game last night, the bus had to pull over so the driver could call the police as an unruly passenger had to be removed.
it was a harbinger of things to come.
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Post by longhorn9214 on Nov 9, 2023 10:52:53 GMT -5
I think the reason we didn't see any changes last night was because the sets were always within reach. JE never seems to make changes in those situations, and the team is able to pull out the close wins more often than not. Even this team, which feels less clutch in these moments than in past years, has been able to do that for most of conference play. I actually prefer JE letting players play through things versus constantly swapping players like some coaches do. But I also feel like enough of the things the team usually relies on weren't clicking last night, and he had enough information to make a proactive change instead of the reactive ones he usually makes. I know that's not his style, but it might be necessary this season. That being said, I feel like lulls at this point in the season are pretty common. (Look at all the upsets from the past two weeks!) Even last year's team didn't look sharp late October/early November. This is probably where the season feels longest to the players, and I'm sure traveling to West Virginia > Austin > Kansas St this week didn't help. Hopefully the team can use this as a reset and build momentum going into the tournament. I don't think we've seen their best yet, and this could be the springboard to get them there. THIS. Another wake up call on an odd season with a freshman setter connection and libero because everyone else are veterans.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Nov 9, 2023 10:55:23 GMT -5
Can we please spend the entire week hitting line, high hands and tooling the block. If you don't know how, Elia Rubin has instructional videos on YouTube.
Please and thank you.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Nov 9, 2023 11:02:54 GMT -5
I think the reason we didn't see any changes last night was because the sets were always within reach. JE never seems to make changes in those situations, and the team is able to pull out the close wins more often than not. Even this team, which feels less clutch in these moments than in past years, has been able to do that for most of conference play. I actually prefer JE letting players play through things versus constantly swapping players like some coaches do. But I also feel like enough of the things the team usually relies on weren't clicking last night, and he had enough information to make a proactive change instead of the reactive ones he usually makes. I know that's not his style, but it might be necessary this season. That being said, I feel like lulls at this point in the season are pretty common. (Look at all the upsets from the past two weeks!) Even last year's team didn't look sharp late October/early November. This is probably where the season feels longest to the players, and I'm sure traveling to West Virginia > Austin > Kansas St this week didn't help. Hopefully the team can use this as a reset and build momentum going into the tournament. I don't think we've seen their best yet, and this could be the springboard to get them there. THIS. Another wake up call on an odd season with a freshman setter connection and libero because everyone else are veterans. Before the season began, I wondered, "Who has won a NC with a true freshmen setter?" Digging, digging, digging:
Jenna Gray, 2016.
Beating a Texas team 3-1.
Also, it helped having Kathyrn Plummer as a teammate.
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Post by mln59 on Nov 9, 2023 11:08:02 GMT -5
THIS. Another wake up call on an odd season with a freshman setter connection and libero because everyone else are veterans. Before the season began, I wondered, "Who has won a NC with a true freshmen setter?" Digging, digging, digging:
Jenna Gray, 2016.
Beating a Texas team 3-1.
Also, it helped having Kathyrn Plummer as a teammate.
paulina prieto cerame was outstanding in the semifinals match vs. nebraska and then fell apart vs. stanford.
that was tough to watch. bad way to go out
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Post by longhorn9214 on Nov 9, 2023 11:09:17 GMT -5
Before the season began, I wondered, "Who has won a NC with a true freshmen setter?" Digging, digging, digging:
Jenna Gray, 2016.
Beating a Texas team 3-1.
Also, it helped having Kathyrn Plummer as a teammate.
paulina prieto cerame was outstanding in the semifinals match vs. nebraska and then fell apart vs. stanford.
that was tough to watch. bad way to go out
Great players will never have two bad games in a row. Excited for Madi and Asjia to bounce back. I don't think Ella had a bad game. Now, we shall see how Jenna responds.
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