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Post by volleyplayer2303 on Jan 10, 2023 17:20:47 GMT -5
I feel like any of the top assistants in the country would be interested in this job. UNC has had some final four level talent last ten years and with the ACC at the peak of its game right now and if UNC is willing to support the program then I can't imagine they have to look too far. Dan Meske is an obvious hire. Lauren Steinbrecher at James Madison should be on Michigan and UNC's list. Matt Botsford at FGCU could be in the conversation. Leanne Williamson at South Dakota. Maybe these mid major Head Coaches are learning from KBB and Genny Volpe. Sometimes stability and job security is more important than anything else.
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Post by bkedane on Jan 10, 2023 18:51:17 GMT -5
UNC has not had much final four talent. UNC has had some top 20 level talent and teams in the time period you mention.
I agree that if UNC supports the program at a high level the program could be excellent. But that's a huge "if".
UNC has never supported the program like top programs are supported and the gap has grown much larger in recent years even within the conference.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 10, 2023 21:01:51 GMT -5
I’m not trying to diminish the job he’s done, I also think he’s a wonderful person. I do however think there’s a significant difference in announcing at seasons end opposed to now. The search started before the public announcement. I could certainly see that. |
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Post by volleyheels10 on Jan 11, 2023 9:05:51 GMT -5
I live in Chapel Hill and have been gone the last 3 weeks but got back Monday. Apparently not only has the search been ongoing, but rumor is Bubba already has a short list of who he wants to pursue. However, he is giving this hire adequate time and it may be a few weeks to ensure that there is proper handoff. And apparently money will not be an issue in the hiring process.
I do know for sure there is a name up here mentioned that is on his list. Successful AC who has been to the final 4 within the last 3 years. Not sure of any of the others he is targeting.
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Post by dodger on Jan 11, 2023 9:19:47 GMT -5
UNC has not had much final four talent. UNC has had some top 20 level talent and teams in the time period you mention. I agree that if UNC supports the program at a high level the program could be excellent. But that's a huge "if". UNC has never supported the program like top programs are supported and the gap has grown much larger in recent years even within the conference. Could elaborate on what you define as support ? Budget lines; salaries, support staff, licker room , venue, practice facilities. Travel budget handicaps? I really am unaware of these issues? |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 11, 2023 13:12:52 GMT -5
UNC has not had much final four talent. UNC has had some top 20 level talent and teams in the time period you mention. I agree that if UNC supports the program at a high level the program could be excellent. But that's a huge "if". UNC has never supported the program like top programs are supported and the gap has grown much larger in recent years even within the conference. Could elaborate on what you define as support ? Budget lines; salaries, support staff, licker room , venue, practice facilities. Travel budget handicaps? I really am unaware of these issues? All of those things |
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Post by bvolley17 on Jan 11, 2023 14:25:00 GMT -5
UNC has not had much final four talent. UNC has had some top 20 level talent and teams in the time period you mention. I agree that if UNC supports the program at a high level the program could be excellent. But that's a huge "if". UNC has never supported the program like top programs are supported and the gap has grown much larger in recent years even within the conference. Take me back to pre-2016 transition where we would have had a team of Taylor Leath, Julia Scoles, Taylor Borup, Holly Carlton, Sydnye Fields, Taylor Fricano, Mariah Evans, and Destiny Cox and Lauren Harrison incoming... that could have been a magical stretch. If only... |
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Post by whatsthescore on Jan 11, 2023 16:41:31 GMT -5
The names you mentioned were not all pre-2016...Harrison and Cox were later....but kudos also to Abigail Curry, Hayley McCorkle, Beth Nordhorn, Sheila Doyle, Katherine Esterly, Greer Moseman and Mia Fradenburg and many others - they contributed too. A good time to be a Tar Heel.
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Post by bvolley17 on Jan 11, 2023 17:29:49 GMT -5
The names you mentioned were not all pre-2016...Harrison and Cox were later....but kudos also to Abigail Curry, Hayley McCorkle, Beth Nordhorn, Sheila Doyle, Katherine Esterly, Greer Moseman and Mia Fradenburg and many others - they contributed too. A good time to be a Tar Heel. Yes, that’s why I said Cox and Harrison were incoming. And I was talking about the team moving forward. At that point, most of them were graduating out. But, yes, we can all agree they were huge in helping build to that point. But I think we were at a point where we made an Elite 8, but the talent that was coming in could have vied for a Final Four by the time the Leath was a senior and Scoles/Borup, etc., class were juniors (Carlton would have been a RS-Soph). |
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Post by InfoBot on Jan 11, 2023 17:46:06 GMT -5
Which is Michigan by a long shot. North Carolina pays in the lower half of the conference. The conference on average doesn't pay as well as the BIG10. It's Carolina, so a lot of people will be interested. A lot of people will turn it down unless they pay considerably more and promise for major upgrades on facilities and budget. Rosen at Michigan was extended in 2018 and his base salary for 2022 was $210,000 ($190,000 in 2021). Sagula, also extended in 2018, had a base salary of $180,000 in 2021. I would hardly say that's "Michigan by a long shot". Also, I've said this before, but extensions for both schools were done in 2018, so saying they're lower half of the conference when some coaches got extensions/signed new coaches after them isn't altogether fair. The market has changed. The truth is, for a handful of reason, both of these programs have the potential to be very good and I certainly hope the administrations pony up the money to help them get there, both in salary, facility, and otherwise. |
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Post by InfoBot on Jan 11, 2023 18:05:08 GMT -5
I live in Chapel Hill and have been gone the last 3 weeks but got back Monday. Apparently not only has the search been ongoing, but rumor is Bubba already has a short list of who he wants to pursue. However, he is giving this hire adequate time and it may be a few weeks to ensure that there is proper handoff. And apparently money will not be an issue in the hiring process. I do know for sure there is a name up here mentioned that is on his list. Successful AC who has been to the final 4 within the last 3 years. Not sure of any of the others he is targeting. I haven't read the whole thread and my search function isn't working 🙃 But ACs who have been in the Final Four the last three years would make it one of: - Dildine (WI) | Reportedly turned down NC State recently and withdrew interest at Michigan this year.
- Meske (Loui) | Some (myself included) think he's the coach in waiting at Louisville.
- Petrone (Pitt)
- Reyes (NE) | Claimed on Twitter to be returning to NE next year (this was before MI and UNC opened).
- Sullivan (TX) | Has been in Austin for 12 years.
- White (WI)
This approach seems to be common among ADs the last two years: Anders (KY -> Vandy), Behonick (Pitt -> OR St), Gabriel (WA AC -> WA HC), Hildebrand (NE -> LBSU), Johnson (TX -> LSU), Mansfield (WA -> KS St), and Reft (San Diego -> UCLA). |
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Post by bkedane on Jan 12, 2023 13:47:50 GMT -5
I live in Chapel Hill and have been gone the last 3 weeks but got back Monday. Apparently not only has the search been ongoing, but rumor is Bubba already has a short list of who he wants to pursue. However, he is giving this hire adequate time and it may be a few weeks to ensure that there is proper handoff. And apparently money will not be an issue in the hiring process. I do know for sure there is a name up here mentioned that is on his list. Successful AC who has been to the final 4 within the last 3 years. Not sure of any of the others he is targeting. Who in Chapel Hill is giving out this information about the search? Is the AD or SWA giving updates? |
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Post by volleyheels10 on Jan 13, 2023 11:28:01 GMT -5
Haven't heard too much more other than the girls are throwing their support behind Mike....I feel that a long search indicates the likelihood that they are entertaining a bigger outside hire as stated.
Will be interesting if admin goes with new blood, do the girls stick together since they have made their wishes known? May be a few interesting weeks ahead. Mike will be running spring practices while Joe handles the admin dutues for handoff.
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Post by InfoBot on Jan 13, 2023 13:41:58 GMT -5
Houk to Montana State so take him off your list if you had it.
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Post by bkedane on Jan 13, 2023 15:37:48 GMT -5
Houk to Montana State so take him off your list if you had it. Did anyone think he was in any way a serious candidate? There was an odd early mention of his name (based on what?) and then the idea stuck around. |
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