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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 25, 2023 16:40:38 GMT -5
I never understand tagging a mod in a conversation that is not malicious just because someone doesn't enjoy it. The forum has rules about what is on-topic and what is off-topic. I believe that the original discussion was on-topic, but it has definitely moved off-topic.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jan 25, 2023 16:44:07 GMT -5
I never understand tagging a mod in a conversation that is not malicious just because someone doesn't enjoy it. The forum has rules about what is on-topic and what is off-topic. I believe that the original discussion was on-topic, but it has definitely moved off-topic. Based on what, your biased opinion? The original statement not only used the slang term for the bill that Desantis opposition coined, as well as exaggerated/lied about the AP studies course. Nothing like a little hypocrisy mixed in with misinformed activism to try and prove your point.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 25, 2023 16:44:43 GMT -5
And why do you think it is not? This is the same "trustworthy source" that recently induced bomb threats against the Boston Children's Hospital by falsely claiming that they were performing sex-changing surgery on children.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 25, 2023 16:48:17 GMT -5
The forum has rules about what is on-topic and what is off-topic. I believe that the original discussion was on-topic, but it has definitely moved off-topic. Based on what, your biased opinion? The original statement not only used the slang term for the bill that Desantis opposition coined, as well as exaggerated/lied about the AP studies course. Nothing like a little hypocrisy mixed in with misinformed activism to try and prove your point. Based on that it was LITERALLY about the NCAA locating the D1 VB Final Four in a specific place. That's pretty obviously on-topic, regardless of why people might be opposed to it. But that has not really been any part of the discussion for the last several days.
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Post by n00b on Jan 25, 2023 17:23:29 GMT -5
the core of this 'issue' people keep forgetting about is how young the kids are... I want some of y'all to say out-loud to a room full of people "I think k-3 teachers should be integrating lesson plans about sexuality and sexual orientation into their curriculum because I believe it is necessary for kids below the age of 10 to be learning about that" really let that sink in for a sec. no one is arguing about discussing these things to kids aged 12 and up. I usually am pretty fair and can understand the other side of arguments, but this one really stumps me for the people in support of it lol, im not gonna post anything else in here because ill never comprehend the other side of this one. peace n luv I would like to know how many K-3 teachers ACTUALLY DO teach about sexualty and orientation. is there any real data. Again, I can't imagine the average K-3 teacher wanting to go anyhere near the subject matter. Maybe they might on occasion have one graphic that shows there are all sorts of identities out there, but after that, like they are gonna really create content....and have a test on the knowledge? 0.01% is my guess, and I'd imagine it's lower than that, but maybe I"m wrong I think you’re right. It’s probably very, very low. But if I’m listing things to be upset at politicians over, a pointless bill that outlaws something that doesn’t happen wouldn’t crack the top thousand. Let’s call it what it is, a way to show opposition to a potential presidential candidate.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jan 25, 2023 17:24:15 GMT -5
Based on what, your biased opinion? The original statement not only used the slang term for the bill that Desantis opposition coined, as well as exaggerated/lied about the AP studies course. Nothing like a little hypocrisy mixed in with misinformed activism to try and prove your point. Based on that it was LITERALLY about the NCAA locating the D1 VB Final Four in a specific place. That's pretty obviously on-topic, regardless of why people might be opposed to it. But that has not really been any part of the discussion for the last several days. This entire thread started because of a biased political opinion based on misinformation. Just because they referenced wanting to move the volleyball final four from the place they think they don't like their politics proving they were too lazy to look up truth on their own, or extremely gullible to believe what they were told, holds no grounds to even belong there in the first place. It required correction, and got it. The only thing the rest of the conversation did was point out how many other people were ready to join the mob due to their own ignorance and/or showed a bunch of people completely ok with teachers having sexual conversations with sub 10 year olds. I saw a perfect tweet explaining it today, if two weathermen from two different stations are on the TV and one says it is raining outside and the other doesn't, do you just blindly listen to the weatherman you enjoy more, or are you intelligent enough to look outside for yourself?
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 25, 2023 17:32:52 GMT -5
Based on that it was LITERALLY about the NCAA locating the D1 VB Final Four in a specific place. That's pretty obviously on-topic, regardless of why people might be opposed to it. But that has not really been any part of the discussion for the last several days. This entire thread started because of a biased political opinion based on misinformation. Just because they referenced wanting to move the volleyball final four from the place they think they don't like their politics proving they were too lazy to look up truth on their own, or extremely gullible to believe what they were told, holds no grounds to even belong there in the first place. It required correction, and got it. The only thing the rest of the conversation did was point out how many other people were ready to join the mob due to their own ignorance and/or showed a bunch of people completely ok with teachers having sexual conversations with sub 10 year olds. I saw a perfect tweet explaining it today, if two weathermen from two different stations are on the TV and one says it is raining outside and the other doesn't, do you just blindly listen to the weatherman you enjoy more, or are you intelligent enough to look outside for yourself? will it rain in Tampa during the final four? maybe that's teh best way to decide this!
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Post by hornshouse23 on Jan 25, 2023 18:12:41 GMT -5
My dear, that’s why you tag a MOD. So they can decide if the original topic has gone enough off the rails or not. I know you’re some of you are spearheading Ron’s 2024 campaign, but this stopped being about volleyball pages ago. No need to be defensive about that.
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Post by trojansc on Jan 25, 2023 18:17:58 GMT -5
I would like to know how many K-3 teachers ACTUALLY DO teach about sexualty and orientation. is there any real data. Again, I can't imagine the average K-3 teacher wanting to go anyhere near the subject matter. Maybe they might on occasion have one graphic that shows there are all sorts of identities out there, but after that, like they are gonna really create content....and have a test on the knowledge? 0.01% is my guess, and I'd imagine it's lower than that, but maybe I"m wrong I think you’re right. It’s probably very, very low. But if I’m listing things to be upset at politicians over, a pointless bill that outlaws something that doesn’t happen wouldn’t crack the top thousand. Let’s call it what it is, a way to show opposition to a potential presidential candidate. I think I would understand the bill's motivation more if banned all talks of sexuality, relationships, etc. I.E - showing a movie with a gay couple is off limits even if it is an age-appropriate movie, but a heterosexual couple kissing is okay. I don't know if this is the best example. It's any classroom discussion - so - what does an educator do if a kid asks about 'can two men get married'? They simply can't answer the question? Like, they should ban all talks of marriage in class if that's the case. But we know that's not what the bill says and it's not within the motivation of why this bill exists.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jan 25, 2023 18:21:20 GMT -5
My dear, that’s why you tag a MOD. So they can decide if the original topic has gone enough off the rails or not. I know you’re some of you are spearheading Ron’s 2024 campaign, but this stopped being about volleyball pages ago. No need to be defensive about that. Nobody is spearheading any campaign, misinformed activism was corrected, while simultaneously outing a whole bunch of people that are too ignorant and/or lazy to look up facts for themselves, as well as exposing a bunch of people ok with sub 10 year olds having unmoderated conversations about an extremely inappropriate topic for that age from a third party. The original thread was never about volleyball, it was purely a biased opinion based on falsities.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Jan 25, 2023 18:31:36 GMT -5
My dear, that’s why you tag a MOD. So they can decide if the original topic has gone enough off the rails or not. I know you’re some of you are spearheading Ron’s 2024 campaign, but this stopped being about volleyball pages ago. No need to be defensive about that. Nobody is spearheading any campaign, misinformed activism was corrected, while simultaneously outing a whole bunch of people that are too ignorant and/or lazy to look up facts for themselves, as well as exposing a bunch of people ok with sub 10 year olds having unmoderated conversations about an extremely inappropriate topic for that age from a third party. The original thread was never about volleyball, it was purely a biased opinion based on falsities. Okay.
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Post by ay2013 on Jan 25, 2023 18:33:57 GMT -5
My dear, that’s why you tag a MOD. So they can decide if the original topic has gone enough off the rails or not. I know you’re some of you are spearheading Ron’s 2024 campaign, but this stopped being about volleyball pages ago. No need to be defensive about that. Nobody is spearheading any campaign, misinformed activism was corrected... The second post of the thread, which was made by you said "Leave your politics at home, there are volleyball fans in Florida too. If you want to join the political discussion go argue with the left/right extremist crazies over at off the net." That's not "correcting misinformed activism", it's silencing opposition and minimizing state-sponsored racism.
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Post by HappyVolley on Jan 25, 2023 18:34:08 GMT -5
Can someone just take this thread out back and shoot it in the head?
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jan 25, 2023 18:44:04 GMT -5
Nobody is spearheading any campaign, misinformed activism was corrected... The second post of the thread, which was made by you said "Leave your politics at home, there are volleyball fans in Florida too. If you want to join the political discussion go argue with the left/right extremist crazies over at off the net." That's not "correcting misinformed activism", it's silencing opposition and minimizing state-sponsored racism. Yes, it literally demands to be corrected. Because otherwise all we have is a bunch of people that can not do their own research join in on the mob mentality over literally false information posted in the very first post of this thread. But continue to prove your immaturity in the matter by posting GIF's and aiding in the misinformation. By you saying not correcting misinformation and literal falsities is silencing opposition and minimizing state sponsored racism, you are doing nothing but showing us your ignorance.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 25, 2023 18:45:10 GMT -5
Can someone just take this thread out back and shoot it in the head? Since we have now reached the "off season" for this board, perhaps it is time to once again explain that the way to kill any online discussion is to simply not reply to it. Even the people who want it to keep going will eventually get tired of posting with no other replies. (Except maybe if it is Holiday, but he seems to be content to only spam the OTN forum.)
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