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Post by anOPINionATEDbeACH(hookemboo) on Jan 30, 2023 12:12:25 GMT -5
Louisville an honorable mention for setting changes (glock was a top 5 setter in her class) but Nebraska actually jumps up to number 4 after losing their best setter, best blocker, 2 of their 3 best passers and 3 of their 4 best defenders. 3 of their best serves as well. I just dont understand the logic ig, nebraska has 0 proven passers aside from Rodriguez and 0 proven setters on roster. they have 1 pin who has shown she can consistently terminate for an entire season. not saying Louisville should be higher (although I do think Florida is a very interesting choice over them) but if setting changes os the reason they are there how tf is nebraska at 4 lol they have a lot of top recruits on their roster... but they did last year too. I think putting them at 4 may be more about the name on their back bc they look like a huge question mark right now imo To be fair everyone but Wisconsin and Stanford have big question marks right now. On paper Nebraska is loaded. They have the top setting recruit, top overall recruit on the left, plus the top libero recruit to help with passing. Generally speaking Nebraska had a ton of size and talent to work with. And the setting situation should improve as long as Reilly is healthy. They won’t be without flaw, but I think they deserve to be top 4 preseason based on sheer talent and coaching ability. Louisville is underrated at 11, but a lot of the team’s success is riding on a 3rd year setter who hasn’t seen the court her first 2 years and was the #39 recruit a couple of years ago. They also don’t have offensive production in the middle returning. They don’t appear to have the depth to make changes if Glock isn’t up to par or if they can’t get production out of their middles. I’d rank them a lot higher but I think they have a smaller window for error so I can see why others don’t rank them as high. Are y'all even trying to do research before making comments on what somebody has returning?? Louisville has 2 returning middles Creese and PK Kong at 6”4/6”5 returning to compete for playing time along with a highly rated 6”5 freshman middle Reese Robins.... Their main question mark is setting like everybody else.
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Post by GatorsChomp on Jan 30, 2023 12:39:21 GMT -5
omg I forgot to rank 1. Stanford 2. Wisconsin 3. Texas 4. Nebraska (I know, same old boring top 4) 5. Kentucky ----> return most of the same team + 6'5 OH, this team is dangerous + needs to be in conversation for a Natty next season 6-10: Pitt, Minnesota, Penn State, Florida, Oregon (in what ever order tbh) HM: Louisville ---> not set on them yet due to setting changes but we never know I think next season will be v dramatic... most of the seniors from the covid season are leaving and leaves up and rising seniors play a 5th year Louisville an honorable mention for setting changes (glock was a top 5 setter in her class) but Nebraska actually jumps up to number 4 after losing their best setter, best blocker, 2 of their 3 best passers and 3 of their 4 best defenders. 3 of their best serves as well. I just dont understand the logic ig, nebraska has 0 proven passers aside from Rodriguez and 0 proven setters on roster. they have 1 pin who has shown she can consistently terminate for an entire season. not saying Louisville should be higher (although I do think Florida is a very interesting choice over them) but if setting changes os the reason they are there how tf is nebraska at 4 lol they have a lot of top recruits on their roster... but they did last year too. I think putting them at 4 may be more about the name on their back bc they look like a huge question mark right now imo The logic is basically John Cook and the Nebraska team as a whole? It's no shock that Nebraska develops passers and defensive players... so yeah, I have full confidence that Nebraska is a top 5 team. As for Louisville, I can't trust that setting change at all - Tori Dilfer was an amazing setter that was taught under DBK... I don't really know what # she was but she blossomed under DBK... it took her till her fifth year. I believe the same for Glock but with being redshirted in 2021, and seldom playing in 2022... mixed in with the loss of Claire Chausse, Tillman, and Mbonu.. I put Louisville as HM. Though I am not familiar with the talent Louisville brings in, I just thought it made most sense to put them as HM for my list.
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Post by vollectator on Jan 30, 2023 13:14:17 GMT -5
omg I forgot to rank 1. Stanford 2. Wisconsin 3. Texas 4. Nebraska (I know, same old boring top 4) 5. Kentucky ----> return most of the same team + 6'5 OH, this team is dangerous + needs to be in conversation for a Natty next season 6-10: Pitt, Minnesota, Penn State, Florida, Oregon (in what ever order tbh) HM: Louisville ---> not set on them yet due to setting changes but we never know I think next season will be v dramatic... most of the seniors from the covid season are leaving and leaves up and rising seniors play a 5th year Louisville an honorable mention for setting changes (glock was a top 5 setter in her class) but Nebraska actually jumps up to number 4 after losing their best setter, best blocker, 2 of their 3 best passers and 3 of their 4 best defenders. 3 of their best serves as well. I just dont understand the logic ig, nebraska has 0 proven passers aside from Rodriguez and 0 proven setters on roster. they have 1 pin who has shown she can consistently terminate for an entire season. not saying Louisville should be higher (although I do think Florida is a very interesting choice over them) but if setting changes os the reason they are there how tf is nebraska at 4 lol they have a lot of top recruits on their roster... but they did last year too. I think putting them at 4 may be more about the name on their back bc they look like a huge question mark right now imo what do you think about Texas at 3?
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Post by OHVBKING on Jan 30, 2023 13:52:06 GMT -5
Bold Prediction: LSU will finish second in the SEC. Not sure if that is a bold prediction or wishful thinking. The SEC runs through Kentucky and Florida. They are clearly the best two teams and they are both going to be loaded again next season. I give the edge to Kentucky because they have one of the best Setters in the Country and they addressed their OH Pin with a transfer. At the end of the day their success will be defined by their defense because they should have plenty of offense to beat anyone.
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Post by bballnut90 on Jan 30, 2023 14:02:19 GMT -5
To be fair everyone but Wisconsin and Stanford have big question marks right now. On paper Nebraska is loaded. They have the top setting recruit, top overall recruit on the left, plus the top libero recruit to help with passing. Generally speaking Nebraska had a ton of size and talent to work with. And the setting situation should improve as long as Reilly is healthy. They won’t be without flaw, but I think they deserve to be top 4 preseason based on sheer talent and coaching ability. Louisville is underrated at 11, but a lot of the team’s success is riding on a 3rd year setter who hasn’t seen the court her first 2 years and was the #39 recruit a couple of years ago. They also don’t have offensive production in the middle returning. They don’t appear to have the depth to make changes if Glock isn’t up to par or if they can’t get production out of their middles. I’d rank them a lot higher but I think they have a smaller window for error so I can see why others don’t rank them as high. Are y'all even trying to do research before making comments on what somebody has returning?? Louisville has 2 returning middles Creese and PK Kong at 6”4/6”5 returning to compete for playing time along with a highly rated 6”5 freshman middle Reese Robins.... Their main question mark is setting like everybody else. Sure they're tall but neither Kong nor Cresse produced much offense for Louisville last year. Tillman did and she's gone. No need to be condescending.
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Post by donut on Jan 30, 2023 14:16:49 GMT -5
Louisville an honorable mention for setting changes (glock was a top 5 setter in her class) but Nebraska actually jumps up to number 4 after losing their best setter, best blocker, 2 of their 3 best passers and 3 of their 4 best defenders. 3 of their best serves as well. I just dont understand the logic ig, nebraska has 0 proven passers aside from Rodriguez and 0 proven setters on roster. they have 1 pin who has shown she can consistently terminate for an entire season. not saying Louisville should be higher (although I do think Florida is a very interesting choice over them) but if setting changes os the reason they are there how tf is nebraska at 4 lol they have a lot of top recruits on their roster... but they did last year too. I think putting them at 4 may be more about the name on their back bc they look like a huge question mark right now imo The logic is basically John Cook and the Nebraska team as a whole? It's no shock that Nebraska develops passers and defensive players... so yeah, I have full confidence that Nebraska is a top 5 team. Hard to argue with Nebraska is top 5 because Nebraska!
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Post by rjaege on Jan 30, 2023 15:26:09 GMT -5
The logic is basically John Cook and the Nebraska team as a whole? It's no shock that Nebraska develops passers and defensive players... so yeah, I have full confidence that Nebraska is a top 5 team. Hard to argue with Nebraska is top 5 because Nebraska! Big question with NE is setting. Plan for 2022 was Orr as setter, but it appears lingering knee issues held her back. If that continues, NE will be depending upon Bergan Reilly, very talented player, but a true freshman.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 30, 2023 16:05:21 GMT -5
Louisville an honorable mention for setting changes (glock was a top 5 setter in her class) but Nebraska actually jumps up to number 4 after losing their best setter, best blocker, 2 of their 3 best passers and 3 of their 4 best defenders. 3 of their best serves as well. I just dont understand the logic ig, nebraska has 0 proven passers aside from Rodriguez and 0 proven setters on roster. they have 1 pin who has shown she can consistently terminate for an entire season. not saying Louisville should be higher (although I do think Florida is a very interesting choice over them) but if setting changes os the reason they are there how tf is nebraska at 4 lol they have a lot of top recruits on their roster... but they did last year too. I think putting them at 4 may be more about the name on their back bc they look like a huge question mark right now imo You literally placed them in the 3-7 range in your own top that you said was a tossup lol but then take issue with someone putting them within that same range? I wasnt thinking as hard about how big their question marks are at the time, but I have issue more them being placed as 4 clear and above the next 6. and the reasoning for Louisville dropping out of the top 10 when nebraska has the same, if not more question marks imo didn't make sense to me. im usually hesitant of freshman, and I think people are expecting reilly, choboy, and Murray to be really really good when they might not be as freshman. if all 3 are playing, thats a very important core of players that are replacing the roles that knuckles, hames, and kubik had. im guilty of jumping on the train of thinking top highschoolers are gonna make huge impact as well. sometimes they do, but sometimes they dont. I think they should be a top 10 team by the end of the year, but I also think they could end up with bigger holes than people are anticipating. Nebraska's biggest strength is almost always their passing, defense, and serving. they pretty much all of their most talented players in those areas aside from Rodriguez. they should have the pieces but I just didn't really get why they would be placed over those other teams at this point
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Post by donut on Jan 30, 2023 16:08:05 GMT -5
Hard to argue with Nebraska is top 5 because Nebraska! Big question with NE is setting. Plan for 2022 was Orr as setter, but it appears lingering knee issues held her back. If that continues, NE will be depending upon Bergan Reilly, very talented player, but a true freshman. Nebraska has more than one big question. Most top teams do. Passing, terminal outside hitting, serving, and setting are all Nebraska questions.
I have to imagine that Nebraska will figure out its setting, with two of the top setting recruits of the last 5 years. Terminal outside hitting as well, given the arms on the roster.
Although serve-pass is one of Nebraska's undeniable strengths, it's hyperbole to suggest those concerns are small, irrelevant, etc. just because of Nebraska's training.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 30, 2023 16:12:36 GMT -5
Louisville an honorable mention for setting changes (glock was a top 5 setter in her class) but Nebraska actually jumps up to number 4 after losing their best setter, best blocker, 2 of their 3 best passers and 3 of their 4 best defenders. 3 of their best serves as well. I just dont understand the logic ig, nebraska has 0 proven passers aside from Rodriguez and 0 proven setters on roster. they have 1 pin who has shown she can consistently terminate for an entire season. not saying Louisville should be higher (although I do think Florida is a very interesting choice over them) but if setting changes os the reason they are there how tf is nebraska at 4 lol they have a lot of top recruits on their roster... but they did last year too. I think putting them at 4 may be more about the name on their back bc they look like a huge question mark right now imo what do you think about Texas at 3? I think thats fair for now, id definitely have them in the top 5. their ONLY question mark is setter imo and I think swindle will be 'good enough' as a freshman with some of the arms around her. wenaas and skinner will likely be one of the best OH duos in the ncaa, Phillips has proven to very good, Oneal is a beast, halter akana and barnes are a more talented trio of littles than majority of top teams have (maybe the best). they have some great competition for the second middle spot and Devin could be the best bench pin in the ncaa next year if she isnt a starter. swindle will have to be pretty good for them to be in FF conversation, but imo she won't have to some all-star freshman of the year type player. they should be just fine if she can be just consistently 'good' imo
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Post by hornshouse23 on Jan 30, 2023 17:16:58 GMT -5
Bold Prediction: LSU will finish second in the SEC. Not sure if that is a bold prediction or wishful thinking. The SEC runs through Kentucky and Florida. They are clearly the best two teams and they are both going to be loaded again next season. I give the edge to Kentucky because they have one of the best Setters in the Country and they addressed their OH Pin with a transfer. At the end of the day their success will be defined by their defense because they should have plenty of offense to beat anyone. I believe what you feel, but Kentucky and Florida’s days on top of the SEC are numbered. Even without Texas coming in soon, the margin from too 2 to the rest is considerably narrower the last couple season than ever before. So maybe it’s a bold prediction AND wishful thinking.
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Post by OHVBKING on Jan 30, 2023 17:22:51 GMT -5
The addition of Texas is going to help the SEC and I think will push both Florida and Kentucky to elevate their programs. I just don't see any other SEC programs right now putting the resources into women's volleyball that are needed to be power houses. It will be Florida, Kentucky, and Texas with maybe Texas A&M at the top. LSU might get there but clearly as of now there is a big gap between UK/Florida and the rest of the SEC.
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Post by donut on Jan 30, 2023 17:44:53 GMT -5
Not sure if that is a bold prediction or wishful thinking. The SEC runs through Kentucky and Florida. They are clearly the best two teams and they are both going to be loaded again next season. I give the edge to Kentucky because they have one of the best Setters in the Country and they addressed their OH Pin with a transfer. At the end of the day their success will be defined by their defense because they should have plenty of offense to beat anyone. I believe what you feel, but Kentucky and Florida’s days on top of the SEC are numbered. Even without Texas coming in soon, the margin from too 2 to the rest is considerably narrower the last couple season than ever before. So maybe it’s a bold prediction AND wishful thinking. I think the scheduling is partially to blame for any perceived "narrowing" between Kentucky/Florida and the rest of the pack. Winning back-to-back is hard. Also, the middle of the pack have been taking games from UK/UF for years now (and before that, it was UF/Mizzou).
c4ndlelight has pointed this out before, but Georgia, Auburn, LSU, Tennessee, etc., seem to have made "good" coaching hires and are recruiting well, but we haven't seen sustained consistency yet.
Idk, I think we're seeing a tier 2 emerging in the SEC, but I don't think we'll see that tier 2 challenging UK, UF and UT consistently any time super soon.
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Post by vollectator on Jan 30, 2023 17:52:18 GMT -5
what do you think about Texas at 3? I think thats fair for now, id definitely have them in the top 5. their ONLY question mark is setter imo and I think swindle will be 'good enough' as a freshman with some of the arms around her. wenaas and skinner will likely be one of the best OH duos in the ncaa, Phillips has proven to very good, Oneal is a beast, halter akana and barnes are a more talented trio of littles than majority of top teams have (maybe the best). they have some great competition for the second middle spot and Devin could be the best bench pin in the ncaa next year if she isnt a starter. swindle will have to be pretty good for them to be in FF conversation, but imo she won't have to some all-star freshman of the year type player. they should be just fine if she can be just consistently 'good' imo i recognize that your points about Nebraska were valid, but i noticed you focused on what nebraska lost and what texas has coming in. the reason why i brought up texas was that i perceived the longhorns were very much in the same boat as nebraska. teams with unproven setters are hard to gauge preseason. i think both texas at 3 and nebraska at 4 are on shaky ground.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 30, 2023 18:58:52 GMT -5
I think thats fair for now, id definitely have them in the top 5. their ONLY question mark is setter imo and I think swindle will be 'good enough' as a freshman with some of the arms around her. wenaas and skinner will likely be one of the best OH duos in the ncaa, Phillips has proven to very good, Oneal is a beast, halter akana and barnes are a more talented trio of littles than majority of top teams have (maybe the best). they have some great competition for the second middle spot and Devin could be the best bench pin in the ncaa next year if she isnt a starter. swindle will have to be pretty good for them to be in FF conversation, but imo she won't have to some all-star freshman of the year type player. they should be just fine if she can be just consistently 'good' imo i recognize that your points about Nebraska were valid, but i noticed you focused on what nebraska lost and what texas has coming in. the reason why i brought up texas was that i perceived the longhorns were very much in the same boat as nebraska. teams with unproven setters are hard to gauge preseason. i think both texas at 3 and nebraska at 4 are on shaky ground. but setter isnt the only question mark for nebraska, so its not the same situation at all imo. both are likely to rely on a freshman setter, but texas is pretty fine everywhere else. nebraska doesn't have proven passers, highly terminal pins or middles. beason is the only player on that roster who has shown she can consistently put a ball away and Rodriguez is the only one who's shown she can consistently pass and defend at a high level. texas doesn't have that issue on their roster right now. they have a group of proven passers / defenders and terminal attackers in every position that, as of right now, nebraska does not
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