|
Post by Brutus Buckeye on Feb 2, 2023 20:35:32 GMT -5
First ones I've seen posted.
Any others?
|
|
|
Post by JT on Feb 2, 2023 20:47:52 GMT -5
Impressive that they can charge attendance to a Spring match.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 20:59:51 GMT -5
not them writing we return Wenaas and Booth. the wound didn’t have enough salt thank you
|
|
|
Post by slxpress on Feb 2, 2023 21:59:01 GMT -5
not them writing we return Wenaas and Booth. the wound didn’t have enough salt thank you
|
|
|
Post by horns1 on Feb 2, 2023 22:02:32 GMT -5
I thought Spring matches were limited to teams within a limited driving distance between each other's campuses or something like that. Different for Hawaii based on not being in the mainland?
|
|
|
Post by texaslonghorns on Feb 2, 2023 22:09:00 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by ay2013 on Feb 2, 2023 22:38:37 GMT -5
Impressive that they can charge attendance to a Spring match. I think it's more impressive that a non-revenue generating program is willing to spend tens of thousands of dollars to fly the vb team 4,000 miles for a few days to play an exhibition match that doesn't count for anything. Perhaps that program budget shortfall that was posted in the Minnesota thread is more accurate than people think.
|
|
|
Post by ay2013 on Feb 2, 2023 22:45:59 GMT -5
I thought Spring matches were limited to teams within a limited driving distance between each other's campuses or something like that. Different for Hawaii based on not being in the mainland? There is a Hawaii/Alaska Exception for spring competition: 17.26.7.1 Maximum Limitations -- Institutional. A member institution shall limit its total playing schedule with outside competition in women's volleyball during the playing season to 28 dates of competition during the segment in which the NCAA championship is conducted and four during another segment, except for those dates of competition excluded under Bylaws 17.26.9 and 17.26.10. Travel to competition in the nonchampionship segment shall be restricted to ground transportation, unless there are no Division I institutions that sponsor the sport located within 400 miles of the institution. (Revised: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/91, 4/29/10 effective 8/1/10) 17.26.7.1.1 Exception -- Isolated Institution. If there are fewer that four other Division I institutions that sponsor women's volleyball located within 400 miles of the institution, the institution may use any form of transportation to travel to the number of nonchampionship segment competitions that represents the difference between the number of other institutions and four. (Adopted: 4/25/18) 17.26.7.1.2 Hawaii or Alaska Exception -- Nonchampionship Segment Travel. Once every four years, an institution may use any form of transportation for travel to Hawaii or Alaska for nonchampionship segment competition against an active member institution located in Hawaii or Alaska. (Adopted: 4/28/11 effective 8/1/11)
|
|
|
Post by Montour Meteor on Feb 2, 2023 22:48:01 GMT -5
Impressive that they can charge attendance to a Spring match. I think it's more impressive that a non-revenue generating program is willing to spend tens of thousands of dollars to fly the vb team 4,000 miles for a few days to play an exhibition match that doesn't count for anything. Perhaps that program budget shortfall that was posted in the Minnesota thread is more accurate than people think. I absolutely agree. What AD signs off on sending a team for a vacation in Hawaii. Minnesota can find better competition within their radius that NCAA recommends.
|
|
|
Post by ay2013 on Feb 2, 2023 22:52:10 GMT -5
I think it's more impressive that a non-revenue generating program is willing to spend tens of thousands of dollars to fly the vb team 4,000 miles for a few days to play an exhibition match that doesn't count for anything. Perhaps that program budget shortfall that was posted in the Minnesota thread is more accurate than people think. I absolutely agree. What AD signs off on sending a team for a vacation in Hawaii. Minnesota can find better competition within their radius that NCAA recommends. an AD that gets to benefit from Ohio State/Michigan/Penn State football money. Also, to be clear, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Minnesota is clearly allocating a ton of money into womens volleyball (this was obvious when they not only well exceeded what Washington was paying him but also bought out the remainder of the contract...), which is great for the Minnesota volleyball program. But from that report about the public expenditures of the specific programs, among the usual elite volleyball schools, Minnesota runs a signifigantly higher budget decifit for its womens volleyball program than most other programs. Their investment in womens volleyball is clear and quantifiable - whether that translates to more success is a different story, but in the interim, they are spending that extra Big 10 money like crazy for the vb program.
|
|
|
Post by BigDigEnergy on Feb 3, 2023 2:31:28 GMT -5
I absolutely agree. What AD signs off on sending a team for a vacation in Hawaii. Minnesota can find better competition within their radius that NCAA recommends. an AD that gets to benefit from Ohio State/Michigan/Penn State football money. Also, to be clear, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Minnesota is clearly allocating a ton of money into womens volleyball (this was obvious when they not only well exceeded what Washington was paying him but also bought out the remainder of the contract...), which is great for the Minnesota volleyball program. But from that report about the public expenditures of the specific programs, among the usual elite volleyball schools, Minnesota runs a signifigantly higher budget decifit for its womens volleyball program than most other programs. Their investment in womens volleyball is clear and quantifiable - whether that translates to more success is a different story, but in the interim, they are spending that extra Big 10 money like crazy for the vb program. Volleyball is the MN’s state sport (besides Hockey maybe) and it has acknowledged by the AD and even coach Cook himself. I am not too surprised that they are doing that. This might have been an alternative to traveling aboard (which might be overdue becoz of Covid) like some other schools are doing like Wisconsin to Europe this summer. About your point with benefiting from football money, it’s not like it’s an anomaly here with MN. It’s what you get from being a part of the Big10. I don’t know why you need to put it in a way Minnesota is doing something outrageous. I am glad that they are treating their athletes right.
|
|
|
Post by ay2013 on Feb 3, 2023 3:19:43 GMT -5
an AD that gets to benefit from Ohio State/Michigan/Penn State football money. Also, to be clear, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Minnesota is clearly allocating a ton of money into womens volleyball (this was obvious when they not only well exceeded what Washington was paying him but also bought out the remainder of the contract...), which is great for the Minnesota volleyball program. But from that report about the public expenditures of the specific programs, among the usual elite volleyball schools, Minnesota runs a signifigantly higher budget decifit for its womens volleyball program than most other programs. Their investment in womens volleyball is clear and quantifiable - whether that translates to more success is a different story, but in the interim, they are spending that extra Big 10 money like crazy for the vb program. Volleyball is the MN’s state sport (besides Hockey maybe) and it has acknowledged by the AD and even coach Cook himself. I am not too surprised that they are doing that. This might have been an alternative to traveling aboard (which might be overdue becoz of Covid) like some other schools are doing like Wisconsin to Europe this summer. About your point with benefiting from football money, it’s not like it’s an anomaly here with MN. It’s what you get from being a part of the Big10. I don’t know why you need to put it in a way Minnesota is doing something outrageous. I am glad that they are treating their athletes right. Well, I said directly in my post that Minnesota spending the extra Big 10 football money it great for the volleyball program. Re "treating their athletes right", I'm not sure what that's implying. Flying to Hawaii for a spring match for the weekend or buying out a different coaches contract just because you happen to have extra money doesn't seem to have much to do with "treating athletes right".
|
|
|
Post by BigDigEnergy on Feb 3, 2023 3:28:15 GMT -5
Volleyball is the MN’s state sport (besides Hockey maybe) and it has acknowledged by the AD and even coach Cook himself. I am not too surprised that they are doing that. This might have been an alternative to traveling aboard (which might be overdue becoz of Covid) like some other schools are doing like Wisconsin to Europe this summer. About your point with benefiting from football money, it’s not like it’s an anomaly here with MN. It’s what you get from being a part of the Big10. I don’t know why you need to put it in a way Minnesota is doing something outrageous. I am glad that they are treating their athletes right. Well, I said directly in my post that Minnesota spending the extra Big 10 football money it great for the volleyball program. Re "treating their athletes right", I'm not sure what that's implying. Flying to Hawaii for a spring match for the weekend or buying out a different coaches contract just because you happen to have extra money doesn't seem to have much to do with "treating athletes right". Treating the athletes right in a sense that they should have already been on a foreign trip but might not be able to do it, so a trip to Hawaii might be a way to go. They will get to play a few (two) matches so not one like you said, plus this can be a great bonding quality time for these athletes and the new coaches. Also for a school that is willing to pay a coach more than his previous school and to get the best coaches they can get who also seem to fit their culture very well speaks very clearly about the school values and priority which is to make sure that their athletes have the best coaches possible and fortunately MN has the money to do so.
|
|
|
Post by vbnerd on Feb 3, 2023 10:32:35 GMT -5
FTR: Not a weekend - they play on a Tuesday and Wednesday of UM's Spring Break.
This is not a business trip.
|
|
|
Post by bruinsgold on Feb 3, 2023 14:14:36 GMT -5
|
|