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Post by 25or624 on Jun 24, 2023 14:49:55 GMT -5
In re the weird quote thing v. quote / function button, I offer this defense:
"Semolina Pilchard Climbing up the Eiffel tower Elementary penguin singing Hare Krishna Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe
I am the egg man They are the egg men I am the walrus Goo goo g'joob, goo goo goo g'joob ..."
And I will have Freedom Fries with that.
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Post by Kingsley on Jun 24, 2023 14:49:59 GMT -5
And my top 3 that I saw on the RS - all 3 still on the board: 1. Abigail Mullen - Dynasty 2. Charlotte Vinson - Munciana 3. Jordan Smith - Rockwood Thunder I know a lot has been talked about #1 on this list - but IMO #2 is every bit as good of a prospect. And #3 is very close - all three have a chance of being great at the next level. Appreciate your sharing your view. Care to share some reasons you rate Vinson and Smith over Ryan Hunter, Hannah Beauford or Addison Gaido? Beauford’s future is at setter.
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Post by slxpress on Jun 24, 2023 15:11:50 GMT -5
Guys, can we hold off on derailing this thread into yet another space where Texas, Nebraska .....Wisconsin isn't in the same realm of Texas and Nebraska... Stanford or Penn State, You should thank your luck stars on illegal transfer waivers per interconference transfers. And COVID. yall lost when your girls were seniors and played a full 4 years. It took another rule bend by the ncaa to receive your illegitimate trophy.... 😀 you're not in the same category as Texas, keep dreaming. exit237a is an Illinois fan. A really good one at that. They don’t have a dog In this fight, which is part of why they’re kindly asking the Badger, Longhorn, Nebraska fans to cease and desist.
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Post by bluepenquin on Jun 24, 2023 15:15:00 GMT -5
And my top 3 that I saw on the RS - all 3 still on the board: 1. Abigail Mullen - Dynasty 2. Charlotte Vinson - Munciana 3. Jordan Smith - Rockwood Thunder I know a lot has been talked about #1 on this list - but IMO #2 is every bit as good of a prospect. And #3 is very close - all three have a chance of being great at the next level. Appreciate your sharing your view. Care to share some reasons you rate Vinson and Smith over Ryan Hunter, Hannah Beauford or Addison Gaido? Didn't see Hunter or Gaido. I didn't notice Beuford to be on the level of those other two. There are a lot of impact players that I am missing - and the 3 you mentioned could be among them. That said - Vinson is really good - and what made her look even more special - she was playing with the 18's and was more than holding her own - she was among the best players on the floor.
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Post by bluepenquin on Jun 24, 2023 15:20:42 GMT -5
Appreciate your sharing your view. Care to share some reasons you rate Vinson and Smith over Ryan Hunter, Hannah Beauford or Addison Gaido? Beauford’s future is at setter. Figured that was the case - I doubt I rated her - similar to Horner (1st Alliance) since they were also setting. Horner was very noticeable as an impact club player - have no idea how she translates as a college setter only - probably very well? Translating club setting to D1 seems much harder to me than OH or RS to D1. Orr was the best club setter I have seen in person - I would have projected her to be an elite setter in college. I was also big on Cabello.
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Post by jwvolley on Jun 24, 2023 15:25:46 GMT -5
Beauford’s future is at setter. Figured that was the case - I doubt I rated her - similar to Horner (1st Alliance) since they were also setting. Horner was very noticeable as an impact club player - have no idea how she translates as a college setter only - probably very well? Translating club setting to D1 seems much harder to me than OH or RS to D1. Orr was the best club setter I have seen in person - I would have projected her to be an elite setter in college. I was also big on Cabello. Too soon, Blue. Too soon.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jun 24, 2023 15:35:05 GMT -5
Beauford’s future is at setter. Figured that was the case - I doubt I rated her - similar to Horner (1st Alliance) since they were also setting. Horner was very noticeable as an impact club player - have no idea how she translates as a college setter only - probably very well? Translating club setting to D1 seems much harder to me than OH or RS to D1. Orr was the best club setter I have seen in person - I would have projected her to be an elite setter in college. I was also big on Cabello. Cabello is such a major head scratcher… no big injuries that we know about right? it’s one thing not to crack the lineup at Texas, but she wasn’t even trusted to run a 5-1 at NC State…
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Post by practicesafesets on Jun 24, 2023 15:42:12 GMT -5
Below was my top 11 OH in this class that I watched at the NIT this year in February. This is just my opinion based on what I saw in just one day. It doesn't include the many players I didn't get to see and any player that wasn't at the TC tournament this year. Any of these players on this list could end up being an AA in college - there is a ton of talent and very few (just 3) have given a commitment yet. 1. Suli Davis - Drive Nation 2. Abby Vander Wal - 1st Alliance (Texas) 3. Madison Quest - MKE (Wisconsin) 4. Teraya Sigler - Arizona Storm (Nebraska) 5. Samera Coleman - Houston Skyline 6. Kaci Demaria - Surfside 7. Devyn Wiest - Arizona Storm 8. Bailey Warren - Houston Sklyline 9. Marcia Spears - TAV 10. Megan Fitch - Alamo 11. Sydney Bryant - Houston Juniors The point isn't the accuracy of my rating - but just how many great players are left. Also kind of interesting to me - the 3 that went were in my top 4 going to those premier programs (Nebraska, Texas, and Wisconsin). Can Suli Davis pass and play D well?
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Post by hipsterfilth on Jun 24, 2023 15:45:47 GMT -5
In re the weird quote thing v. quote / function button, I offer this defense: "Semolina Pilchard Climbing up the Eiffel tower Elementary penguin singing Hare Krishna Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe
I am the egg man They are the egg men I am the walrus Goo goo g'joob, goo goo goo g'joob ..."
And I will have Freedom Fries with that.
Wait which poster said this again?
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Post by Kingsley on Jun 24, 2023 15:48:28 GMT -5
In re the weird quote thing v. quote / function button, I offer this defense: "Semolina Pilchard Climbing up the Eiffel tower Elementary penguin singing Hare Krishna Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allen Poe
I am the egg man They are the egg men I am the walrus Goo goo g'joob, goo goo goo g'joob ..."
And I will have Freedom Fries with that.
Wait which poster said this again? Sounds like dirtrider.
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Post by deyidecem on Jun 24, 2023 15:48:57 GMT -5
Below was my top 11 OH in this class that I watched at the NIT this year in February. This is just my opinion based on what I saw in just one day. It doesn't include the many players I didn't get to see and any player that wasn't at the TC tournament this year. Any of these players on this list could end up being an AA in college - there is a ton of talent and very few (just 3) have given a commitment yet. 1. Suli Davis - Drive Nation 2. Abby Vander Wal - 1st Alliance (Texas) 3. Madison Quest - MKE (Wisconsin) 4. Teraya Sigler - Arizona Storm (Nebraska) 5. Samera Coleman - Houston Skyline 6. Kaci Demaria - Surfside 7. Devyn Wiest - Arizona Storm 8. Bailey Warren - Houston Sklyline 9. Marcia Spears - TAV 10. Megan Fitch - Alamo 11. Sydney Bryant - Houston Juniors The point isn't the accuracy of my rating - but just how many great players are left. Also kind of interesting to me - the 3 that went were in my top 4 going to those premier programs (Nebraska, Texas, and Wisconsin). Can Suli Davis pass and play D well? Yes. True 6ro player in my opinion. Edit: Also, from what I have seen Hannah Beauford is a setter first and rarely plays opp. Not sure how Prepdig scouted her at opp.
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Post by hipsterfilth on Jun 24, 2023 15:51:44 GMT -5
Figured that was the case - I doubt I rated her - similar to Horner (1st Alliance) since they were also setting. Horner was very noticeable as an impact club player - have no idea how she translates as a college setter only - probably very well? Translating club setting to D1 seems much harder to me than OH or RS to D1. Orr was the best club setter I have seen in person - I would have projected her to be an elite setter in college. I was also big on Cabello. Cabello is such a major head scratcher… no big injuries that we know about right? it’s one thing not to crack the lineup at Texas, but she wasn’t even trusted to run a 5-1 at NC State… Is there something jelliott teaches that overcomplicates setting? Cabello got Shook'd. They both just always seemed to lack confidence to me. Same with Orr the last two years. I wonder if they had club / hs coaches who were just really chill and then they walked into an intense environment and started overthinking things?
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Post by slxpress on Jun 24, 2023 16:10:46 GMT -5
Cabello is such a major head scratcher… no big injuries that we know about right? it’s one thing not to crack the lineup at Texas, but she wasn’t even trusted to run a 5-1 at NC State… Is there something jelliott teaches that overcomplicates setting? Cabello got Shook'd. They both just always seemed to lack confidence to me. Same with Orr the last two years. I wonder if they had club / hs coaches who were just really chill and then they walked into an intense environment and started overthinking things? I can only go on speculation, so your speculation is as accurate as mine. I can't really speak to Cabello because we saw so little of her. To me she transferred because she rightly saw she would have no real chance as the starting setter once they brought in SKT. I'd put more blame on Elliott for her development if she had figured out a way to shine at North Carolina State, but she didn't. I'd hoped she would, honestly. With Shook it just seemed like neither she nor the coaches/roster set her up to succeed. She was given the keys to the car from the word go. No real competition for the spot. But she chose to play on her club team that summer to help give her club teammates their best chance to showcase themselves. Admirable to be sure, but showing up on campus as late as she did as a starting freshman setter sure didn't do anyone involved any favors. Texas was a particularly poor passing team that year (cue legitimate jokes on UT's passing over the years). Ashley just didn't have the mobility with her setting, nor did she have the connection with her hitters, to pull it off. Elliott gave her every chance in the world, but it just never quite clicked. Gabriel was much better running around with her hair on fire while still setting a hittable ball, so in the end she won the job. Elliott worked hard to find Shook a place to finish out her eligibility in beach (ended up at Washington), then Shook took a job at LSU with Tonya Johnson, so whatever Shook's feelings about her experience, there's no outward sign of bitterness towards the Texas coaching staff. Doesn't mean there isn't any, but she's never indicated it in any way. Sometimes things don't work out. We'll see how it goes with Swindle. Early signs are very encouraging, but we'll all have to wait until the season for any real conclusions.
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Post by xlumie on Jun 24, 2023 16:40:52 GMT -5
Beauford’s future is at setter. Figured that was the case - I doubt I rated her - similar to Horner (1st Alliance) since they were also setting. Horner was very noticeable as an impact club player - have no idea how she translates as a college setter only - probably very well? Translating club setting to D1 seems much harder to me than OH or RS to D1. Orr was the best club setter I have seen in person - I would have projected her to be an elite setter in college. I was also big on Cabello. You just made me search up Orr's club videos, she got called for a double within her first 5 sets LOL (15s AAU final).
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jun 24, 2023 16:49:29 GMT -5
Cabello is such a major head scratcher… no big injuries that we know about right? it’s one thing not to crack the lineup at Texas, but she wasn’t even trusted to run a 5-1 at NC State… Same with Orr the last two years. I wonder if they had club / hs coaches who were just really chill and then they walked into an intense environment and started overthinking things? I can guarantee you, Orr's hs coach was not "chill".
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