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Post by digs on Jun 25, 2023 23:18:18 GMT -5
John Tawa did a superb job of communicating with sources and calculating an excellent ranking of recruits. For some reason, nobody else has the knowledge to make this happen. Quite honestly, the current lists by money-making websites are a joke. It definitely takes a lot of work and a strong network to compile anything resembling credible rankings. Tawa is a great example. PrepDig is getting better at this as they build out a true network of regional scouts who can get to know not just the regional athletes but the club and college coaches who can provide so much insight and context. But it’s definitely a work in progress. And I honestly don’t know what PrepVolleyball is doing. Given the size of their platform and past reputation, I’d hope for better.
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Post by VBallLife on Jun 26, 2023 0:14:42 GMT -5
John Tawa did a superb job of communicating with sources and calculating an excellent ranking of recruits. For some reason, nobody else has the knowledge to make this happen. Quite honestly, the current lists by money-making websites are a joke. It definitely takes a lot of work and a strong network to compile anything resembling credible rankings. Tawa is a great example. PrepDig is getting better at this as they build out a true network of regional scouts who can get to know not just the regional athletes but the club and college coaches who can provide so much insight and context. But it’s definitely a work in progress. And I honestly don’t know what PrepVolleyball is doing. Given the size of their platform and past reputation, I’d hope for better. PrepDig has some big discrepancies with high regional rankings for kids,yet they wouldn’t be ranked nationally a serious red flag 🚩.
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Post by dogmomx3 on Jun 26, 2023 9:55:32 GMT -5
John Tawa did a superb job of communicating with sources and calculating an excellent ranking of recruits. For some reason, nobody else has the knowledge to make this happen. Quite honestly, the current lists by money-making websites are a joke. It definitely takes a lot of work and a strong network to compile anything resembling credible rankings. Tawa is a great example. PrepDig is getting better at this as they build out a true network of regional scouts who can get to know not just the regional athletes but the club and college coaches who can provide so much insight and context. But it’s definitely a work in progress. And I honestly don’t know what PrepVolleyball is doing. Given the size of their platform and past reputation, I’d hope for better. I think it depends on the state you're in for Prep Dig. Personally, in the state we reside, I think PD does a really great job. They have provided our girls so much coverage over the years, hosted multiple in state tournaments, have been extremely visible both at in state and out of state qualifiers, etc. Their rankings seem pretty spot on too.
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Post by digs on Jun 26, 2023 10:06:49 GMT -5
It definitely takes a lot of work and a strong network to compile anything resembling credible rankings. Tawa is a great example. PrepDig is getting better at this as they build out a true network of regional scouts who can get to know not just the regional athletes but the club and college coaches who can provide so much insight and context. But it’s definitely a work in progress. And I honestly don’t know what PrepVolleyball is doing. Given the size of their platform and past reputation, I’d hope for better. PrepDig has some big discrepancies with high regional rankings for kids,yet they wouldn’t be ranked nationally a serious red flag 🚩. Agreed, but that’s exactly what I meant by “work in progress”. Some PD regions are extremely well covered and ranked. Others not so much. But I believe that overall they’re trending upward.
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Post by wonkaman on Jun 26, 2023 17:11:18 GMT -5
Player rankings can be like team seedings. Sometimes you get them right and other times chaos reigns.
Virginia Elite ranked number 4 in their pool and 1172 nationally (according to AES) went 3-0 in 16 Open in AAU. They beat Team Pineapple Black (the number 1 seed and ranked number 31 nationally according to AES) 25-20 and 26-24.
If I was a ranker and ranking players for that one match imagine the possibilities.
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Post by VBallLife on Jun 26, 2023 17:40:29 GMT -5
PrepDig has some big discrepancies with high regional rankings for kids,yet they wouldn’t be ranked nationally,is a serious red flag 🚩. Agreed, but that’s exactly what I meant by “work in progress”. Some PD regions are extremely well covered and ranked. Others not so much. But I believe that overall they’re trending upward.
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Post by kiyoat on Jun 27, 2023 10:56:41 GMT -5
So, it looks like if we go by PrepDig's rankings, 10 of the top-20 players have committed, with a total in D-1 of about 40 verbals so far, with a handful of P-5 schools down to just one or two more openings (according to the Commits thread on VT). In terms of frequency, there seems to have been an initial rush of commits, followed by a slow trickle. Would you guys expect to see an uptick in mid to late July, following team camps, and the "domino effect" of first options turning into second and third options (both schools and players)? or will it stay as a trickle for several months? Also, August starting the official and unofficial visits period would seem like a time for an uptick in commits? Just curious what the rest of the summer usually looks like.
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Post by huskerjen on Jun 27, 2023 11:27:16 GMT -5
So, it looks like if we go by PrepDig's rankings, 10 of the top-20 players have committed, with a total in D-1 of about 40 verbals so far, with a handful of P-5 schools down to just one or two more openings (according to the Commits thread on VT). In terms of frequency, there seems to have been an initial rush of commits, followed by a slow trickle. Would you guys expect to see an uptick in mid to late July, following team camps, and the "domino effect" of first options turning into second and third options (both schools and players)? or will it stay as a trickle for several months? Also, August starting the official and unofficial visits period would seem like a time for an uptick in commits? Just curious what the rest of the summer usually looks like. You will probably see the next rush from mid-July through late-August. Camps in July and official visits starting in August.
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Post by Friday on Jun 27, 2023 13:36:50 GMT -5
I think we will see a bunch after camps in the coming weeks. Coaches will finish up evaluations at AAUs and JOs and start putting more offers out. I've heard from several PSAs that the process is wearing on them - the calls, the emails, the videos - and would rather be "done" sooner rather than later especially once school starts back up.
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Post by babybacksets on Jun 27, 2023 15:11:51 GMT -5
“Don’t be another midwestern girl who goes out to California and comes back with her tail between her legs and if you do, don’t call me”
- John Cook
Lol yea, Abigail Mullen just join your sister in Westwood 😰
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 27, 2023 15:21:03 GMT -5
“Don’t be another midwestern girl who goes to California with her tail between her legs and if you do, don’t call me” - John Cook I mean sure, if we are adding to the book of jerk things John Cook says or does, ok, but it's not like him being an a** hole is a secret in the volleyball community. The problem is that many recruits don't care. At this point there is too much fame and fortune surrounding playing for Nebraska for recruits to be bothered by whether or not they actually like John Cook. He may be a lot of unsavory things (most recently a bitter liar, see Caffey), but he's also a winner, and that can be tough to overcome.
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Post by 25or624 on Jun 27, 2023 15:50:02 GMT -5
In a world crying out for checks and balances, those of us who are not John Cook disciples are thankful for Kelly Sheffield.
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Post by haterade on Jun 27, 2023 16:05:08 GMT -5
Not a fan of Cook saying this to a 17 year old at all, but let's get the quote correct.
"Okay don't be another midwestern girl that goes out to California and then comes back with her tail between her legs. And if you do, don't call me".
That's materially different than what posted above. Not here to defend the statement. A simple, "that's a fine university, good luck in your future" should have been enough. Also, was any projecting going on here... since his daughter went to UCLA, and came back
And the context around the comment and her desire to play on a competitive beach team matters. He's implying that midwestern girls who go to cali and don't have success; come back wanting to play indoor. And he has no desire to coach those that do. Still not something to say to a PSA imo.
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Post by rjaege on Jun 27, 2023 16:07:38 GMT -5
“Don’t be another midwestern girl who goes to California with her tail between her legs and if you do, don’t call me” - John Cook I mean sure, if we are adding to the book of jerk things John Cook says or does, ok, but it's not like him being an a** hole is a secret in the volleyball community. The problem is that many recruits don't care. At this point there is too much fame and fortune surrounding playing for Nebraska for recruits to be bothered by whether or not they actually like John Cook. He may be a lot of unsavory things (most recently a bitter liar, see Caffey), but he's also a winner, and that can be tough to overcome. It appears that the vast majority of NE players have a good relationship with Coach Cook, their team mates, Asst Coaches and other staff. Coach Cook critics focus on the bad. Some true, some not true, some exaggerated or speculated. Nobody is perfect including Coach Cook, and his critics, most of which are jealous of his success. Again IMO.
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Post by kiyoat on Jun 27, 2023 16:25:20 GMT -5
Forget the John Cook comments, for me the more shockingly offensive comments were later in the interview... "let's rank the Midwest states... which states are Midwest?.... no, we aren't doing the Dakotas, they're, what do you call it? Flyover?.... (then they also forget to include Ohio and Kansas).... Wait. Are the Dakotas in the Midwest? Really?
Shocking lack of basic geography knowledge.... SMH
Say what you want about John Cook, but the dude knows where South Dakota is, and actually recruits there, too.
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