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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jul 9, 2023 19:11:54 GMT -5
"Will be interesting given she is scheduled to be in another major school's elite camp after Dream Team Camp this week." Name the school please. I'm hoping it will be poor old, second-tier Wisconsin. They only have 4 awesome 2025 recruits to this point. Thank you. I mean does it matter? At this point Wisconsin could play me on one of the pins and beat Nebraska Savage
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Post by slxpress on Jul 9, 2023 19:18:38 GMT -5
The talk of tier one vs tier two schools for recruiting makes me chuckle… what makes NCAA volleyball so much fun to follow lately is top talent spreading out to other schools. There are a lot of great programs out there with great coaches and the potential to win it all and every recruit just wants what feels like the best school for them. Personally, I’m hoping the rest of the top names go to “second tier” or even -gasp- “third tier” schools… Spears to LSU sounds like a great choice to me I personally do not think of other schools as tier 2 or tier 3. The fact remains those three top schools in recruiting very rarely lose any recruiting battles other than to each other. That’s all it means. It doesn’t mean they’re better in any other way. Obviously there are factors allowing them to get first dibs regarding the players they bring in, but it doesn’t put them on an untouchable tier...except in recruiting. I’ll be shocked if Spears doesn’t end up at Texas. I think it’s fair to say everyone will be. I think it would be entertaining from a neutral fan following recruiting perspective, but I consider it highly unlikely. That said, there’s plenty of talent out there, and plenty of factors go into creating a successful program other than getting first choice among recruits. I said it earlier, but the pros put way more resources and have a lot more at stake when measuring talent, and they get it wrong all the time. Still, if you ask a pro team would they rather have the #1 draft choice or the #5 draft choice, they’re going to choose the #1 spot, even if they end up screwing it up. I’ll also say being dominant in recruiting has certainly had an impact on the teams those programs put on the court. They don’t win every match, but they’ve all been winning consistently at a high rate for a long time. In addition, as of right now Nebraska and Texas are best situated to take advantage of the NIL environment, which will help both of them retain their current recruiting dominance. Doesn’t mean that will extend to their performance on the court, but it’s an important factor to be sure.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jul 9, 2023 19:41:41 GMT -5
The talk of tier one vs tier two schools for recruiting makes me chuckle… what makes NCAA volleyball so much fun to follow lately is top talent spreading out to other schools. There are a lot of great programs out there with great coaches and the potential to win it all and every recruit just wants what feels like the best school for them. Personally, I’m hoping the rest of the top names go to “second tier” or even -gasp- “third tier” schools… Spears to LSU sounds like a great choice to me I personally do not think of other schools as tier 2 or tier 3. The fact remains those three top schools in recruiting very rarely lose any recruiting battles other than to each other. That’s all it means. It doesn’t mean they’re better in any other way. Obviously there are factors allowing them to get first dibs regarding the players they bring in, but it doesn’t put them on an untouchable tier...except in recruiting. Does Stanford lose a lot of recruiting battles? I gotta think, for a PSA with the academics to qualify for Stanford, it's a slam-dunk.
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Post by slxpress on Jul 9, 2023 19:47:33 GMT -5
I personally do not think of other schools as tier 2 or tier 3. The fact remains those three top schools in recruiting very rarely lose any recruiting battles other than to each other. That’s all it means. It doesn’t mean they’re better in any other way. Obviously there are factors allowing them to get first dibs regarding the players they bring in, but it doesn’t put them on an untouchable tier...except in recruiting. Does Stanford lose a lot of recruiting battles? I gotta think, for a PSA with the academics to qualify for Stanford, it's a slam-dunk. Not many, but some. And yeah, as a Texas fan I Fear the Tree when it comes to recruiting, for sure. Their problem is two fold. First, they have to academically qualify. Second, they won’t know if they qualify for sure until after the recruiting cycle is pretty much over, whereas for the vast majority of schools it’s a done deal. I’d feel more sympathy for them if they weren’t so outstanding in recruiting. I hate going against Stanford in recruiting, frankly, in pretty much any sport.
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Post by widdledumpling on Jul 9, 2023 19:55:06 GMT -5
Does Stanford lose a lot of recruiting battles? I gotta think, for a PSA with the academics to qualify for Stanford, it's a slam-dunk. Not many, but some. And yeah, as a Texas fan I Fear the Tree when it comes to recruiting, for sure. Their problem is two fold. First, they have to academically qualify. Second, they won’t know if they qualify for sure until after the recruiting cycle is pretty much over, whereas for the vast majority of schools it’s a done deal. I’d feel more sympathy for them if they weren’t so outstanding in recruiting. I hate going against Stanford in recruiting, frankly, in pretty much any sport. I fear the tree for other reasons
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Post by bigjohn043 on Jul 9, 2023 19:55:41 GMT -5
The talk of tier one vs tier two schools for recruiting makes me chuckle… what makes NCAA volleyball so much fun to follow lately is top talent spreading out to other schools. There are a lot of great programs out there with great coaches and the potential to win it all and every recruit just wants what feels like the best school for them. Personally, I’m hoping the rest of the top names go to “second tier” or even -gasp- “third tier” schools… Spears to LSU sounds like a great choice to me I personally do not think of other schools as tier 2 or tier 3. The fact remains those three top schools in recruiting very rarely lose any recruiting battles other than to each other. That’s all it means. It doesn’t mean they’re better in any other way. Obviously there are factors allowing them to get first dibs regarding the players they bring in, but it doesn’t put them on an untouchable tier...except in recruiting. Nebraska just lost a player to Minnesota. All of even the top schools lose players all of the time. Stanford probably loses the least because the academics are pretty self selecting. For this year, Harvey's older sister is starting as a freshman in the fall so you would think we have a good shot with her. DeMaria is from Palos Verdes. If she can qualify the allure of Stanford will be very hard to beat.
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Post by slxpress on Jul 9, 2023 20:01:26 GMT -5
Not many, but some. And yeah, as a Texas fan I Fear the Tree when it comes to recruiting, for sure. Their problem is two fold. First, they have to academically qualify. Second, they won’t know if they qualify for sure until after the recruiting cycle is pretty much over, whereas for the vast majority of schools it’s a done deal. I’d feel more sympathy for them if they weren’t so outstanding in recruiting. I hate going against Stanford in recruiting, frankly, in pretty much any sport. I fear the tree for other reasons I love their mascot so much.
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Post by tedheise on Jul 9, 2023 20:03:47 GMT -5
The talk of tier one vs tier two schools for recruiting makes me chuckle… what makes NCAA volleyball so much fun to follow lately is top talent spreading out to other schools. There are a lot of great programs out there with great coaches and the potential to win it all and every recruit just wants what feels like the best school for them. gotta agree with this. the sport is really growing, and the ongoing increase in number of great athletes shows no sign of slowing.
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Post by slxpress on Jul 9, 2023 20:07:15 GMT -5
The talk of tier one vs tier two schools for recruiting makes me chuckle… what makes NCAA volleyball so much fun to follow lately is top talent spreading out to other schools. There are a lot of great programs out there with great coaches and the potential to win it all and every recruit just wants what feels like the best school for them. gotta agree with this. the sport is really growing, and the ongoing increase in number of great athletes shows no sign of slowing. When three schools consistently get first dibs on which players they bring into their program, there’s a distinction between them and everyone else when it comes to recruiting.
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Post by reddwolf on Jul 9, 2023 20:10:31 GMT -5
On the note of recruiting visits, I heard some schools were flying west to use VNL this week in Anaheim as a place to meet up with recruits. How? I’m not sure. Flew in after nationals, meet up with some club coaches, show off, make an appearance at VNL to establish the “USA pipeline…” hey, why not.
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Post by katn on Jul 9, 2023 20:38:50 GMT -5
I personally do not think of other schools as tier 2 or tier 3. The fact remains those three top schools in recruiting very rarely lose any recruiting battles other than to each other. That’s all it means. It doesn’t mean they’re better in any other way. Obviously there are factors allowing them to get first dibs regarding the players they bring in, but it doesn’t put them on an untouchable tier...except in recruiting. Nebraska just lost a player to Minnesota. All of even the top schools lose players all of the time. Stanford probably loses the least because the academics are pretty self selecting. For this year, Harvey's older sister is starting as a freshman in the fall so you would think we have a good shot with her. DeMaria is from Palos Verdes. If she can qualify the allure of Stanford will be very hard to beat. what player are you referring to (that went to minnesota instead of nebraska)?
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Post by cbrown1709 on Jul 9, 2023 20:41:54 GMT -5
Nebraska just lost a player to Minnesota. All of even the top schools lose players all of the time. Stanford probably loses the least because the academics are pretty self selecting. For this year, Harvey's older sister is starting as a freshman in the fall so you would think we have a good shot with her. DeMaria is from Palos Verdes. If she can qualify the allure of Stanford will be very hard to beat. what player are you referring to (that went to minnesota instead of nebraska)? I assume they are referring to Kelly Kinney.
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Post by katn on Jul 9, 2023 20:52:26 GMT -5
what player are you referring to (that went to minnesota instead of nebraska)? I assume they are referring to Kelly Kinney. did nebraska offer her? or were they waiting to see what happens with spears
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Post by haterade on Jul 9, 2023 20:54:59 GMT -5
I assume they are referring to Kelly Kinney. did nebraska offer her? or were they waiting to see what happens with spears No, they didn’t offer her. It’s tough to say they lost her when they offered Sigler at her position. Anyway, she’ll be a great fit at MN.
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Post by bigjohn043 on Jul 9, 2023 21:11:01 GMT -5
did nebraska offer her? or were they waiting to see what happens with spears No, they didn’t offer her. It’s tough to say they lost her when they offered Sigler at her position. Anyway, she’ll be a great fit at MN. What makes you say this?
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