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Post by avid 2.0 on Jun 14, 2023 11:24:30 GMT -5
avid 2.0 When time permits, please update the rosters on page 1. Thank you. I think they're updated now. (unless im forgetting someone)
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Post by huskerjen on Jun 14, 2023 11:26:10 GMT -5
avid 2.0 When time permits, please update the rosters on page 1. Thank you. I think they're updated now. (unless im forgetting someone) Thank you, much appreciated!
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Post by jimboslice on Jun 14, 2023 11:46:14 GMT -5
I still hate the idea of Jason Derulo owning a women’s volleyball team.. but with these recent signings I may have to be a fan of this league
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Post by twkpwrbtmlib on Jun 14, 2023 12:13:34 GMT -5
what liberos has sydney played with? i feel a big reason why she has done ok is because she's always had a decent libero. i remember being clark being ok as a defender but not as a passer. and yes, im examining the fact that white is her libero. i thought it was just me but then today's match against Croatia affirmed my thoughts about her. I wouldn't make assumptions on rosters or pairings, yet. 30-women pre-season rosters will give coaches plenty of choices. When it comes time to cut down to 14 players, I have a feeling these boards will really explode with criticisms of a lot of coaches' decisions. I'm going to assume the ones being signed and used as hype will make it onto the roster. ATL pretty much has everyone that would start on any team in PVF. there's no way that ray goes from setting in Italy to get cut. I'm going to assume all IG announced players are safe. maybe they won't announce all 14 players to leave room for tryouts, but I feel like if your announced during this time, you're guaranteed a spot. white to Sydney is going to be a mess. hopefully Omaha gets a better libero.
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Post by genisvel on Jun 14, 2023 12:27:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't make assumptions on rosters or pairings, yet. 30-women pre-season rosters will give coaches plenty of choices. When it comes time to cut down to 14 players, I have a feeling these boards will really explode with criticisms of a lot of coaches' decisions. I'm going to assume the ones being signed and used as hype will make it onto the roster. ATL pretty much has everyone that would start on any team in PVF. there's no way that ray goes from setting in Italy to get cut. I'm going to assume all IG announced players are safe. maybe they won't announce all 14 players to leave room for tryouts, but I feel like if your announced during this time, you're guaranteed a spot. white to Sydney is going to be a mess. hopefully Omaha gets a better libero. Not saying it will happen for sure because I'm confident owners will be mad at coaches if they're stuck paying contacted players who are cut. But, if it's going to be as bad as you predict, then, Collier might not have a choice but trade, bench, or pay someone to sit at home.
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Post by comet on Jun 14, 2023 12:28:09 GMT -5
It seems like a lot of the US national players are signing with LOVB, so I guess I'm wondering who are they going to play in their league if most of the other good players are snatched up already by PVF?
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 14, 2023 12:28:42 GMT -5
I still hate the idea of Jason Derulo owning a women’s volleyball team.. but with these recent signings I may have to be a fan of this league If he's leaving the important day-to-day operations to competent people, I don't see any problem with it. Derulo being an owner just re-enforces the idea that the time is right for a league, and it's mainly a matter of there being funding available to make it happen.
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Post by genisvel on Jun 14, 2023 12:31:13 GMT -5
It seems like a lot of the US national players are signing with LOVB, so I guess I'm wondering who are they going to play in their league if most of the other good players are snatched up already by PVF? Well, if LOVB is honest with thier mission statement, wouldn't it be a mix of pros and their club players?
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 14, 2023 12:32:38 GMT -5
I'm going to assume the ones being signed and used as hype will make it onto the roster. ATL pretty much has everyone that would start on any team in PVF. there's no way that ray goes from setting in Italy to get cut. I'm going to assume all IG announced players are safe. maybe they won't announce all 14 players to leave room for tryouts, but I feel like if your announced during this time, you're guaranteed a spot. white to Sydney is going to be a mess. hopefully Omaha gets a better libero. Not saying it will happen for sure because I'm confident owners will be mad at coaches if they're stuck paying contacted players who are cut. But, if it's going to be as bad as you predict, then, Collier might not have a choice but trade, bench, or pay someone to sit at home. I'm sure it's the owners who are approving contracts. Once they have entered into a contract, they're obviously obligated to abide by the terms. More than likely, if there are going to be rosters with more than 14 players, the extra ones will have limited contracts (e.g. being paid for the try-out period) or only be offered contracts if they make the final roster.
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Post by jimboslice on Jun 14, 2023 12:40:45 GMT -5
It seems like a lot of the US national players are signing with LOVB, so I guess I'm wondering who are they going to play in their league if most of the other good players are snatched up already by PVF? Well, if LOVB is honest with thier mission statement, wouldn't it be a mix of pros and their club players? I don't believe thats what LOVB means in their mission statement.. maybe in the future club players could become pro players but not immediately. They are just saying that the club players are the initial fanbase and the pro teams will be closely connected with them through events/location. I think the timing of the leagues has a bigger part in which players are going to which leagues.. most of the team USA 2024 olympic hopefuls are signed to LOVB. I would assume this is because they can't risk losing out on a whole season of quality pro competition and training the season prior to an olympic games. Because LOVB is happening post Paris 2024 its not an important international season/training cycle. After the olympics players can take the year off or take a risk playing in a league like LOVB or PVF that might result in worse training/competition.
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Post by genisvel on Jun 14, 2023 12:47:14 GMT -5
Not saying it will happen for sure because I'm confident owners will be mad at coaches if they're stuck paying contacted players who are cut. But, if it's going to be as bad as you predict, then, Collier might not have a choice but trade, bench, or pay someone to sit at home. I'm sure it's the owners who are approving contracts. Once they have entered into a contract, they're obviously obligated to abide by the terms. More than likely, if there are going to be rosters with more than 14 players, the extra ones will have limited contracts (e.g. being paid for the try-out period) or only be offered contracts if they make the final roster. My experience as a fan of pro sports, especially niche sports is paying players who aren't playing is inevitable and owners know it and budget for it. It could be injury, benching someone who's in a slump, etc. Most of these players are getting paid 60k no matter their experience. The only ones who are "safe" (this is pro sports, so that's extremely relative) are the 100k players who live in the area and will be used as spokespersons year-round.
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 14, 2023 12:53:29 GMT -5
I'm sure it's the owners who are approving contracts. Once they have entered into a contract, they're obviously obligated to abide by the terms. More than likely, if there are going to be rosters with more than 14 players, the extra ones will have limited contracts (e.g. being paid for the try-out period) or only be offered contracts if they make the final roster. My experience as a fan of pro sports, especially niche sports is paying players who aren't playing is inevitable and owners know it and budget for it. It could be injury, benching someone who's in a slump, etc. Most of these players are getting paid 60k no matter their experience. The only ones who are "safe" (this is pro sports, so that's extremely relative) are the 100k players who live in the area and will be used as spokespersons year-round. I think that's makes sense up to the 14 player roster limit. Beyond that, which is what I was referring to, it makes no sense to sign players to actual enforceable contracts (that's how it works for ncaa athletic scholars, for example.)
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Post by genisvel on Jun 14, 2023 13:09:05 GMT -5
My experience as a fan of pro sports, especially niche sports is paying players who aren't playing is inevitable and owners know it and budget for it. It could be injury, benching someone who's in a slump, etc. Most of these players are getting paid 60k no matter their experience. The only ones who are "safe" (this is pro sports, so that's extremely relative) are the 100k players who live in the area and will be used as spokespersons year-round. I think that's makes sense up to the 14 player roster limit. Beyond that, which is what I was referring to, it makes no sense to sign players to actual enforceable contracts (that's how it works for ncaa athletic scholars, for example.) OK. But, let's say that White is as disastrous as twkpwrbtmlib predicts, and there's some walk-on who really clicks with Sydney. Collier and Derulo and Danny W. will need to make a decision. And, if Kendall gets cut, these boards will explode, right? This particular hypothetical may not come to pass, but, I would be surprised if something similar doesn't happen somewhere in this league. It happens in every American pro-sport every off- season. It's what makes sports radio and boards like these fun.
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 14, 2023 13:23:46 GMT -5
I think that's makes sense up to the 14 player roster limit. Beyond that, which is what I was referring to, it makes no sense to sign players to actual enforceable contracts (that's how it works for ncaa athletic scholars, for example.) OK. But, let's say that White is as disastrous as twkpwrbtmlib predicts, and there's some walk-on who really clicks with Sydney. Collier and Derulo and Danny W. will need to make a decision. And, if Kendall gets cut, these boards will explode, right? This particular hypothetical may not come to pass, but, I would be surprised if something similar doesn't happen somewhere in this league. It happens in every American pro-sport every off- season. It's what makes sports radio and boards like these fun. Sure, but that's an unknown that would have to be addressed if it were to come to pass. In that case, the most logical and efficient thing to do would be to look for a specific replacement player. The 14 player roster limit, the additional try-out period, and the necessity to fullfill signed contract obligations are all known factors, and the owners can make their plans with that in mind. Entering into full binding contracts with more than 14 players is a sure-fire way to ensure that they're going to accrue extra (and likely unnecessary) salary costs.
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Post by winesalot on Jun 14, 2023 13:23:50 GMT -5
I think that's makes sense up to the 14 player roster limit. Beyond that, which is what I was referring to, it makes no sense to sign players to actual enforceable contracts (that's how it works for ncaa athletic scholars, for example.) OK. But, let's say that White is as disastrous as twkpwrbtmlib predicts, and there's some walk-on who really clicks with Sydney. Collier and Derulo and Danny W. will need to make a decision. And, if Kendall gets cut, these boards will explode, right? This particular hypothetical may not come to pass, but, I would be surprised if something similar doesn't happen somewhere in this league. It happens in every American pro-sport every off- season. It's what makes sports radio and boards like these fun. I don't think this board will explode if Kendall White gets cut. I think there will be a lot of shoulder shrugging and a lot of "well that played out like I thought it might". But that's just my assumption after yesterday's game against Croatia.
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