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Post by basil on Jun 21, 2023 16:45:05 GMT -5
Tomorrow's Matches (6/22)China v. Italy - 7 AM ET | 6 AM CT | 4 AM PT Japan v. Brazil - 7 AM | 6 AM | 4 AM Canada v. Bulgaria - 10:30 AM | 9:30 AM | 7:30 AM Serbia v. Germany - 10:30 AM | 9:30 AM | 7:30 AM Netherlands v. Poland - 2 PM | 1 PM | 11 AM Slovenia v. Cuba - 2:30 PM | 1:30 PM | 11:30 AM boring barnburner must see midtv ... okay, sure pinfest shootout 'must see midtv' LOL |
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Post by Spike Town on Jun 21, 2023 18:07:36 GMT -5
Canadas summer is over if they lose to Bulgaria. Maybe then the right people will have to take responsibility for this mess. it's a shame because Sammelvuo is a really great coach. But there's so little to work with, which I don't get. Doesn't Canada have some pretty competitive university programs?? I agree. He is a great coach, no question. Canada has a very good university system, particularly in the west which is one of the issues. The east and the old guard at the top essentially refuse to acknowledge it. The previous coach, Ben Josephson, came from the west and the winningest program in recent history. He quite obviously tried to move the program forward with a youth movement and was fired for it. He made a bunch of mistakes but last I checked mistakes are a part of learning. And its not like this years team looks any better than last years team. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Jun 21, 2023 18:11:02 GMT -5
it's a shame because Sammelvuo is a really great coach. But there's so little to work with, which I don't get. Doesn't Canada have some pretty competitive university programs?? I agree. He is a great coach, no question. Canada has a very good university system, particularly in the west which is one of the issues. The east and the old guard at the top essentially refuse to acknowledge it. The previous coach, Ben Josephson, came from the west and the winningest program in recent history. He quite obviously tried to move the program forward with a youth movement and was fired for it. He made a bunch of mistakes but last I checked mistakes are a part of learning. And its not like this years team looks any better than last years team. I feel like they look worst BECAUSE they have more experienced players and are getting the same results. I honestly can't understand it. |
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Post by Spike Town on Jun 21, 2023 18:14:16 GMT -5
I agree. He is a great coach, no question. Canada has a very good university system, particularly in the west which is one of the issues. The east and the old guard at the top essentially refuse to acknowledge it. The previous coach, Ben Josephson, came from the west and the winningest program in recent history. He quite obviously tried to move the program forward with a youth movement and was fired for it. He made a bunch of mistakes but last I checked mistakes are a part of learning. And its not like this years team looks any better than last years team. I feel like they look worst BECAUSE they have more experienced players and are getting the same results. I honestly can't understand it. They definitely look worse which makes the firing all the more brutal. So short sighted. They have another young setter on their VNL long list who hasnt even been invited to training this summer. |
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Jun 21, 2023 18:42:46 GMT -5
Which team do you think has the best two opposites right now or in this VNL? I would give it to France with Patry and Boyer. I feel like France can start either one of them and they won’t skip a beat.
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Post by bruinsgold on Jun 21, 2023 18:50:21 GMT -5
Which team do you think has the best two opposites right now or in this VNL? I would give it to France with Patry and Boyer. I feel like France can start either one of them and they won’t skip a beat. Oh no. Not Boyer/Patry. Boyer is error-prone and Patry has been mid all year. He did nothing to help France today. It's a great question though because, for most teams, the drop off from the starting OPP to the back-up is BIG. I like Nishida/Miyaura though I'd have to see them against a really good blocking team. I want to say Argentina as well but Lima can be so hot and cold. |
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Post by manyshaped on Jun 21, 2023 18:51:25 GMT -5
Which team do you think has the best two opposites right now or in this VNL? I would give it to France with Patry and Boyer. I feel like France can start either one of them and they won’t skip a beat. poland. kurek/kaczmarek/butryn are a lethal trio. quiet as its kept, ter maat is a very good backup to nimir. i don't watch mens vball though, so take everything i just said with a grain of salt. |
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Jun 21, 2023 19:00:54 GMT -5
Which team do you think has the best two opposites right now or in this VNL? I would give it to France with Patry and Boyer. I feel like France can start either one of them and they won’t skip a beat. Oh no. Not Boyer/Patry. Boyer is error-prone and Patry has been mid all year. He did nothing to help France today. It's a great question though because, for most teams, the drop off from the starting OPP to the back-up is BIG. I like Nishida/Miyaura though I'd have to see them against a really good blocking team. I want to say Argentina as well but Lima can be so hot and cold. Thats fair! I am still watching today’s match replay and will learn more about Patry a bit more. I kept remembering how effective he was in the Tokyo Olympic. Not a flashy player but quietly effective. I would put Nishida/Miyaura up there too. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Jun 21, 2023 19:03:36 GMT -5
Oh no. Not Boyer/Patry. Boyer is error-prone and Patry has been mid all year. He did nothing to help France today. It's a great question though because, for most teams, the drop off from the starting OPP to the back-up is BIG. I like Nishida/Miyaura though I'd have to see them against a really good blocking team. I want to say Argentina as well but Lima can be so hot and cold. Thats fair! I am still watching today’s match replay and will learn more about Patry a bit more. I kept remembering how effective he was in the Tokyo Olympic. Not a flashy player but quietly effective. I would put Nishida/Miyaura up there too. Patry was so good in Tokyo and then... I don't know what happened to him. He's fallen off, at least in Italy. Maybe the old him will show up this summer for the NT. |
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Jun 21, 2023 19:06:42 GMT -5
Thats fair! I am still watching today’s match replay and will learn more about Patry a bit more. I kept remembering how effective he was in the Tokyo Olympic. Not a flashy player but quietly effective. I would put Nishida/Miyaura up there too. Patry was so good in Tokyo and then... I don't know what happened to him. He's fallen off, at least in Italy. Maybe the old him will show up this summer for the NT. Yeah I hope so. He was one of my favorite players from the Tokyo Olympic. I think the the big drop off from the starting OPP to the back-up is what makes it so hard to grade them. |
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Post by stull90210 on Jun 21, 2023 20:22:56 GMT -5
How am I just now seeing Louati …
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Post by basil on Jun 21, 2023 22:39:42 GMT -5
had to catch the replay but man this Argentina-France game is insane
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Post by jcvball22 on Jun 21, 2023 22:42:47 GMT -5
How am I just now seeing Louati … He has been playing in Turkey for the last two years? |
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Post by volleybolero on Jun 22, 2023 2:45:38 GMT -5
French OPP Patry, Boyer, Faure and Lawani
their problem is GIANI...
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Post by agean09 on Jun 22, 2023 5:43:09 GMT -5
I love that Argentina still finds success with a 5’8” setter lol. Gives hope to the little guys out there
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