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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 17, 2005 17:57:04 GMT -5
Just not aloud. I think Shoji gets more criticism than any other DI coach out there. At the games I've been to he gets second guessed all the time, and people complain about silly things about lineup changes or why didn't he call a timeout. Believe it or not people call for his head with every loss, not unlike some football or basketball coaches. Granted this is a vocal minority, but the key word here being VOCAL. I think he does a good job of handling criticism, a lot of it is meaningless and I figure he's been coaching for 30 years and won 85% of his games, so he probably knows more than I do. I agree with your comments, I hear it too. Bandwagon riding Hawai'i fans.
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Post by LanaiBoy on Sept 17, 2005 18:04:57 GMT -5
The 85% is padded with WAC matches....The Wahine are in the low teen % against Top teams. Wolfgang...what a droll troll. Tsk, tsk, trying to tweak the Hawaii fans with some inane statements! Ha, ha, ha. Yeah, Shoji's teams fattened his record on weak WAC teams. Not! You don't reach the NCAA final four in 1997, 2000, 2002, 2003, by feasting on plucked chickens do you? But I guess in Wolfgang's nether, fantasy world, they do.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 17, 2005 18:08:03 GMT -5
Wolfgang is just trying to annoy Hawai'i fans but we take his mahu comments for what it's worth.
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 17, 2005 18:33:04 GMT -5
No, no, I didn't make it up. I found it here in one of the articles from this week's Honolulu Advertiser:
"Hawai'i is 2-11 against teams ranked No. 2 in the poll, with both wins against Pacific in 1987. The last time the Rainbow Wahine faced a second-ranked opponent was in the 1996 NCAA Championship against Stanford, when UH was swept.
The Rainbow Wahine have a much better record — 7-11 — against top-ranked opponents. Hawai'i is 93-75 against Top-10 opponents, including 2-3 this season."
My numbers were off but I remembered it was something. I even said I couldn't remember clearly.
If you erase all the pad-ilicious WAC matches, Shoji won't have an 85% clip.
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 17, 2005 18:34:56 GMT -5
Wolfgang is just trying to annoy Hawai'i fans but we take his mahu comments for what it's worth. I thought "mahu" meant crossdressers or transvestites, not necessarily gay. But I defer to my more knowledgable Bruddah in Kailua, who should really buy some shoes. So, I don't really understand what mahu comments mean. I'll take it as a compliment.
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Post by Gorf on Sept 17, 2005 18:39:34 GMT -5
Aren't there a plethora of "pad-ilicios" matches on the records of almost every "upper eschelon" coach Wolfy?
Penn State played in the Atlantic 10 conference for several years, there have always been "bottom dwellers" even in conferences like the Big 12, the Pac 10, the Big 10, the Big West, etc...
Plus, how many years has Hawaii been in the WAC conference?
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 17, 2005 18:51:32 GMT -5
Yeah, sure, but we were talking about Shoji, not Russ Rose, who by the way, also loves to pad his win-loss record.
Hawaii has been in the WAC since 1996. That's 9 years.
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Post by Gorf on Sept 17, 2005 18:55:20 GMT -5
Ah... You're just being a Shoji basher for the moment?
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Post by LanaiBoy on Sept 17, 2005 18:56:22 GMT -5
....If you erase all the pad-ilicious WAC matches, Shoji won't have an 85% clip. Hmm. How about removing all the pad-ilicious matches that University of Washington played this year and previous years and see how Jim McLaughlin existing percentage holds up? There's a lots of other well known coaches who schedule easy matches at the beginning of the year to "ease their way to "tough conference matches."
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 17, 2005 19:01:32 GMT -5
Fine with me.
I was merely disputing the "impressiveness" of the 85% number.
Someone should just do the simple (but time-consuming) math and compile the win-loss records. Only Top 25 opponents count. Someone should compile the list. Someone. Not me.
Then, we can do a more "fair" comparison.
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Post by LanaiBoy on Sept 17, 2005 19:12:40 GMT -5
Fine with me. I was merely disputing the "impressiveness" of the 85% number. Someone should just do the simple (but time-consuming) math and compile the win-loss records. Only Top 25 opponents count. Someone should compile the list. Someone. Not me. Then, we can do a more "fair" comparison. If in fact you are not a numbers man and basing your bashing of Shoji, on, I presume, intuition or whim, how can we take you seriously?
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 17, 2005 19:17:57 GMT -5
I don't know what that means, on so many levels.
Someone brought up the "impressiveness" of the 85% figure. I said, "No, wait a minute. Maybe it's not so impressive because of all the WAC victories." Something to that effect.
If someone can show me the numbers, perhaps compared to other coaches, I can be persuaded otherwise.
I don't know what you mean by "not a numbers man." Am I afraid of numbers? Am I incompetent in math? I don't know what that means.
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Post by islandgirl on Sept 17, 2005 19:28:34 GMT -5
I was merely disputing the "impressiveness" of the 85% number. Oh 'fess up! You were merely being trollish for the sake of being trollish. There's a lot of that going around...
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Post by islandgirl on Sept 17, 2005 19:33:11 GMT -5
If someone can show me the numbers, perhaps compared to other coaches, I can be persuaded otherwise. Um Wolfie, you're assuming your stance on the matter is of importance to others. As far as I'm concerned, you can go right on "believing" it's not impressive at all.
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Post by LanaiBoy on Sept 17, 2005 19:33:34 GMT -5
I don't know what that means, on so many levels. I don't know what you mean by "not a numbers man." Am I afraid of numbers? Am I incompetent in math? I don't know what that means. Poor Wolfgang. So misunderstood!
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