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ACC 2023
Sept 1, 2023 18:51:01 GMT -5
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Post by bvolley17 on Sept 1, 2023 18:51:01 GMT -5
SMU up 2-0 and 20-13 in S3 at FSU 🤔
Welcome to the ACC?
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Post by bvolley17 on Sept 1, 2023 18:57:49 GMT -5
SMU up 2-0 and 20-13 in S3 at FSU 🤔 Welcome to the ACC? SMU sweeps FSU in Tallahassee on the day they are invited to the ACC.
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Post by 78jacket on Sept 2, 2023 1:24:28 GMT -5
Georgia Tech goes into Ohio State and takes them down 3-1. All three outside hitters with double digit kills. Another match with the Buckeyes scheduled for tomorrow.
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Post by slxpress on Sept 2, 2023 1:39:07 GMT -5
gostanford.com/news/2023/8/17/athletics-2023-hall-of-fame-class.aspxAs an ACC fan I'm excited about seeing new volleyball schools in the conference. It cannot be called the "ACC" for too long after realignment though, given how completely nonsensical it would be. But especially if you go to games of your favorite school, it will be cool to see Stanford especially roll through NC or FL or VA etc. for Friday/SUnday matches. Certainly ups the cachet of the conference overall. Not sure of the quality of the Cal or SMU programs at the moment but haven't seen them much in the national picture so guessing they're far less quality than Stan. Interesting to see what ACC fans think. Cal is abominably bad, and that's without adding in where it should really be, which makes it worse. SMU is definitely up and coming. With the departures of UH and UCF from the American Athletic Conference, SMU will be the class of the league this year. I'm not saying they're another Stanford, but they're a decent mid major volleyball program. They just beat FSU so that tells you they can at least compete in the ACC. If the ACC wasn't the second best volleyball conference in the country before, it certainly is now. If enough programs elevate themselves towards the level Louisville, Pitt, Stanford, and Georgia Tech have been maintaining it could legitimately battle the Big 10 for top conference. Who are the top 4 programs in the Big 10? Wisconsin, Nebraska, Minnesota, and then who? I thought it would be Penn State with a bullet, but they've come out of the gates really struggling. Purdue? Ohio State? I honestly don't know. One of the things the Big 10 is trouncing everyone in is promotion of the sport and attendance, especially with Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Minnesota, but many of the other programs have good facilities and relatively high attendance numbers, too. Add in all the programming on the BGN and BGN+, and the high ratings those events constantly garner, and it creates something the rest of the volleyball world can aspire to. But in terms of product on the court, the ACC is looking elite.
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Post by bellvision1 on Sept 2, 2023 8:05:56 GMT -5
Sort of an aside: When did "Berkeley" become "Cal"? Through the '80s, they were Cal Berkeley or Berkeley.
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ACC 2023
Sept 2, 2023 8:34:08 GMT -5
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Post by slxpress on Sept 2, 2023 8:34:08 GMT -5
Sort of an aside: When did "Berkeley" become "Cal"? Through the '80s, they were Cal Berkeley or Berkeley. I’ve always referred to them both ways. I agree you don’t see Berkeley referenced as much any more.
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ACC 2023
Sept 2, 2023 9:05:53 GMT -5
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Post by manyshaped on Sept 2, 2023 9:05:53 GMT -5
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 2, 2023 9:52:07 GMT -5
Sort of an aside: When did "Berkeley" become "Cal"? Through the '80s, they were Cal Berkeley or Berkeley. Not sure. I started watching college football in the mid-90s and have only ever known them as "Cal."
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 2, 2023 9:56:10 GMT -5
gostanford.com/news/2023/8/17/athletics-2023-hall-of-fame-class.aspxAs an ACC fan I'm excited about seeing new volleyball schools in the conference. It cannot be called the "ACC" for too long after realignment though, given how completely nonsensical it would be. But especially if you go to games of your favorite school, it will be cool to see Stanford especially roll through NC or FL or VA etc. for Friday/SUnday matches. Certainly ups the cachet of the conference overall. Not sure of the quality of the Cal or SMU programs at the moment but haven't seen them much in the national picture so guessing they're far less quality than Stan. Interesting to see what ACC fans think. If the ACC wasn't the second best volleyball conference in the country before, it certainly is now. If enough programs elevate themselves towards the level Louisville, Pitt, Stanford, and Georgia Tech have been maintaining it could legitimately battle the Big 10 for top conference. Who are the top 4 programs in the Big 10? Wisconsin, Nebraska, Minnesota, and then who? I thought it would be Penn State with a bullet, but they've come out of the gates really struggling. Purdue? Ohio State? I honestly don't know. If we're just talking about programs, it's Penn State for sure. A couple of early-season losses to ranked teams doesn't change that.
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Post by slxpress on Sept 2, 2023 11:33:04 GMT -5
If the ACC wasn't the second best volleyball conference in the country before, it certainly is now. If enough programs elevate themselves towards the level Louisville, Pitt, Stanford, and Georgia Tech have been maintaining it could legitimately battle the Big 10 for top conference. Who are the top 4 programs in the Big 10? Wisconsin, Nebraska, Minnesota, and then who? I thought it would be Penn State with a bullet, but they've come out of the gates really struggling. Purdue? Ohio State? I honestly don't know. If we're just talking about programs, it's Penn State for sure. A couple of early-season losses to ranked teams doesn't change that. No, I'm mostly talking with a recency bias. Penn State is obviously royalty, but their monarch retired. I think Schumacher-Cawley looks like a good replacement, but in her second year, the jury is still out. I think that's fair. I'm not saying they're going to crash and burn, but for this year at least I'm not sure who the 4th best program is going to be. If they came out of the gates swinging, I'm sure I'd be singing a different tune.
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Post by basil on Sept 2, 2023 12:30:55 GMT -5
Sort of an aside: When did "Berkeley" become "Cal"? Through the '80s, they were Cal Berkeley or Berkeley. I'd say Cal is usually only referenced when it comes to athletics whereas Berkeley is used for academics and some athletics too
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Post by skullars on Sept 2, 2023 14:31:28 GMT -5
SMU up 2-0 and 20-13 in S3 at FSU 🤔 Welcome to the ACC? SMU sweeps FSU in Tallahassee on the day they are invited to the ACC. FSU showing that down-home ACC hospitality.
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 2, 2023 18:06:08 GMT -5
If we're just talking about programs, it's Penn State for sure. A couple of early-season losses to ranked teams doesn't change that. No, I'm mostly talking with a recency bias. Penn State is obviously royalty, but their monarch retired. I think Schumacher-Cawley looks like a good replacement, but in her second year, the jury is still out. I think that's fair. I'm not saying they're going to crash and burn, but for this year at least I'm not sure who the 4th best program is going to be. If they came out of the gates swinging, I'm sure I'd be singing a different tune. I understand your position. I think this may just be a difference of semantics. It sounds like you're talking about who will be the fourth best team in the Big 10 this season. But for me, a program transcends any one year or even any one coach. I mean, look at UCLA men's basketball. John Wooden built that place, and they only have one national championship in nearly 50 years, but they're still considered a blue blood. I view Penn State similarly in women's volleyball. Even if KSC doesn't turn out to be the right coach, I think it will still be an attractive job, and they'll get the right coach eventually.
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Post by slxpress on Sept 2, 2023 20:05:12 GMT -5
No, I'm mostly talking with a recency bias. Penn State is obviously royalty, but their monarch retired. I think Schumacher-Cawley looks like a good replacement, but in her second year, the jury is still out. I think that's fair. I'm not saying they're going to crash and burn, but for this year at least I'm not sure who the 4th best program is going to be. If they came out of the gates swinging, I'm sure I'd be singing a different tune. I understand your position. I think this may just be a difference of semantics. It sounds like you're talking about who will be the fourth best team in the Big 10 this season. But for me, a program transcends any one year or even any one coach. I mean, look at UCLA men's basketball. John Wooden built that place, and they only have one national championship in nearly 50 years, but they're still considered a blue blood. I view Penn State similarly in women's volleyball. Even if KSC doesn't turn out to be the right coach, I think it will still be an attractive job, and they'll get the right coach eventually. Well sure. But that won’t hekp the Big 10 be the harder conference next season. I was trying to think of which programs in the Big 10 would match up with Stanford, Louisville, Pitt, and Georgia Tech in 2024. Right now the obvious candidates ate Wisconsin, Nebraska, Minnesota, and then who? As an overall program it’s Penn State. Now that a think of it,, for next year the program I’d throw in there right now is Oregon. L In any case, with the additions of USC and UCLA, in terms of program history the Big 10 blows the ACC out of the water, because the only program with real historical heft is Stanford. But in terms of recency bias, those 4 for the ACC look a lot better than they do over their entire tenure. In any case, I’m not really saying the ACC is better. Just that adding Stanford really strengthens at the top what is already a good conference, and getting better.
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Post by usavolley01 on Sept 4, 2023 17:17:59 GMT -5
Looks like Georgia Tech will be competitive again this season. It would be easier to gauge level of success if they played Florida as well this weekend but leaving 2-0 was unexpected. Another season of Louisville and Pitt slugging it out with Georgia Tech waiting patiently for their opportunity to strike. Unfortunately it seems to be a bit of a drop off in the conference after those three. Georgia Tech looked pretty dominant this weekend in both wins against USF and Penn State. They have a much bigger team overall and a much deeper team than in years past with some transfer middles and another talented Brazilian outside hitter in Mendes who made the all tournament team in Tampa. They will be tested again this coming weekend playing two matches up at Ohio State. Will be interesting to see if they are really that good or if Penn State was way over rated. Maybe it is a little of both. Well it looks like we’ve found our answer: Georgia Tech is not a team to take lightly. They’ll most likely be undefeated come ACC play and could easily give Pitt/Louisville a run for their money. Should be a fun season in the ACC this year! I miss the days when UNC was included in these conversations…
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