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Post by n00b on Nov 18, 2023 19:16:01 GMT -5
UMBC leads Binghamton 2-0 and 18-12 in the America East finals. So if you like watching teams celebrate championships, probably switch over to that one on ESPN+.
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Post by n00b on Nov 18, 2023 19:20:32 GMT -5
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Post by n00b on Nov 18, 2023 19:23:46 GMT -5
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Post by trojansc on Nov 18, 2023 19:27:49 GMT -5
Hmmm. UMBC could possibly be considered a '3-seed' in terms of subregionals based on their RPI.
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Post by n00b on Nov 18, 2023 19:31:32 GMT -5
Hmmm. UMBC could possibly be considered a '3-seed' in terms of subregionals based on their RPI. I hope they take even the quickest look at their resume. Zero Top 75 wins. The 3 seeds should all be at large caliber (or close to it).
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Post by trojansc on Nov 18, 2023 19:34:11 GMT -5
Hmmm. UMBC could possibly be considered a '3-seed' in terms of subregionals based on their RPI. I hope they take even the quickest look at their resume. Zero Top 75 wins. The 3 seeds should all be at large caliber (or close to it). Let's hope! FGCU was really similar the year they sent the softest subregional to Madison Wisconsin (FGCU+Texas Tech as 2/3 seeds) Then last year they made LMU/Pepperdine 4's while High Point got a 3-spot. USC really got an easier 1st round than regional host Stanford and top-16 seed Oregon last year. Lol.
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Post by jayj79 on Nov 18, 2023 19:36:37 GMT -5
If I feel motivated enough, sometime after this weekend's matches, as the AQs start to be filled in, I might make a list of the current RPIs of each AQ (either from the official NCAA ranking if they publish it on Monday, or figstats), and a hypothetical "if they determined at-larges purely by RPI" cutline.
... unless someone else beats me to it (and if so, more power to them)
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Post by vballfreak808 on Nov 18, 2023 19:38:17 GMT -5
#6 Bowling Green leads #3 Ball State 2-0 (25-21, 25-13)
Ball State lost to Toledo earlier this week, wasn't sure if Toledo was getting hot at the right time or if Ball State was collapsing at the end. Maybe both
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Post by n00b on Nov 18, 2023 19:41:25 GMT -5
I hope they take even the quickest look at their resume. Zero Top 75 wins. The 3 seeds should all be at large caliber (or close to it). Let's hope! FGCU was really similar the year they sent the softest subregional to Madison Wisconsin (FGCU+Texas Tech as 2/3 seeds) Then last year they made LMU/Pepperdine 4's while High Point got a 3-spot. USC really got an easier 1st round than regional host Stanford and top-16 seed Oregon last year. Lol. The ASUN is typically WAYYY better than the America East though. And UMBC has a loss to #286(!) Albany! Is that an RPI penalty? It's so rare that I don't even know what the cutoff is.
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Post by twkpwrbtmlib on Nov 18, 2023 19:46:42 GMT -5
txst and jmu is such a fun matchup. i thought it was the final already
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Post by trojansc on Nov 18, 2023 19:48:11 GMT -5
Let's hope! FGCU was really similar the year they sent the softest subregional to Madison Wisconsin (FGCU+Texas Tech as 2/3 seeds) Then last year they made LMU/Pepperdine 4's while High Point got a 3-spot. USC really got an easier 1st round than regional host Stanford and top-16 seed Oregon last year. Lol. The ASUN is typically WAYYY better than the America East though. And UMBC has a loss to #286(!) Albany! Is that an RPI penalty? It's so rare that I don't even know what the cutoff is. I think it used to be 285. I am not sure if it changed (NCAA has added D1 programs since)
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Post by trojansc on Nov 18, 2023 19:49:40 GMT -5
txst and jmu is such a fun matchup. i thought it was the final already It's tense. It's a re-match of the 2022 Final. Plus, Texas State knows they have 0 trust in the NCAA committee, even though their RPI is even better this year. The reason they had to sit on the bubble (and eventually got left out last year) is because they lost in the conference Championship to James Madison.
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Post by n00b on Nov 18, 2023 19:50:03 GMT -5
Long Island leads Fairleigh Dickinson 2-1 and 19-12 in the 4th. The Blackbirds Sharks seem poised to be the next team to clinch a tournament berth.
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Post by vbgeezer on Nov 18, 2023 19:51:56 GMT -5
The possibility that UMBC could be selected as a 3-seed in whatever sub-regional they are assigned is evidence of how flawed the RPI as a measure of team performance. Their best win is against Miami (OH) in their first match of the season. The America East is one of the ten weakest D1 volleyball conferences, and they only won 10 of 12 conference matches. They are dogmeat for someone in the first round.
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Post by vballfreak808 on Nov 18, 2023 19:53:52 GMT -5
#4 Seed LIU takes the NEC Championship and gets the automatic bid!
3-1 over #2 FDU
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