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Post by tomclen on Nov 19, 2023 15:45:20 GMT -5
Sadly, we just witnessed the evaporation of a two-decade streak of Washington making the tournament. It's perplexing how steep the decline precipitated. In 2 years we went from bowing out in round of 16 to 1st round knockout to not qualifying. I'd still maintain that Tui was the right hire. But she was definitely left with a less than well-rounded recruiting cupboard. I've always assumed that KCook was already negotiating with Minnesota when that first-round tourney knockout occurred. Next year's B1G schedule will not make things easier, including the odds of making the 2024 tournament. p.s. Worse than missing the tournament is the fact there's a realistic chance UW ends their last PAC season with a conference record of 6-14. |
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Post by alwayslearning on Nov 19, 2023 15:56:35 GMT -5
Sadly, we just witnessed the evaporation of a two-decade streak of Washington making the tournament. It's perplexing how steep the decline precipitated. In 2 years we went from bowing out in round of 16 to 1st round knockout to not qualifying. Let's also not forget that just two and a half years ago, in the spring of 2021 during the weird Covid season, UW was a Final Four team and arguably gave eventual champion Kentucky their toughest match. Wow, that seems so long ago. Let's hope the program has bottomed out and that Tui will right the ship going forward. |
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Post by DaDawgFather on Nov 19, 2023 17:10:17 GMT -5
It's perplexing how steep the decline precipitated. In 2 years we went from bowing out in round of 16 to 1st round knockout to not qualifying. I'd still maintain that Tui was the right hire. But she was definitely left with a less than well-rounded recruiting cupboard. I've always assumed that KCook was already negotiating with Minnesota when that first-round tourney knockout occurred. Next year's B1G schedule will not make things easier, including the odds of making the 2024 tournament. p.s. Worse than missing the tournament is the fact there's a realistic chance UW ends their last PAC season with a conference record of 6-14. I'm with you that Leslie was the right hire. My mind is just boggled with the discontinuity of the recruiting between last year and this year. In my mind you're playing with fire by having fewer than 16 athletes on the roster. Nobody could have anticipated the injury situation that has occurred but I think you should be bringing enough kids in for meaningful competition within the positions. |
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Post by volleyball303 on Nov 19, 2023 20:17:00 GMT -5
BUFFS WIN! Great sweep over the Huskies. Need to finish out these last two matches with wins to have a good chance at the NCAA. I thought they needed to beat Arizona to have a chance at the tournament? Wish they could have that match point back and Tabron actually swing at the ball but oh well. |
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Post by huskyvolley on Nov 19, 2023 20:24:58 GMT -5
I'd still maintain that Tui was the right hire. But she was definitely left with a less than well-rounded recruiting cupboard. I've always assumed that KCook was already negotiating with Minnesota when that first-round tourney knockout occurred. Next year's B1G schedule will not make things easier, including the odds of making the 2024 tournament. p.s. Worse than missing the tournament is the fact there's a realistic chance UW ends their last PAC season with a conference record of 6-14. I'm with you that Leslie was the right hire. My mind is just boggled with the discontinuity of the recruiting between last year and this year. In my mind you're playing with fire by having fewer than 16 athletes on the roster. Nobody could have anticipated the injury situation that has occurred but I think you should be bringing enough kids in for meaningful competition within the positions. What did Tui do this season that make you think she was the right hire? 1. Hired an AC and fired him right before the season started 2. Had one scholarship unused, knowing Bush would not be available 3. Going back to 6-2 when 5-1 clearly worked better 4. We only have one recruit for 2025 so far This coaching staff has failed in every front imo. |
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Post by hammer on Nov 20, 2023 0:50:05 GMT -5
I'm with you that Leslie was the right hire. My mind is just boggled with the discontinuity of the recruiting between last year and this year. In my mind you're playing with fire by having fewer than 16 athletes on the roster. Nobody could have anticipated the injury situation that has occurred but I think you should be bringing enough kids in for meaningful competition within the positions. What did Tui do this season that make you think she was the right hire? 1. Hired an AC and fired him right before the season started 2. Had one scholarship unused, knowing Bush would not be available 3. Going back to 6-2 when 5-1 clearly worked better 4. We only have one recruit for 2025 so far This coaching staff has failed in every front imo. Growing pains hopefully. I guess the quickest remedy is the portal for talent, but longer term, 2026 and 2027, hit the club tournaments hard and be visible. Also, look in Europe, Canada, Mexico, etc. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 20, 2023 1:47:48 GMT -5
I'm with you that Leslie was the right hire. My mind is just boggled with the discontinuity of the recruiting between last year and this year. In my mind you're playing with fire by having fewer than 16 athletes on the roster. Nobody could have anticipated the injury situation that has occurred but I think you should be bringing enough kids in for meaningful competition within the positions. What did Tui do this season that make you think she was the right hire? 1. Hired an AC and fired him right before the season started 2. Had one scholarship unused, knowing Bush would not be available 3. Going back to 6-2 when 5-1 clearly worked better 4. We only have one recruit for 2025 so far This coaching staff has failed in every front imo. Also, please spill the tea on the ephemeral assistant. |
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Post by alwayslearning on Nov 20, 2023 12:41:43 GMT -5
What did Tui do this season that make you think she was the right hire? 1. Hired an AC and fired him right before the season started 2. Had one scholarship unused, knowing Bush would not be available 3. Going back to 6-2 when 5-1 clearly worked better 4. We only have one recruit for 2025 so far This coaching staff has failed in every front imo. Also, please spill the tea on the ephemeral assistant. I'm not sure anyone on this forum knows why the assistant left or was fired (not clear to me how best to characterize it). I haven't seen any info on this. In the absence of information, I'm going to assume there was a good, and perhaps entirely benign, reason why he left or was fired. If anyone knows anything and you can share, it could be interesting. I do know it was late in the game and so Tui probably did not have many good options to fill the vacancy. The real question is whether Tui will do some revamping of the staff for 2024. Seems like it might be a good idea. As for questioning Tui as the "right hire," anyone is of course free to voice their opinion. I'm not sure that "failing to use a scholarship after knowing that Bush would be out for the season" is a fair criticism. The reason I am unsure relates to the timing of Bush's injury and surgery. AFAIK, it also occurred late in the game. I don't recall reading about it until August. Are players even available at that late date to accept a scholarship? If someone has more information, please enlighten us. As for 6-2 vs 5-1, there are certainly questions you can raise about lineup choices this year and I have raised them myself. The bigger question, in my mind, is whether the team developed and grew during the course of the season and I think it is fair to raise that question. But the biggest problem, IMO, is the lack of overall talent and athleticism on the squad. As Hammer points out, some growing pains are to be expected and the UW coaching staff needs to look for help in the portal (or grad students) in the short term and to really intensify recruiting in the long term. This will take a few years to play out. Only then will we know if Tui was the right hire. |
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