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Post by BeachbytheBay on Nov 24, 2023 12:22:20 GMT -5
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Post by Wolfgang on Nov 24, 2023 12:30:21 GMT -5
... UCSB vs. Poly?. the central coast rivalry final, while Hawaii & Beach fans are reduced to shopping for Xmas ornaments ... I haven't shopped for Christmas ornaments in...like...never. As a kid, we seemed to always have all the ornaments we needed from boxes stored in our attic. And then, as an adult, we inherited them from my wife's family. We keep reusing the same ornaments year after year. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 24, 2023 12:31:42 GMT -5
Hawaii does have one stat that stands out, for at-large 4-4 vs. top 50 I don't get why Baylor should be such a shoe-in for an at-large when one compares the two resumes, I get Baylor has the higher RPI (due to losing to good teams) some good wins and plays in a tougher conference, but so does Hawaii have solid wins, and Hawaii's win % in top 50 and top 100 is so much better. not saying Baylor is a poor choice, and they have the case based on top 100, just there's not a vast difference. Hawaii must win today though. it may be only a top 100 win, but they have to have it. The reason why Baylor's win % is so much worse is because they played 7 top 25 teams and lost all of them, Hawaii played 1, and lost. Baylor's worst loss is a #56 Kansas State team who has all the wins to get into the NCAA Tournament anyways. Likely that Baylor will not have a loss to a non-tournament team. Hawaii, on the other hand, four losses outside of the top 50, to anywhere from 3-4 teams that won't make the tournament (depending on what happens with UCLA). With all that said, I like Hawaii's wins better than Baylor's. But Baylor playing and losing to top 25 teams when Hawaii didn't play as tough of competition shouldn't factor into your 'winning percentage' versus top 50. Sure, it's easier to get a better winning % vs. top 50 teams because you avoided top 25 competition. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Nov 24, 2023 13:05:06 GMT -5
Hawaii does have one stat that stands out, for at-large 4-4 vs. top 50 I don't get why Baylor should be such a shoe-in for an at-large when one compares the two resumes, I get Baylor has the higher RPI (due to losing to good teams) some good wins and plays in a tougher conference, but so does Hawaii have solid wins, and Hawaii's win % in top 50 and top 100 is so much better. not saying Baylor is a poor choice, and they have the case based on top 100, just there's not a vast difference. Hawaii must win today though. it may be only a top 100 win, but they have to have it. The reason why Baylor's win % is so much worse is because they played 7 top 25 teams and lost all of them, Hawaii played 1, and lost. Baylor's worst loss is a #56 Kansas State team who has all the wins to get into the NCAA Tournament anyways. Likely that Baylor will not have a loss to a non-tournament team. Hawaii, on the other hand, four losses outside of the top 50, to anywhere from 3-4 teams that won't make the tournament (depending on what happens with UCLA). With all that said, I like Hawaii's wins better than Baylor's. But Baylor playing and losing to top 25 teams when Hawaii didn't play as tough of competition shouldn't factor into your 'winning percentage' versus top 50. Sure, it's easier to get a better winning % vs. top 50 teams because you avoided top 25 competition. well, yes it should, because an assessnemnt should assess 0-7, not dismiss it. in fact, Baylor is essentially getting credit for losing, even if it is good opponents. even further, when a team has had the opportunity in so many times, there is an argument they don't deserve even more chances, granted that's not a selection criteria we can't say if Hawaii played 6 more top 25 opponents what would have happened either Discounting those top 25, Hawaii is 4-3 vs. the top 50, Balylor is 4-4. now, I agree Baylor has a distinct edge in top 100. I'm not saying Hawaii may be a better choice, just some of these horrific W-L records of P5 teams need to be looked at more from a winning % standpoint, along with 'good wins'. granted for mid-majors, just 2 games against top 50 makes it difficult to justify as well, and could point to a non-conference scheduling problem, sometimes the schedules don't work out and sometimes it's the result of bad scheduling non-conf. there will be about 40 teams (in that 20-60 RPI ) each year that IMO are really the matches mid-majors HAVE to get to make a case, and in the case of the BIg West, that means getting 5-6 of those teams over 4 weekends, so good luck getting agreements on that, and it's not necessarily easy when alot of those same 40 teams are trying to get on the scheduling agenda to get winnable / good win / good RPI type of matches. I always chuckle at commentary along the lines of "just schedule better" as if many of these programs can wave a magic wand and get that, especially if they want to play half their non-conf at home vs. be road warriors and further decrease their odds. |
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Post by medusa on Nov 24, 2023 13:23:45 GMT -5
If it happens to MWC upset, it could happen to BWC
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Post by 2left on Nov 24, 2023 13:42:11 GMT -5
Love UCSB's success this year, but of course would like to see 2 teams in the tourney, so rooting for LB or Hawaii to win. Plus never easy being the favorite and winning out. Look at USU. They only lost once in conference, but lost in the MWC tourney. As a Hawaii fan, I'm going to both matches today but don't know who to root for in the first match. For the good of the conference I'd like to see LBSU win to guarantee two BW teams get bids for the tournament. However, rooting for LBSU, especially at the Pyramid, is entirely against my DNA. I wanted them to match up against UCSB in the semis, but kept forgetting and rooting for UCI. I have no idea who Hawaii has a better chance against should Hawaii advance to the finals. UCSB has been the best team in the conference this year, but Hawaii actually has some good stats against them. Hawaii split against LBSU, but a hostile packed Pyramid is a really difficult place to play a big match in - I'm going to have flashbacks to being at the 2019 NCAA Men's Volleyball Championships. |
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Post by GauchoFreg on Nov 24, 2023 15:45:57 GMT -5
Psyched for the semifinal matchup and bringing a few friends and family to it.
Go Gauchos!
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Post by Timeless on Nov 24, 2023 17:44:30 GMT -5
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Post by rainbowcard on Nov 24, 2023 18:56:45 GMT -5
Rooting on UCSB!! Hopefully they can keep their winning streak 😩
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Post by VT Karen on Nov 24, 2023 19:01:10 GMT -5
I hope there are good crowds this evening
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Post by VT Karen on Nov 24, 2023 19:05:23 GMT -5
YES MAAM TASIA!
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Post by VT Karen on Nov 24, 2023 19:07:27 GMT -5
Teams trading fireballs. 4 all
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Post by rainbowcard on Nov 24, 2023 19:08:06 GMT -5
UCSB Hitting bombs though
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Post by VT Karen on Nov 24, 2023 19:09:57 GMT -5
Great transition dig and kill by LB. 8-5 LB
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Post by rainbowcard on Nov 24, 2023 19:10:29 GMT -5
This setter gonna ruin UCSB lol
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