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Post by JJVb on Nov 22, 2023 17:37:57 GMT -5
14s in the 4th.
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Post by BumpSetKill on Nov 22, 2023 17:55:37 GMT -5
Colorado wins in 4 sets.
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Post by BumpSetKill on Nov 22, 2023 18:02:11 GMT -5
COLORADO wins 3-1 on 9 aces & 9 blocks
- Tabron 17 kills @ .375, 2 blocks, 9 digs
- Howard 10 kills @ .500, 3 blocks
- Dwinnel 8 kills @ .368
CAL
- DeJardin 13 kills @ .444
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Post by JJVb on Nov 22, 2023 18:03:44 GMT -5
CU finishes it in 4, led by Tabron with 17 kills. Does CU have any chance left for a tourney berth?
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Post by BumpSetKill on Nov 22, 2023 18:06:03 GMT -5
CU finishes it in 4, led by Tabron with 17 kills. Does CU have any chance left for a tourney berth? Yep... but they likely need help from their opponents, and they must win against Utah. Things like Colorado State winning some matches in their tournament will help. |
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Post by baytree on Nov 22, 2023 19:15:31 GMT -5
CU finishes it in 4, led by Tabron with 17 kills. Does CU have any chance left for a tourney berth? I doubt it. Their modified rpi is 63, they have 1 top 25 win (ASU), and 1 26-50 win (USC). Their worst loss is to AZ (148) so that's not bad but it's going to be hard for them w such a low rpi, esp if the upcoming match vs Utah (rpi 127) gets factored into their rpi. I don't see any way that they get in.
The above is before the win over Cal gets factored in but Cal has an rpi of 74 so that isn't really going to help Colorado.
ETA: UCLA, who beat Colorado twice, has a similar resume as Colorado except they have two 26-50 wins instead of one (USC and Pepperdine) and a modified rpi of 56. I don't see how Colorado would get in over UCLA (based on their rpis and resumes) and UCLA may be a longshot right now.
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Post by BumpSetKill on Nov 22, 2023 19:52:16 GMT -5
CU finishes it in 4, led by Tabron with 17 kills. Does CU have any chance left for a tourney berth? I doubt it. Their modified rpi is 63, they have 1 top 25 win (ASU), and 1 26-50 win (USC). Their worst loss is to AZ (148) so that's not bad but it's going to be hard for them w such a low rpi, esp if the upcoming match vs Utah (rpi 127) gets factored into their rpi. I don't see any way that they get in, esp with so many AQs going chalk.
The above is before the win over Cal gets factored in but Cal has an rpi of 74 so that isn't really going to help Colorado.
ETA: UCLA, who beat Colorado twice, has a similar resume as Colorado except they have two 26-50 wins instead of one (USC and Pepperdine) and a modified rpi of 56. I don't see how Colorado would get in over UCLA (based on their rpis and resumes) and UCLA may be a longshot right now.
Not quite correct. Colorado also has two 26-50 wins (ASU and USC). They both have 1 Top-25 and two Top 50 wins. With the Cal win, CU is now at 60. Committee is also using KPI, and Colorado is in the 50's in that... and will go lower once that is updated. UCLA and Colorado are neck n neck in RPI now since UCLA dropped to 58/59 after the OSU win (keeps changing). CU and UCLA have pretty similar good wins/bad losses and UCLA wins the head-head, BUT UCLA is favored to lose against USC and CU is favored to win against Utah.... so that will be a close one if the committee were to look at both... but I wouldn't count out CU if they pull ahead of UCLA in RPI/KPI. Also, Colorado has more chances for their RPI to improve if teams like CSU does well in the MW tourney, etc. Not so much for UCLA and their opponents' rest of schedule. Plus, the committee could accept BOTH of them if they are comfortably in the lower 50's. With the PAC having the best Conference RPI, it's not unheard of to send 7 instead of 5 (especially if 6 and 7 are so very close).  |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 22, 2023 20:01:39 GMT -5
I doubt it. Their modified rpi is 63, they have 1 top 25 win (ASU), and 1 26-50 win (USC). Their worst loss is to AZ (148) so that's not bad but it's going to be hard for them w such a low rpi, esp if the upcoming match vs Utah (rpi 127) gets factored into their rpi. I don't see any way that they get in, esp with so many AQs going chalk.
The above is before the win over Cal gets factored in but Cal has an rpi of 74 so that isn't really going to help Colorado.
ETA: UCLA, who beat Colorado twice, has a similar resume as Colorado except they have two 26-50 wins instead of one (USC and Pepperdine) and a modified rpi of 56. I don't see how Colorado would get in over UCLA (based on their rpis and resumes) and UCLA may be a longshot right now.
Not quite correct. Colorado also has two 26-50 wins (ASU and USC). They both have 1 Top-25 and two Top 50 wins. With the Cal win, CU is now at 60. Committee is also using KPI, and Colorado is in the 50's in that... and will go lower once that is updated. UCLA and Colorado are neck n neck in RPI now since UCLA dropped to 58/59 after the OSU win (keeps changing). CU and UCLA have pretty similar good wins/bad losses and UCLA wins the head-head, BUT UCLA is favored to lose against USC and CU is favored to win against Utah.... so that will be a close one if the committee were to look at both... but I wouldn't count out CU if they pull ahead of UCLA in RPI/KPI. Also, Colorado has more chances for their RPI to improve if teams like CSU does well in the MW tourney, etc. Not so much for UCLA and their opponents' rest of schedule. Plus, the committee could accept BOTH of them if they are comfortably in the lower 50's. With the PAC having the best Conference RPI, it's not unheard of to send 7 instead of 5 (especially if 6 and 7 are so very close). CU's RPI is going to drop after playing Utah, even if they win. CSU maybe winning a match is not going to significantly change their RPI either. They are not going to get in range, and there are bubble teams with better wins. CU either needed to do better against the mid-level PAC teams or not take losses to Arizona and UNLV. Both is unsurmountable. |
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Post by baytree on Nov 22, 2023 20:06:10 GMT -5
I doubt it. Their modified rpi is 63, they have 1 top 25 win (ASU), and 1 26-50 win (USC). Their worst loss is to AZ (148) so that's not bad but it's going to be hard for them w such a low rpi, esp if the upcoming match vs Utah (rpi 127) gets factored into their rpi. I don't see any way that they get in, esp with so many AQs going chalk.
The above is before the win over Cal gets factored in but Cal has an rpi of 74 so that isn't really going to help Colorado.
ETA: UCLA, who beat Colorado twice, has a similar resume as Colorado except they have two 26-50 wins instead of one (USC and Pepperdine) and a modified rpi of 56. I don't see how Colorado would get in over UCLA (based on their rpis and resumes) and UCLA may be a longshot right now.
Not quite correct. Colorado also has two 26-50 wins (ASU and USC). They both have 1 Top-25 and two Top 50 wins. With the Cal win, CU is now at 60. Committee is also using KPI, and Colorado is in the 50's in that... and will go lower once that is updated. UCLA and Colorado are neck n neck in RPI now since UCLA dropped to 58/59 after the OSU win (keeps changing). CU and UCLA have pretty similar good wins/bad losses and UCLA wins the head-head, BUT UCLA is favored to lose against USC and CU is favored to win against Utah.... so that will be a close one if the committee were to look at both... but I wouldn't count out CU if they pull ahead of UCLA in RPI/KPI. Also, Colorado has more chances for their RPI to improve if teams like CSU does well in the MW tourney, etc. Not so much for UCLA and their opponents' rest of schedule. Plus, the committee could accept BOTH of them if they are comfortably in the lower 50's. With the PAC having the best Conference RPI, it's not unheard of to send 7 instead of 5 (especially if 6 and 7 are so very close). I had ASU listed as 1-25. UCLA has a top 25 win vs WSU plus 26-50 wins against Pepperdine and USC. Basically, both have a top 25 win (ASU or WSU), a 26-50 win (USC) but UCLA also has a top 50 win against Pepperdine, plus two head to head wins over Colorado.
No one knows if they will use KPI. In the bracketology thread, someone (noob?) posted that the soccer selection committee member said that they did not use kpi bc they weren't familiar with it yet. As of the most recent KPI, UCLA is #46 (0.287) and Colorado is #57 (0.246) so I'm not sure Colorado will be better in KPI even if they use it.
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Post by BumpSetKill on Nov 22, 2023 20:08:05 GMT -5
Not quite correct. Colorado also has two 26-50 wins (ASU and USC). They both have 1 Top-25 and two Top 50 wins. With the Cal win, CU is now at 60. Committee is also using KPI, and Colorado is in the 50's in that... and will go lower once that is updated. UCLA and Colorado are neck n neck in RPI now since UCLA dropped to 58/59 after the OSU win (keeps changing). CU and UCLA have pretty similar good wins/bad losses and UCLA wins the head-head, BUT UCLA is favored to lose against USC and CU is favored to win against Utah.... so that will be a close one if the committee were to look at both... but I wouldn't count out CU if they pull ahead of UCLA in RPI/KPI. Also, Colorado has more chances for their RPI to improve if teams like CSU does well in the MW tourney, etc. Not so much for UCLA and their opponents' rest of schedule. Plus, the committee could accept BOTH of them if they are comfortably in the lower 50's. With the PAC having the best Conference RPI, it's not unheard of to send 7 instead of 5 (especially if 6 and 7 are so very close). CU's RPI is going to drop after playing Utah, even if they win. CSU maybe winning a match is not going to significantly change their RPI either. They are not going to get in range, and there are bubble teams with better wins. CU either needed to do better against the mid-level PAC teams or not take losses to Arizona and UNLV. Both is unsurmountable. I never said it was a for-sure thing, but there is definitely an outside chance. RPI's in the mid/late 50's have been accepted as bids by the NCAA and CU has a chance to get there, and now KPI is also being considered and CU fares even better in that. A Utah win may not drop or drop much. I have found lately that wins against top 125 RPI's can keep you pretty even when looking at RPI, and Utah is still there. UCLA dropped because OSU is 155. Also, everytime CSU wins, it seems to push CU up a bit since they played twice. There are other opponents of CU that can still push them up. |
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Post by volleyball303 on Nov 22, 2023 20:10:55 GMT -5
I think CU needed to win that match point against Arizona or upset WSU which did not happen. Unfortunately way for a good group of seniors to go out. Wish Tabron was coming back. I hope she lands somewhere she can help the team compete at a high level. She would be a great OH2 on some top 25 teams.
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Post by BumpSetKill on Nov 22, 2023 20:12:34 GMT -5
Not quite correct. Colorado also has two 26-50 wins (ASU and USC). They both have 1 Top-25 and two Top 50 wins. With the Cal win, CU is now at 60. Committee is also using KPI, and Colorado is in the 50's in that... and will go lower once that is updated. UCLA and Colorado are neck n neck in RPI now since UCLA dropped to 58/59 after the OSU win (keeps changing). CU and UCLA have pretty similar good wins/bad losses and UCLA wins the head-head, BUT UCLA is favored to lose against USC and CU is favored to win against Utah.... so that will be a close one if the committee were to look at both... but I wouldn't count out CU if they pull ahead of UCLA in RPI/KPI. Also, Colorado has more chances for their RPI to improve if teams like CSU does well in the MW tourney, etc. Not so much for UCLA and their opponents' rest of schedule. Plus, the committee could accept BOTH of them if they are comfortably in the lower 50's. With the PAC having the best Conference RPI, it's not unheard of to send 7 instead of 5 (especially if 6 and 7 are so very close). I had ASU listed as 1-25. UCLA has a top 25 win vs WSU plus 26-50 wins against Pepperdine and USC. Basically, both have a top 25 win (ASU or WSU), a 26-50 win (USC) but UCLA also has a top 50 win against Pepperdine, plus two head to head wins over Colorado.
No one knows if they will use KPI. In the bracketology thread, someone (noob?) posted that the soccer selection committee member said that they did not use kpi bc they weren't familiar with it yet. As of the most recent KPI, UCLA is #46 (0.287) and Colorado is #57 (0.246) so I'm not sure Colorado will be better in KPI even if they use it.
Why do you keep saying UCLA beat USC? They didn't. Like I said, UCLA and CU both have the same amount of Top 25 and Top 50 in wins. That KPI is before the UCLA and CU wins today, and before the predicted UCLA loss and CU wins in a couple days. In any case, we shall see on how it plays out... but I'm thinking it will be a lot closer than one may think. |
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Post by BumpSetKill on Nov 22, 2023 20:14:38 GMT -5
I think CU needed to win that match point against Arizona or upset WSU which did not happen. Unfortunately way for a good group of seniors to go out. Wish Tabron was coming back. I hope she lands somewhere she can help the team compete at a high level. She would be a great OH2 on some top 25 teams. Yes, Hadrych being out for 6 matches hurt them.. including Arizona (especially when they had match points against Arizona). As per usual with Colorado, they miss their most important score maker for too much of the season AGAIN. |
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Post by baytree on Nov 22, 2023 20:21:27 GMT -5
I had ASU listed as 1-25. UCLA has a top 25 win vs WSU plus 26-50 wins against Pepperdine and USC. Basically, both have a top 25 win (ASU or WSU), a 26-50 win (USC) but UCLA also has a top 50 win against Pepperdine, plus two head to head wins over Colorado.
No one knows if they will use KPI. In the bracketology thread, someone (noob?) posted that the soccer selection committee member said that they did not use kpi bc they weren't familiar with it yet. As of the most recent KPI, UCLA is #46 (0.287) and Colorado is #57 (0.246) so I'm not sure Colorado will be better in KPI even if they use it.
That KPI is before the UCLA and CU wins today, and before the predicted UCLA loss and CU wins in a couple days. In any case, we shall see on how it plays out... but I'm thinking it will be a lot closer than one may think. You're right. My mistake. Sorry. I'm trying to do RL stuff and make Friday's match threads.
kpi updates every morning. I think everyone who looks at kpi knows that. (maybe not, but then they haven't looked at it much.) I don't think anyone knows how much (if any) weight the committee will put on kpi. My guess is that they may use it if it helps them justify something they wanted to do anyway. We'll see. I don't think Colorado has a chance. You do. We'll find out on Sunday (i.e., Colorado makes the tournament or is one of the first four out).
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Post by rtael on Nov 22, 2023 20:21:50 GMT -5
I would love to think CU is getting in...but they're not.  |
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