College Volleyball Transfers (2024)

[n00b]

Dec 3, 2023 14:08:53 GMT -5 vbnerd said:

Dec 3, 2023 12:24:37 GMT -5 babybacksets said:

This is not actually a thing they care about. This is just a volleytalk issue.

Right, no athletes care about this, except for the ones on social media who say they care about it, and the ones who don’t want to gripe publicly, but tell their club coaches and recruiting advisors they are thinking about it, and the lack of a straight answer on what the new schedules and travel arrangements will look like… But when the coaches repeat those concerns on here, it absolutely has nothing to do with the athletes!

And some athletes don't want to go to Stanford because the academic rigor is too much. And some don't want Wisconsin because of the cold weather. And some are turned off by Nebraska because... it's in Nebraska.

I have no doubt there are some recruits who it could negatively affect. AND if the coaches at these programs know what they're doing, the four western Big Ten schools are now a LOT more appealing to athletes from the midwest. And there is a LOT of talent in traditional Big Ten territory. It's going to be a net positive for these programs.

[trojansc]

Dec 3, 2023 12:39:06 GMT -5 Norah Sus said:

Dec 3, 2023 12:24:37 GMT -5 babybacksets said:

This is not actually a thing they care about. This is just a volleytalk issue.

Not yet, maybe. But after a year of it, they will. (Especially if they’ve experienced a year without it.)

Travel fatigue is a real thing; it wasn’t invented by VT, but it’s flattering how much credit as you want to give us.

USC used to bus to the Arizona's not that long ago. How is that not worse than some of the potential B1G travel?

[trojansc]

Oh no, we can't go to Pullman anymore? i'm so upset.

[n00b]

I mean, if you're from California and think the travel is going to be terrible, what other option do you have? Do we really think top level talent will stay in the Big West or WCC or new Pac/Mt West just to avoid the travel?

[trojansc]

I do think we need to consider all factors in travel. If anyone has traveled extensively, you've probably identified favorite airports/routes/etc. let alone the potential to charter flights. Not dealing with security is a HUGE plus.

You can also be more stressed travelling a shorter distance even in the same time zone rather than two time zones over.

We'll have to see, but, I think at the end the pros outweigh the cons - and at the end of the day, I hope the athletes will be able to determine what's best for them. Athletes generally love playing in front of big crowds on the road. It's intimidating, but, it's something you remember and winning in a tough road environment is an awesome feeling. I can't see why some of these PAC --> B1G teams aren't excited to play in those environments regularly.

[n00b]

Dec 3, 2023 14:18:07 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Dec 3, 2023 12:39:06 GMT -5 Norah Sus said:

Not yet, maybe. But after a year of it, they will. (Especially if they’ve experienced a year without it.)

Travel fatigue is a real thing; it wasn’t invented by VT, but it’s flattering how much credit as you want to give us.

USC used to bus to the Arizona's not that long ago. How is that not worse than some of the potential B1G travel?

I will say, part of this deal for more money absolutely should be chartered flights. My understanding (although I could be wrong) was that most of the Pac-12 did NOT charter flights. Which makes some sense because most schools are relatively close to major airports. But if Oregon/Washington/UCLA/USC transition from flying commercial in the Pac-12 to chartering in the Big Ten, they might actually spend LESS time traveling despite the longer times in the air.

[trojansc]

Dec 3, 2023 14:24:27 GMT -5 n00b said:

I mean, if you're from California and think the travel is going to be terrible, what other option do you have? Do we really think top level talent will stay in the Big West or WCC or new Pac/Mt West just to avoid the travel?

I do think some top-level West coast talent might stay in the WCC (particularly those looking for a religious aspect). Maybe Long Beach State keeps some locals as they are trending up. But, I think these numbers will be very small (and already are)

[n00b]

Dec 3, 2023 14:28:28 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Dec 3, 2023 14:24:27 GMT -5 n00b said:

I mean, if you're from California and think the travel is going to be terrible, what other option do you have? Do we really think top level talent will stay in the Big West or WCC or new Pac/Mt West just to avoid the travel?

I hope there are still some top level players that could choose to stay in the WCC. I do think some top-level West coast talent might stay in the WCC (particularly those looking for a religious aspect). Maybe Long Beach State keeps some locals as they are trending up. But, I think these numbers will be very small (and already are)

I guess it depends on what you consider top-level. Aside from USD's grand transfer all star team, is anybody turning down an offer from USC/UCLA/Washington/Oregon/Stanford to go to a Big West or WCC program?

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Dec 3, 2023 14:28:28 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Dec 3, 2023 14:24:27 GMT -5 n00b said:

I mean, if you're from California and think the travel is going to be terrible, what other option do you have? Do we really think top level talent will stay in the Big West or WCC or new Pac/Mt West just to avoid the travel?

I do think some top-level West coast talent might stay in the WCC (particularly those looking for a religious aspect). Maybe Long Beach State keeps some locals as they are trending up. But, I think these numbers will be very small (and already are)

here! I’ve fixed the problem. All WSU/OSU gotta do to save the PAC 12 is poach/pic up some school in the area. Then there’s not as big of a travel concern and the Pac12 will still be alive and well. Not sure how competitive it will be in all sports but I’m choosing to live in delusion for now. The new PAC 12 could be something like this.

Oregon State
Washington State
Eastern Washington
Utah State
Utah Tech
Colorado State
San Diego
Hawaii
Denver
Weber State

[Norah Sus]

Dec 3, 2023 14:18:07 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Dec 3, 2023 12:39:06 GMT -5 Norah Sus said:

Not yet, maybe. But after a year of it, they will. (Especially if they’ve experienced a year without it.)

Travel fatigue is a real thing; it wasn’t invented by VT, but it’s flattering how much credit as you want to give us.

USC used to bus to the Arizona's not that long ago. How is that not worse than some of the potential B1G travel?

Buses don’t have pressurized cabins, but… going on a bus through the desert sounds awful, too. (And also I doubt there will be a huge impact to who goes where, I tend to think it is an overblown problem that young elite athletes don’t/won’t feel as much as someone like me. I do, however, think it will be a factor that more students will begin to consider in their decisions - whether it ends up impacting the decision or not.)

[c4ndlelight]

Dec 3, 2023 14:08:53 GMT -5 vbnerd said:

Dec 3, 2023 12:24:37 GMT -5 babybacksets said:

This is not actually a thing they care about. This is just a volleytalk issue.

Right, no athletes care about this, except for the ones on social media who say they care about it, and the ones who don’t want to gripe publicly, but tell their club coaches and recruiting advisors they are thinking about it, and the lack of a straight answer on what the new schedules and travel arrangements will look like… But when the coaches repeat those concerns on here, it absolutely has nothing to do with the athletes!

What volleyball athletes are posting on social media about being against switching from the PAC to the B1G? Can you please point me to them?

I've heard this refrain but I only got a stray post or two from softball players. Besides being a completely different sport, those athletes were downgrading from a premier conference to much weaker ones and were AZ/CA student-athletes for whom realignment meant they lost the chance to play conference games at "home."

[n00b]

Dec 3, 2023 15:30:27 GMT -5 c4ndlelight said:

Dec 3, 2023 14:08:53 GMT -5 vbnerd said:

Right, no athletes care about this, except for the ones on social media who say they care about it, and the ones who don’t want to gripe publicly, but tell their club coaches and recruiting advisors they are thinking about it, and the lack of a straight answer on what the new schedules and travel arrangements will look like… But when the coaches repeat those concerns on here, it absolutely has nothing to do with the athletes!

What volleyball athletes are posting on social media about being against switching from the PAC to the B1G? Can you please point me to them?

I've heard this refrain but I only got a stray post or two from softball players. Besides being a completely different sport, those athletes were downgrading from a premier conference to much weaker ones and were AZ/CA student-athletes for whom realignment meant they lost the chance to play conference games at "home."

And have to play an outdoor sport in the upper midwest in March and April. I'd be unhappy about that too.

[babybacksets]

Dec 3, 2023 14:08:53 GMT -5 vbnerd said:

Dec 3, 2023 12:24:37 GMT -5 babybacksets said:

This is not actually a thing they care about. This is just a volleytalk issue.

Right, no athletes care about this, except for the ones on social media who say they care about it, and the ones who don’t want to gripe publicly, but tell their club coaches and recruiting advisors they are thinking about it, and the lack of a straight answer on what the new schedules and travel arrangements will look like… But when the coaches repeat those concerns on here, it absolutely has nothing to do with the athletes!

I don’t doubt at all that you a stalking social media to that extent where you think your sample size speaks for the majority

[babybacksets]

Dec 3, 2023 13:34:27 GMT -5 robtearle said:

Dec 3, 2023 13:21:01 GMT -5 babybacksets said:

Rainelle Jones says a lot of things

Like A LOT of things….

You said "it's a VolleyTalk issue". A B1G player was asked, and said otherwise. Believe it, don't believe it, that's your choice. That's what she said.

Lol that went way over your head, which is fine

[Norah Sus]

Dec 3, 2023 15:59:32 GMT -5 babybacksets said:

Dec 3, 2023 14:08:53 GMT -5 vbnerd said:

Right, no athletes care about this, except for the ones on social media who say they care about it, and the ones who don’t want to gripe publicly, but tell their club coaches and recruiting advisors they are thinking about it, and the lack of a straight answer on what the new schedules and travel arrangements will look like… But when the coaches repeat those concerns on here, it absolutely has nothing to do with the athletes!

I don’t doubt at all that you a stalking social media to that extent where you think your sample size speaks for the majority

That’s sort of a circular insult. “I bet you’re stalking 24/7” would be strengthened by “so much that *I* think your opinion is the majority”

But anyway who ever said this would affect ‘the majority?’ I think you maybe misinterpreted someone thinking that some athletes’ decisions may be impacted and you couldn’t bare not being right so you tried coming up with an insult that doesn’t even make sense.

“I bet you think your opinion is the majority” would make more sense if you think someone only read one social media post and came forward with it claiming it’s the majority opinion.