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Post by katn on May 7, 2024 10:35:02 GMT -5
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Post by eyeroll2021 on May 7, 2024 14:50:17 GMT -5
Best comment: "Can't spell MVP without MP"
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Post by hornshouse23 on May 7, 2024 20:45:55 GMT -5
Best comment: "Can't spell MVP without MP" I cannot wait for her to hit the AVP. Now that’s a longhorn legend!
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Post by katn on May 8, 2024 13:29:10 GMT -5
since eggleston is traveling around europe (so far italy & greece) with her sister (who just graduated college) & a friend (who just got accepted into medical school) this trip was probably planned...i wonder if she was invited to train in the national gym this summer but turned it down...i'm glad she taking care of herself & having fun...i'm stoked she'll be back in atx
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Post by diatx on May 8, 2024 16:02:20 GMT -5
since eggleston is traveling around europe (so far italy & greece) with her sister (who just graduated college) & a friend (who just got accepted into medical school) this trip was probably planned...i wonder if she was invited to train in the national gym this summer but turned it down...i'm glad she taking care of herself & having fun...i'm stoked she'll be back in atx I had the same thought. It looks like they have a pretty set itinerary and I doubt it was done spur of the moment. Either way she seems like she’s having a blast and I’m so happy for her!
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Post by texasex01 on May 8, 2024 18:22:38 GMT -5
So with Madi training with the NT, who do you think will be the starting left OHs for the European trip?
I think it's a given that Jenna will be the 6-rotation OH.
Next up in line should be Devin with her ball control skills. But I think she consistently hits better on the right pin than the left. If she decides to stay her Sr year, I can maybe see Devin being utilized as a passing 6-rotation Opp hitter.
Is it a sure thing that Whitney is red-shirting this upcoming season to recover from surgery? With Reagan and Devin currently on the right pin, I'd like to see Whitney given the opportunity to hit on the left if she is available.
Both Jordyn and Sydney need to develop on the left pin if that's where they want to play. Jordyn needs to work on her overall passing and transitioning from passing to hitting, and Sydney needs to learn to put more power into her hits.
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Post by biodogtexas on May 8, 2024 20:13:42 GMT -5
So with Madi training with the NT, who do you think will be the starting left OHs for the European trip? I think it's a given that Jenna will be the 6-rotation OH. Next up in line should be Devin with her ball control skills. But I think she consistently hits better on the right pin than the left. If she decides to stay her Sr year, I can maybe see Devin being utilized as a passing 6-rotation Opp hitter. Is it a sure thing that Whitney is red-shirting this upcoming season to recover from surgery? With Reagan and Devin currently on the right pin, I'd like to see Whitney given the opportunity to hit on the left if she is available. Both Jordyn and Sydney need to develop on the left pin if that's where they want to play. Jordyn needs to work on her overall passing and transitioning from passing to hitting, and Sydney needs to learn to put more power into her hits. Whitney already took a redshirt last year and her surgery should have been months ago at the latest. It's hard to imagine she wouldn't already be recovered. She only gets a 2nd redshirt year if she and the compliance people are certain she can get a waiver for a medical redshirt for her post-partum recovery from pregnancy last year. Her child is already pretty much a year old. I think it's more likely she plays sparingly this year behind Skinner and Wenaas as she works back into her peak form and then takes one of their spots next year when they are both gone.
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Post by austinhorn21 on May 8, 2024 21:02:46 GMT -5
So with Madi training with the NT, who do you think will be the starting left OHs for the European trip? I think it's a given that Jenna will be the 6-rotation OH. Next up in line should be Devin with her ball control skills. But I think she consistently hits better on the right pin than the left. If she decides to stay her Sr year, I can maybe see Devin being utilized as a passing 6-rotation Opp hitter. Is it a sure thing that Whitney is red-shirting this upcoming season to recover from surgery? With Reagan and Devin currently on the right pin, I'd like to see Whitney given the opportunity to hit on the left if she is available. Both Jordyn and Sydney need to develop on the left pin if that's where they want to play. Jordyn needs to work on her overall passing and transitioning from passing to hitting, and Sydney needs to learn to put more power into her hits. Whitney already took a redshirt last year and her surgery should have been months ago at the latest. It's hard to imagine she wouldn't already be recovered. She only gets a 2nd redshirt year if she and the compliance people are certain she can get a waiver for a medical redshirt for her post-partum recovery from pregnancy last year. Her child is already pretty much a year old. I think it's more likely she plays sparingly this year behind Skinner and Wenaas as she works back into her peak form and then takes one of their spots next year when they are both gone. you never know what will happen but I think a red shirt year will happen. How hard is it to get a medical red shirt?
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Post by Longhorn20 on May 8, 2024 21:08:34 GMT -5
So with Madi training with the NT, who do you think will be the starting left OHs for the European trip? I think it's a given that Jenna will be the 6-rotation OH. Next up in line should be Devin with her ball control skills. But I think she consistently hits better on the right pin than the left. If she decides to stay her Sr year, I can maybe see Devin being utilized as a passing 6-rotation Opp hitter. Is it a sure thing that Whitney is red-shirting this upcoming season to recover from surgery? With Reagan and Devin currently on the right pin, I'd like to see Whitney given the opportunity to hit on the left if she is available. Both Jordyn and Sydney need to develop on the left pin if that's where they want to play. Jordyn needs to work on her overall passing and transitioning from passing to hitting, and Sydney needs to learn to put more power into her hits. Whitney already took a redshirt last year and her surgery should have been months ago at the latest. It's hard to imagine she wouldn't already be recovered. She only gets a 2nd redshirt year if she and the compliance people are certain she can get a waiver for a medical redshirt for her post-partum recovery from pregnancy last year. Her child is already pretty much a year old. I think it's more likely she plays sparingly this year behind Skinner and Wenaas as she works back into her peak form and then takes one of their spots next year when they are both gone. Can’t you get a specific redshirt separate for pregnancy/childbirth? And then she could do another one this year since we have both Devin and Rutherford?
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Post by slxpress on May 8, 2024 21:18:53 GMT -5
Whitney already took a redshirt last year and her surgery should have been months ago at the latest. It's hard to imagine she wouldn't already be recovered. She only gets a 2nd redshirt year if she and the compliance people are certain she can get a waiver for a medical redshirt for her post-partum recovery from pregnancy last year. Her child is already pretty much a year old. I think it's more likely she plays sparingly this year behind Skinner and Wenaas as she works back into her peak form and then takes one of their spots next year when they are both gone. you never know what will happen but I think a red shirt year will happen. How hard is it to get a medical red shirt? It’s easy to confuse the terms redshirt, medical redshirt, and medical waiver. A redshirt is when a player doesn’t play at all for an entire year, Every student athlete gets 5 years to play 4. I’m going to ignore Covid and other j ow exceptions for a moment. A medical redshirt is a little bit of a misnomer. It’s still a redshirt, but if a player can show they have a documented injury and they played less than 30% of the games prior to the injury, they’re automatically granted a redshirt. For teams in a conference, this is handled at the conference level. It’s pretty cut and dried. There’s no real difference between a redshirt and a medical redshirt. There’s not one - a redshirt - and then an additional redshirt available - the medical redshirt. There’s only the one redshirt and both of them require the player to use up their 4 years of eligibility in 5 years. There is a medical waiver, but this is handled at the NCAA level and is only applied for after a player’s eligibility is about to expire. Basically if a player loses a year because of some kind of redshirt, and THEN loses an additional year for a circumstance the NCAA seems worthy of a waiver - generally a season ending injury but it doesn’t have to be - the school can apply to the NCAA on behalf of the student to request the NCAA grant the student athlete an additional year of eligibility. A couple of decades ago the NCAA was persnickety about when they granted a waiver, but that’s changed a lot. I do not know if Lauenstein would be granted a waiver after her eligibility is through, but it seems to me she might have a case for it. Who knows what the NCAA will be doing or what it will look like when that time comes?
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Post by slxpress on May 8, 2024 21:26:09 GMT -5
Whitney already took a redshirt last year and her surgery should have been months ago at the latest. It's hard to imagine she wouldn't already be recovered. She only gets a 2nd redshirt year if she and the compliance people are certain she can get a waiver for a medical redshirt for her post-partum recovery from pregnancy last year. Her child is already pretty much a year old. I think it's more likely she plays sparingly this year behind Skinner and Wenaas as she works back into her peak form and then takes one of their spots next year when they are both gone. Can’t you get a specific redshirt separate for pregnancy/childbirth? And then she could do another one this year since we have both Devin and Rutherford? “Finally, you should also know that NCAA bylaws allow a female student-athlete to apply for an additional year of eligibility if her athletic career is interrupted by pregnancy.” It’s basically similar to a mission trip. It’s not really a redshirt. That’s too much of a catchall term. It’s an additional year of eligibility. I mentioned she could apply for a medical waiver after her eligibility is through, but it looks like that wouldn’t be necessary. The pregnancy could count as a year, and then she’d still have 5 years to complete 4 outside of the time she was pregnant.
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Post by katn on May 9, 2024 9:51:47 GMT -5
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Post by stevehorn on May 9, 2024 10:23:55 GMT -5
Can’t you get a specific redshirt separate for pregnancy/childbirth? And then she could do another one this year since we have both Devin and Rutherford? “Finally, you should also know that NCAA bylaws allow a female student-athlete to apply for an additional year of eligibility if her athletic career is interrupted by pregnancy.” It’s basically similar to a mission trip. It’s not really a redshirt. That’s too much of a catchall term. It’s an additional year of eligibility. I mentioned she could apply for a medical waiver after her eligibility is through, but it looks like that wouldn’t be necessary. The pregnancy could count as a year, and then she’d still have 5 years to complete 4 outside of the time she was pregnant. This will be a response to both the quoted post and the following one on how the pregnancy year is handled. Good responses and I thought I would add a bit for further clarification. For starters, medical redshirt is not an official term. You won't find it anywhere in the NCAA manual. In fact, the NCAA doesn't use the term medical but typically they call it "hardship". That's because the eligibility rules as stated apply to "circumstances beyond the school's and athlete's" control" and not just injuries or medical. IIRC, I don't think the NCAA manual uses the term redshirt anywhere. You are correct that missing a year for pregnancy is similar to a mission trip and is not like a redshirt year. In a redshirt year, you still use one of your five years in "five years to play four", but you do not use a year of eligibility. In a pregnancy year, you don't use either. On this subject, there are three general categories. The first is the typical "redshirt" year. This is the common occurrence where you don't play in a season for any reason. Most commonly it is a "coach's" decision to not play you so you don't use one of your years of eligibility, but it can be for injury or any other reason. The second category is when a player plays a few games/matches/etc., but then misses the rest of the year. Typically it is due to injury, but can be for any circumstance beyond the school's or player's control. I believe the manual calls it a hardship waiver. There is a set of criteria which limit how much you can "play" and still be eligible for the waiver. If you meet the criteria and granted the waiver, then that season doesn't count as a year of eligibility. The third category is what is where a player is granted a "sixth year". This is where a player misses at least two years of eligibility so they still have eligibility left when their five year clock expires. As you wrote, the athlete can then apply for a "sixth year" so they can use the remaining eligibility. Until a few years ago, you weren't eligible for the sixth year unless you missed at least two years due to injury or other hardship. A normal redshirt year where you just didn't play did not count. The rule now is that they allow the first missed year to include a normal redshirt year, but I'm pretty sure only the first year.
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Post by biodogtexas on May 9, 2024 14:03:01 GMT -5
“Finally, you should also know that NCAA bylaws allow a female student-athlete to apply for an additional year of eligibility if her athletic career is interrupted by pregnancy.” It’s basically similar to a mission trip. It’s not really a redshirt. That’s too much of a catchall term. It’s an additional year of eligibility. I mentioned she could apply for a medical waiver after her eligibility is through, but it looks like that wouldn’t be necessary. The pregnancy could count as a year, and then she’d still have 5 years to complete 4 outside of the time she was pregnant. This will be a response to both the quoted post and the following one on how the pregnancy year is handled. Good responses and I thought I would add a bit for further clarification. For starters, medical redshirt is not an official term. You won't find it anywhere in the NCAA manual. In fact, the NCAA doesn't use the term medical but typically they call it "hardship". That's because the eligibility rules as stated apply to "circumstances beyond the school's and athlete's" control" and not just injuries or medical. IIRC, I don't think the NCAA manual uses the term redshirt anywhere. You are correct that missing a year for pregnancy is similar to a mission trip and is not like a redshirt year. In a redshirt year, you still use one of your five years in "five years to play four", but you do not use a year of eligibility. In a pregnancy year, you don't use either. On this subject, there are three general categories. The first is the typical "redshirt" year. This is the common occurrence where you don't play in a season for any reason. Most commonly it is a "coach's" decision to not play you so you don't use one of your years of eligibility, but it can be for injury or any other reason. The second category is when a player plays a few games/matches/etc., but then misses the rest of the year. Typically it is due to injury, but can be for any circumstance beyond the school's or player's control. I believe the manual calls it a hardship waiver. There is a set of criteria which limit how much you can "play" and still be eligible for the waiver. If you meet the criteria and granted the waiver, then that season doesn't count as a year of eligibility. The third category is what is where a player is granted a "sixth year". This is where a player misses at least two years of eligibility so they still have eligibility left when their five year clock expires. As you wrote, the athlete can then apply for a "sixth year" so they can use the remaining eligibility. Until a few years ago, you weren't eligible for the sixth year unless you missed at least two years due to injury or other hardship. A normal redshirt year where you just didn't play did not count. The rule now is that they allow the first missed year to include a normal redshirt year, but I'm pretty sure only the first year. All of this you and slxpress is indeed true, however, this hitch in the plan i'm trying to point out is that Whitney did not miss time while she was pregnant. She played through and finshed the end of the season for Nebraska in 2022 dring the initial months of her pregnancy. She then had her kid in june (i'm pretty sure), and then was not part of the Nebraska team 3 months later when the season started. I'm trying to point out that I have no idea if being 3 months post-delivery really qualifies for the conventional "medical redshirt" an athlete would get. 3 months is typically enough to return to normal activities. So did she miss the year because of the baby, or because she was quietly kicked off the team? It's not cut and dry to me (but i'm out of my depth) like it would be if she was 6 months pregnant at the start of the season. So she's not "redshirting" unless Texas compliance is sure that it will. I think it's a moot point anyway. She's 1+ years post-baby, she'll be nearly a year post-injury. She should be in great shape to play. The only reason they'd want to redshirt her is if they want her on the team in 2026 more than in 2024. Based on their recruiting, i'm not sure if that's a concern. All hands on deck to threepeat.
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Post by stevehorn on May 9, 2024 14:53:12 GMT -5
This will be a response to both the quoted post and the following one on how the pregnancy year is handled. Good responses and I thought I would add a bit for further clarification. For starters, medical redshirt is not an official term. You won't find it anywhere in the NCAA manual. In fact, the NCAA doesn't use the term medical but typically they call it "hardship". That's because the eligibility rules as stated apply to "circumstances beyond the school's and athlete's" control" and not just injuries or medical. IIRC, I don't think the NCAA manual uses the term redshirt anywhere. You are correct that missing a year for pregnancy is similar to a mission trip and is not like a redshirt year. In a redshirt year, you still use one of your five years in "five years to play four", but you do not use a year of eligibility. In a pregnancy year, you don't use either. On this subject, there are three general categories. The first is the typical "redshirt" year. This is the common occurrence where you don't play in a season for any reason. Most commonly it is a "coach's" decision to not play you so you don't use one of your years of eligibility, but it can be for injury or any other reason. The second category is when a player plays a few games/matches/etc., but then misses the rest of the year. Typically it is due to injury, but can be for any circumstance beyond the school's or player's control. I believe the manual calls it a hardship waiver. There is a set of criteria which limit how much you can "play" and still be eligible for the waiver. If you meet the criteria and granted the waiver, then that season doesn't count as a year of eligibility. The third category is what is where a player is granted a "sixth year". This is where a player misses at least two years of eligibility so they still have eligibility left when their five year clock expires. As you wrote, the athlete can then apply for a "sixth year" so they can use the remaining eligibility. Until a few years ago, you weren't eligible for the sixth year unless you missed at least two years due to injury or other hardship. A normal redshirt year where you just didn't play did not count. The rule now is that they allow the first missed year to include a normal redshirt year, but I'm pretty sure only the first year. All of this you and slxpress is indeed true, however, this hitch in the plan i'm trying to point out is that Whitney did not miss time while she was pregnant. She played through and finshed the end of the season for Nebraska in 2022 dring the initial months of her pregnancy. She then had her kid in june (i'm pretty sure), and then was not part of the Nebraska team 3 months later when the season started. I'm trying to point out that I have no idea if being 3 months post-delivery really qualifies for the conventional "medical redshirt" an athlete would get. 3 months is typically enough to return to normal activities. So did she miss the year because of the baby, or because she was quietly kicked off the team? It's not cut and dry to me (but i'm out of my depth) like it would be if she was 6 months pregnant at the start of the season. So she's not "redshirting" unless Texas compliance is sure that it will. I'm not familiar with the details of the "pregnancy exception" (my wording) except that I believe it is for a year and it applies similar to the one for mission trips (which is up to two years) In practical terms, the athlete's eligibility clock is increased from five years to six. To qualify for it, I don't think the requirements are similar to the medical waiver. I believe it has it's own set of requirements. I would also think it doesn't require you to be in school during that time. Athletes on mission trips are not enrolled in school. I'm not concerned about it because I feel certain her status was already clear when she selected Texas as this doesn't appear to be a complicated process. If she qualified for the exception, she has three years left to play two. If she didn't qualify, she has two left to play two. I would lean heavily toward she qualified for it as the exception is likely for pregnancy & early months post-pregnancy and likely not dependent on your physical ability to play.
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