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Post by horns1 on Nov 7, 2024 11:16:05 GMT -5
as a Devin stan even i was surprised to see her start the 4th set Hopefully they are actually trying to develop her. “Don’t be hostile”
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Post by uofaGRAD on Nov 7, 2024 11:36:10 GMT -5
You know when they lost that 3rd set, PTSD set in haha. I've never seen Madi have so many bic kills in one match in a while. It was great to see. Jenna had 3 kills off her 2 handed push. It was comical because as a coach, I would be furious not to pick those up. I'm not bought in. I'm ready for Byrd or Helmer to be given a chance if she's not producing. The bench is ready. I was thinking it was because of the block for Devin subbing in for Rutherford but that's it. So happy the slide is back. We knew Mari and Ayden have great slides but not utilized. Helmers is injured again. Maybe there are specific rotations when Byrd could come in for Jenna in the front row; like simply for quick side out. No way Byrd is going to be better than Wenaas in serve receive or in digs. uofaGRAD it might be time for you to re-state what you did this summer about how important it is to have Wenaas on the court in regards to how it benefits Skinner hitting from the back row. yeah skinner isn’t freed up for the bic out of serve receive if she’s forced to pass so it’s either Wenaas passing + Skinner bic or Skinner passing + backups offense idk. you can’t have it both ways. it’s also just funny because I feel like Wenaas is playing the exact same as last season except passing better and defending middle back arguably better than Barnes did but everyone is still trying to bench her, when Swindle was an issue last season and is *worse* this season and everyone wants to start her
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Nov 7, 2024 11:50:14 GMT -5
Helmers is injured again. Maybe there are specific rotations when Byrd could come in for Jenna in the front row; like simply for quick side out. No way Byrd is going to be better than Wenaas in serve receive or in digs. uofaGRAD it might be time for you to re-state what you did this summer about how important it is to have Wenaas on the court in regards to how it benefits Skinner hitting from the back row. yeah skinner isn’t freed up for the bic out of serve receive if she’s forced to pass so it’s either Wenaas passing + Skinner bic or Skinner passing + backups offense idk. you can’t have it both ways. it’s also just funny because I feel like Wenaas is playing the exact same as last season except passing better and defending middle back arguably better than Barnes did but everyone is still trying to bench her, when Swindle was an issue last season and is *worse* this season and everyone wants to start her I'd like to see a BIC or two by Jenna. She's on the court, why not set her a couple and open up the court/ give Madi more space in the front? IIRC Jenna basically took over during the 2021 tournament match against Baylor, hitting from the back
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Post by omder on Nov 7, 2024 11:53:06 GMT -5
Maybe it’s time to come to the understanding that if Helmers or Byrd were a viable option over Jenna on either offense or passing, we would’ve seen them by now Clearly the staff feels that isn’t the case well that’s a coaching issue bc most of the 7 outsides wehave been here for over a year if not longer
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Nov 7, 2024 11:59:01 GMT -5
Maybe it’s time to come to the understanding that if Helmers or Byrd were a viable option over Jenna on either offense or passing, we would’ve seen them by now Clearly the staff feels that isn’t the case well that’s a coaching issue bc most of the 7 outsides wehave been here for over a year if not longer Are you just pretending that 3 of them haven't been injured /recovering from injury during that period
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Post by uofaGRAD on Nov 7, 2024 12:08:54 GMT -5
yeah skinner isn’t freed up for the bic out of serve receive if she’s forced to pass so it’s either Wenaas passing + Skinner bic or Skinner passing + backups offense idk. you can’t have it both ways. it’s also just funny because I feel like Wenaas is playing the exact same as last season except passing better and defending middle back arguably better than Barnes did but everyone is still trying to bench her, when Swindle was an issue last season and is *worse* this season and everyone wants to start her I'd like to see a BIC or two by Jenna. She's on the court, why not set her a couple and open up the court/ give Madi more space in the front? IIRC Jenna basically took over during the 2021 tournament match against Baylor, hitting from the back for sure in the rotation with two attackers front row
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Post by omder on Nov 7, 2024 12:15:15 GMT -5
well that’s a coaching issue bc most of the 7 outsides we have been here for over a year if not longer Are you just pretending that 3 of them haven't been injured /recovering from injury during that period barring the injuries of course but seeing the other outsides in action in spring and early season id definitely think someone would see the court, if even someone wasnt struggling. the fact that texas went straight to burning launestein’s redshirt is a big question mark. and if they thought this season was a regrouping year they are in for another one next year with 3 pins straight off the bench/freshmen.
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Post by texashorns on Nov 7, 2024 12:38:22 GMT -5
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Post by uofaGRAD on Nov 7, 2024 12:45:21 GMT -5
links not working for me, who is it?
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Post by horns1 on Nov 7, 2024 12:45:29 GMT -5
Are you just pretending that 3 of them haven't been injured /recovering from injury during that period barring the injuries of course but seeing the other outsides in action in spring and early season id definitely think someone would see the court, if even someone wasnt struggling. the fact that texas went straight to burning launestein’s redshirt is a big question mark. and if they thought this season was a regrouping year they are in for another one next year with 3 pins straight off the bench/freshmen. What does that even mean? Lauenstein didn't see the court until the sixth match of the season at Stanford. There was nothing "straight to" anything; no need to exaggerate and misrepresent what really happened. You can't be surprised that Lauenstein was first up off the bench ahead of inexperienced pin hitters.
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Post by babyhusker on Nov 7, 2024 12:45:46 GMT -5
Helmers is injured again. Maybe there are specific rotations when Byrd could come in for Jenna in the front row; like simply for quick side out. No way Byrd is going to be better than Wenaas in serve receive or in digs. uofaGRAD it might be time for you to re-state what you did this summer about how important it is to have Wenaas on the court in regards to how it benefits Skinner hitting from the back row. yeah skinner isn’t freed up for the bic out of serve receive if she’s forced to pass so it’s either Wenaas passing + Skinner bic or Skinner passing + backups offense idk. you can’t have it both ways. it’s also just funny because I feel like Wenaas is playing the exact same as last season except passing better and defending middle back arguably better than Barnes did but everyone is still trying to bench her, when Swindle was an issue last season and is *worse* this season and everyone wants to start her This, exactly. People are clearly desperate for some kind of solution, and the grass is always greener. Particularly when you have the tremendous successes of the past few years to compare. The key differences on this team are at setter and middle this year, and while it's impossible to bring the middles back, last year's setter is sitting right there and I understand the impulse to retrieve one's virtual pitchforks and insist she's the obvious solution. But unlike the more statistically questionable variables like Rutherford vs Kahahawai and Wenaas's offensive performance, the statistical differences between Carlson and Swindle are...not close. The eye test too.
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Post by storyteller on Nov 7, 2024 12:46:28 GMT -5
Are you just pretending that 3 of them haven't been injured /recovering from injury during that period barring the injuries of course but seeing the other outsides in action in spring and early season id definitely think someone would see the court, if even someone wasnt struggling. the fact that texas went straight to burning launestein’s redshirt is a big question mark. and if they thought this season was a regrouping year they are in for another one next year with 3 pins straight off the bench/freshmen. I don't think Lauenstein had a redshirt to burn. Wouldn't 2023 count as her redshirt season? Based on the pre-season scrimmages, it seemed pretty clear that she was 1st OH off the bench.
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Post by horns1 on Nov 7, 2024 12:50:13 GMT -5
well that’s a coaching issue bc most of the 7 outsides wehave been here for over a year if not longer Are you just pretending that 3 of them haven't been injured /recovering from injury during that period And, anyone thinking walk-on Kenna Miller is gonna beat out any of our scholarship starters is just kidding themselves. And, Tomkinson is left-handed; so, she's never gonna be a starter at the left pin.
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Post by horns1 on Nov 7, 2024 12:52:30 GMT -5
yeah skinner isn’t freed up for the bic out of serve receive if she’s forced to pass so it’s either Wenaas passing + Skinner bic or Skinner passing + backups offense idk. you can’t have it both ways. it’s also just funny because I feel like Wenaas is playing the exact same as last season except passing better and defending middle back arguably better than Barnes did but everyone is still trying to bench her, when Swindle was an issue last season and is *worse* this season and everyone wants to start her This, exactly. People are clearly desperate for some kind of solution, and the grass is always greener. Particularly when you have the tremendous successes of the past few years to compare. The key differences on this team are at setter and middle this year, and while it's impossible to bring the middles back, last year's setter is sitting right there and I understand the impulse to retrieve one's virtual pitchforks and insist she's the obvious solution. But unlike the more statistically questionable variables like Rutherford vs Kahahawai and Wenaas's offensive performance, the statistical differences between Carlson and Swindle are...not close. The eye test too. And, not having a second DS with 4 years collegiate experience as a Libero like Carissa Barnes. Wenaas is doing her best to fill that void; but, it's not the same.
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Post by babyhusker on Nov 7, 2024 12:55:48 GMT -5
This, exactly. People are clearly desperate for some kind of solution, and the grass is always greener. Particularly when you have the tremendous successes of the past few years to compare. The key differences on this team are at setter and middle this year, and while it's impossible to bring the middles back, last year's setter is sitting right there and I understand the impulse to retrieve one's virtual pitchforks and insist she's the obvious solution. But unlike the more statistically questionable variables like Rutherford vs Kahahawai and Wenaas's offensive performance, the statistical differences between Carlson and Swindle are...not close. The eye test too. And, not having a second DS with 4 years collegiate experience as a Libero like Carissa Barnes. Wenaas is doing her best to fill that void; but, it's not the same. That is, of course, a tremendous factor. I meant that in the broader context of Instagram commenters demanding Swindle start, the back row change probably isn't something they're considering as much. I think most of us overlooked Barnes' impact to be honest, but it's darn clear now
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