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Post by tomclen on Mar 21, 2024 6:25:53 GMT -5
I'll switch to old-man mode for a moment and hope not to get too political, but for a college football coach to earn $87,000,000 over eight years says "something" about America and capitalism. And I don't think it says anything that's good. Especially when you think about the state of New York cutting $800M from human services while doling out $800M for a new stadium for the Buffalo Bills, a team owned by a billionaire.
But I digress.
I hope whoever UW hires as a new AD can also focus on the so-called non-revenue sports and help push UW volleyball to the next level in play and fan support. IMO, UW has lost its VB edge the past few years with regard to wins and attendance. You can blame some of that on the imploding PAC, but not all.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Mar 21, 2024 11:01:52 GMT -5
I said "we're at a disadvantage when it comes to matching 'athletic' salaries," not because I think we should throw money at the issue, but because we're getting "Pac-12 money," and will continue to get "Pac-12 money" in the Big Ten for some time, to fund our athletics. Texas, Florida, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Minnesota, USC, and UCLA are getting twice the money than we are. Oregon, which will also get half-money, has Phil McKnight's money. Oregon doesn’t pay coaches exorbitantly. Uncle Phil’s money primarily goes to facilities and institutional things. Which is where UW tends to fall short, except for Football. For instance, UW Volleyball doesn't have its own lockerroom/meeting space, but has to share with other sports. Softball does, and has an indoor "performance center," but its stadium is very undersized (1,500 seats) relative to the demand for tickets (Jane Sanders Stadium has 2,500 seats). UW, like Oregon, does take pride in not taking any "state" money, nor does it "dun" the student body, to fund athletics. OSU and WSU, however...
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Post by luckydawg on Mar 21, 2024 13:14:44 GMT -5
Oregon doesn’t pay coaches exorbitantly. Uncle Phil’s money primarily goes to facilities and institutional things. Which is where UW tends to fall short, except for Football. For instance, UW Volleyball doesn't have its own lockerroom/meeting space, but has to share with other sports. Softball does, and has an indoor "performance center," but its stadium is very undersized (1,500 seats) relative to the demand for tickets (Jane Sanders Stadium has 2,500 seats). UW, like Oregon, does take pride in not taking any "state" money, nor does it "dun" the student body, to fund athletics. OSU and WSU, however... They have had their own locker room and team room for two decades, and just did a remodel with player input. They do share the film room.
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Post by ay2013 on Mar 21, 2024 13:44:32 GMT -5
I'll switch to old-man mode for a moment and hope not to get too political, but for a college football coach to earn $87,000,000 over eight years says "something" about America and capitalism. And I don't think it says anything that's good. Especially when you think about the state of New York cutting $800M from human services while doling out $800M for a new stadium for the Buffalo Bills, a team owned by a billionaire. But I digress. No you are absolutely right. It does say something that a state (Alabama) with such poverty, poor education, poor access to healthcare etc. can find $87 million dollars for a college football coach. The cheapo A's managed to cozy up to the Governor and swiftly swindle 300+ million from the Nevada tax payers over the course of a couple weeks, meanwhile that same governor said there was no more money for more education spending in a state that ranks somewhere near last in the country. It doesn't matter if it's a Republican or a Democrat, the good ole boys club and their sports is just a stain on our country. Our priorities as a nation are god awful, and what's crazier is that a lot of these sports fans somehow think they are exceptional in the world.... (biggest eyeroll ever).
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Post by luckydawg on Mar 21, 2024 13:57:50 GMT -5
I'll switch to old-man mode for a moment and hope not to get too political, but for a college football coach to earn $87,000,000 over eight years says "something" about America and capitalism. And I don't think it says anything that's good. Especially when you think about the state of New York cutting $800M from human services while doling out $800M for a new stadium for the Buffalo Bills, a team owned by a billionaire. But I digress. No you are absolutely right. It does say something that a state (Alabama) with such poverty, poor education, poor access to healthcare etc. can find $87 million dollars for a college football coach. The cheapo A's managed to cozy up to the Governor and swiftly swindle 300+ million from the Nevada tax payers over the course of a couple weeks, meanwhile that same governor said there was no more money for more education spending in a state that ranks somewhere near last in the country. It doesn't matter if it's a Republican or a Democrat, the good ole boys club and their sports is just a stain on our country. Our priorities as a nation are god awful, and what's crazier is that a lot of these sports fans somehow think they are exceptional in the world.... (biggest eyeroll ever). For better or worse, the UW athletic department is essentially self-sustaining. This includes paying the full tuition of every scholarship athlete, with a few Title IX waivers
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Post by redbeard2008 on Mar 21, 2024 14:46:09 GMT -5
Which is where UW tends to fall short, except for Football. For instance, UW Volleyball doesn't have its own lockerroom/meeting space, but has to share with other sports. Softball does, and has an indoor "performance center," but its stadium is very undersized (1,500 seats) relative to the demand for tickets (Jane Sanders Stadium has 2,500 seats). UW, like Oregon, does take pride in not taking any "state" money, nor does it "dun" the student body, to fund athletics. OSU and WSU, however... They have had their own locker room and team room for two decades, and just did a remodel with player input. They do share the film room. Do you have a link to a photo or video? I searched and found year-round "branded" locker rooms only for football, men's basketball, women's basketball, baseball, and softball. Women's basketball got theirs in 2018, I believe. Men's and women's rowing have their own facilities. But volleyball or other sports? Nada. No news releases. Nothing.
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Post by luckydawg on Mar 21, 2024 15:18:27 GMT -5
They have had their own locker room and team room for two decades, and just did a remodel with player input. They do share the film room. Do you have a link to a photo or video? I searched and found year-round "branded" locker rooms only for football, men's basketball, women's basketball, baseball, and softball. Women's basketball got theirs in 2018, I believe. Men's and women's rowing have their own facilities. But volleyball or other sports? Nada. No news releases. Nothing. I don't have any team room pics, but have been in it a few times. Couches, bean bags, snack area, tributes to past All Americans, etc. Northwest corner of Hec Ed main floor.
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Post by johnnyo on Mar 21, 2024 16:05:30 GMT -5
I saw the locker room and team room in a meet the team event several years ago. Not a figment of my imagination
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 21, 2024 16:33:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I remember Jenna Hagglund doing a video walkthrough of it, and had to have been about 15 years ago now.
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Post by DaDawgFather on Mar 21, 2024 17:07:34 GMT -5
Oregon doesn’t pay coaches exorbitantly. Uncle Phil’s money primarily goes to facilities and institutional things. Which is where UW tends to fall short, except for Football. For instance, UW Volleyball doesn't have its own lockerroom/meeting space, but has to share with other sports. Softball does, and has an indoor "performance center," but its stadium is very undersized (1,500 seats) relative to the demand for tickets (Jane Sanders Stadium has 2,500 seats). UW, like Oregon, does take pride in not taking any "state" money, nor does it "dun" the student body, to fund athletics. OSU and WSU, however... They do share a film room with pseudo theater style seating. They have had their own locker room, shower area and social area kind of like a living room for years.
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Post by tomclen on Mar 26, 2024 14:24:45 GMT -5
This strikes me as a pretty good move.
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Post by ay2013 on Mar 26, 2024 14:33:10 GMT -5
It's obvious we were going to poach someone rather than hire from within / think outside the box because it's the easy thing to do, but poaching from WSU?.... ugh, I just don't care for the optics. Hope the best for him though!
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Post by alwayslearning on Mar 26, 2024 18:27:19 GMT -5
Jon Wilner in the Seattle Times says it is a "home run" for UW and a "gut punch" for WSU. Says that UW should have hired Chun instead of Dannen. By all appearances, Chun seems to be a very good AD. It's been a crazy year of change at UW with more change to come (i.e., new conference).
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Post by johnnyo on Mar 26, 2024 23:57:30 GMT -5
He also worked at Ohio State for 15 years so knows the new league.
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Post by twkpwrbtmlib on Apr 18, 2024 15:38:19 GMT -5
hope you all have a very maria bogomolova day!
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