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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 18:09:27 GMT -5
Dispicable and I don’t wanna hear them crying when they are a 1 bid conference like they should be going forward.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 1, 2023 18:10:05 GMT -5
75-53 (-22)
75-55 (-20)
75-57 (-18)
97-71 (-26)
Q.E.D.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 1, 2023 18:10:17 GMT -5
I don’t wanna hear them crying when they are a 1 bid conference like they should be going forward. LOL. The Committee will not adjust. RPI isn't going anywhere. |
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Post by trojansc on Dec 1, 2023 18:13:57 GMT -5
I still think the reason for changing from RPI is something we already know (we didn't need this tournament to tell us this).
But using tournament results scares me. Example: Ball State (MAC) in 2021 beat Michigan in the NCAA Tournament. Could that have played in the committee's decision to make the MAC a 2-bid league in 2022? What about this year - Western Michigan beats Auburn, could that play a role in next year's decision?
I truly don't believe it did (and I'm not sure this will either).
But still, we know RPI not only isn't predictive, but it doesn't even measure the best teams in terms of pure W/L results as it is.
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Post by hipsterfilth on Dec 1, 2023 18:15:56 GMT -5
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 1, 2023 18:17:07 GMT -5
I still think the reason for changing from RPI is something we already know (we didn't need this tournament to tell us this). But using tournament results scares me. Example: Ball State (MAC) in 2021 beat Michigan in the NCAA Tournament. Could that have played in the committee's decision to make the MAC a 2-bid league in 2022? What about this year - Western Michigan beats Auburn, could that play a role in next year's decision? I truly don't believe it did (and I'm not sure this will either). But still, we know RPI not only isn't predictive, but it doesn't even measure the best teams in terms of pure W/L results as it is. That's fair. But when there are structural biases that lead to persistent over-bids and overseeds, the Committee should understand the RPI ranking system and how those structural biases may present themselves - and then adjust for them. Like, the Committee should understand how a 16-game conference schedule inflates RPI. The Committee should be able to spot a resume with a schedule that is RPI gamed. |
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Post by bbg95 on Dec 1, 2023 18:17:27 GMT -5
I hope members of the so called committee are watching to see how much of a disservice they did to the game by their choices. Meh, per their criteria, I only think they messed up one pick, and that team hasn't played yet. The NCAA is to blame if one has an issue with Sun Belt selections - not the committee. I'm also blaming those superior teams who lost to Sun Belt, Auburn, etc. competition that allowed them to get into position if they truly are inferior. RPI is also the bigger issue here. Correct. And I couldn't have less sympathy toward fans of P5 conferences complaining about midmajors gaming RPI given the enormous advantages the P5s have. I dislike RPI and wish it was replaced by something like NET in basketball. But until that happens, it's part of a coach's job to try to game it. |
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Post by photos1 on Dec 2, 2023 0:11:31 GMT -5
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Post by photos1 on Dec 2, 2023 0:11:31 GMT -5
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Post by minnley on Dec 2, 2023 0:35:26 GMT -5
The Sun Belt might be known as The Fun Belt, but it is also The None Belt.
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Post by raian13 on Dec 2, 2023 0:37:49 GMT -5
The Sun Belt might be known as The Fun Belt, but it is also The None Belt. Or The Gone Belt |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 2, 2023 7:59:41 GMT -5
The Sun Belt might be known as The Fun Belt, but it is also The None Belt. Or The Gone Belt The Done Belt |
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Post by ugopher on Dec 2, 2023 8:06:25 GMT -5
I still think the reason for changing from RPI is something we already know (we didn't need this tournament to tell us this). But using tournament results scares me. Example: Ball State (MAC) in 2021 beat Michigan in the NCAA Tournament. Could that have played in the committee's decision to make the MAC a 2-bid league in 2022? What about this year - Western Michigan beats Auburn, could that play a role in next year's decision? I truly don't believe it did (and I'm not sure this will either). But still, we know RPI not only isn't predictive, but it doesn't even measure the best teams in terms of pure W/L results as it is. Western Michigan/Auburn - instead of focusing on WMU, maybe ask why the SEC received 8 bids? |
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Post by maigrey on Dec 2, 2023 8:39:00 GMT -5
Looks like the Sun Belt should win ~1 match by VT predictions. I’m gonna put my money on Coastal for the 1. Then Texas State, then JMU. I just haven’t been thrilled with JMU’s level of play lately. If Soboleski is OK, South Alabama stands a chance. well, this didn't age well... 👀 |
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Post by maigrey on Dec 2, 2023 8:41:19 GMT -5
The Sun Belt might be known as The Fun Belt, but it is also The None Belt. Or The Gone Belt Yes, but that doesn't rhyme 🤣 |
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