bluepenquin
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Post by bluepenquin on Dec 12, 2023 9:36:39 GMT -5
oh yikes… what is going on in Waco Okay the Carlson transfer is concerning but Simpson and Dacosta make sense. Simpson has been beaten out for a spot by McGhee, Stowers, and Murphy now. Dacosta was only going to be a DS next season, and even that wasn't a guarantee. She would be the next in line for libero her senior season, but would be battling like 6 other DS's for that spot. There was no chance she would be playing front row either. So she is either seeking a starting libero position or a chance to play 6-rotations. Carlson and Dacosta are pretty close so them being a package deal would make sense. Even with these transfers out, Baylor's lineup still looks okay. If Kreck can run the show, they should be fine. Yep - I just don't see much of a problem here. Yes - they have the uncertainty of Carlson to Kreck, but Kreck should be good. This is still a T25 team that is young and talented.
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Post by horns1 on Dec 12, 2023 9:46:55 GMT -5
Okay the Carlson transfer is concerning but Simpson and Dacosta make sense. Simpson has been beaten out for a spot by McGhee, Stowers, and Murphy now. Dacosta was only going to be a DS next season, and even that wasn't a guarantee. She would be the next in line for libero her senior season, but would be battling like 6 other DS's for that spot. There was no chance she would be playing front row either. So she is either seeking a starting libero position or a chance to play 6-rotations. Carlson and Dacosta are pretty close so them being a package deal would make sense. Even with these transfers out, Baylor's lineup still looks okay. If Kreck can run the show, they should be fine. Yep - I just don't see much of a problem here. Yes - they have the uncertainty of Carlson to Kreck, but Kreck should be good. This is still a T25 team that is young and talented. I thought Baylor was going to be a Top 25 this season, but the results ended up suggesting otherwise, especially late in the season. Now they are losing a lot of experience; so, I can't say they'll be a Top 25 team next season until the 2024 roster is finalized.
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Post by bounce22 on Dec 12, 2023 10:01:35 GMT -5
Basically the portal lesson for everyone who isn’t Nebraska, Texas Or Wisconsin is quite simple …. you can’t have an average season or two (underachieve?) and expect athletes who have dreamed of a Natty to stay. Should not be that way and I completely agree the portal helps those who have made a choice that was incorrect for them (more so on levels that aren’t vball related). However, it seems that our world is becoming more of an “instant this” kind of thing rather than fight hard for as long as it takes. Which I find odd actually because these ladies definitely fought up through club. C’est la vie … kill or be killed
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Post by tarheellife on Dec 12, 2023 10:06:03 GMT -5
Basically the portal lesson for everyone who isn’t Nebraska, Texas Or Wisconsin is quite simple …. you can’t have an average season or two (underachieve?) and expect athletes who have dreamed of a Natty to stay. Should not be that way and I completely agree the portal helps those who have made a choice that was incorrect for them (more so on levels that aren’t vball related). However, it seems that our world is becoming more of an “instant this” kind of thing rather than fight hard for as long as it takes. Which I find odd actually because these ladies definitely fought up through club. C’est la vie … kill or be killed IMO NCAA made the biggest mistake when they extended eligibility. As with anything else the coaches went with where the incentive is. Incentive being having a 23 year old play instead of an 18 year old. 2021, 2022, and partially 2023 classes have born the brunt of this mistake. So obviously they will be transferring a lot. I don’t think those ladies are not fighters and are on “instant this” train. Everyone is playing the cards they were dealt, coaches and players.
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Post by sptimes2 on Dec 12, 2023 10:11:41 GMT -5
Basically the portal lesson for everyone who isn’t Nebraska, Texas Or Wisconsin is quite simple …. you can’t have an average season or two (underachieve?) and expect athletes who have dreamed of a Natty to stay. Should not be that way and I completely agree the portal helps those who have made a choice that was incorrect for them (more so on levels that aren’t vball related). However, it seems that our world is becoming more of an “instant this” kind of thing rather than fight hard for as long as it takes. Which I find odd actually because these ladies definitely fought up through club. C’est la vie … kill or be killed IMO NCAA made the biggest mistake when they extended eligibility. As with anything else the coaches went with where the incentive is. Incentive being having a 23 year old play instead of an 18 year old. 2021, 2022, and partially 2023 classes have born the brunt of this mistake. So obviously they will be transferring a lot. I don’t think those ladies are not fighters and are on “instant this” train. Everyone is playing the cards they were dealt, coaches and players. You're correct, but I think we can't paint everyone with the same brush. Some SAs got screwed by the extended eligibility. Some SAs are looking for the instant championship. Some SAs had a bad culture or coach relationship. Some SAs...<fill in multiple other reasons>
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Post by bounce22 on Dec 12, 2023 10:18:27 GMT -5
Basically the portal lesson for everyone who isn’t Nebraska, Texas Or Wisconsin is quite simple …. you can’t have an average season or two (underachieve?) and expect athletes who have dreamed of a Natty to stay. Should not be that way and I completely agree the portal helps those who have made a choice that was incorrect for them (more so on levels that aren’t vball related). However, it seems that our world is becoming more of an “instant this” kind of thing rather than fight hard for as long as it takes. Which I find odd actually because these ladies definitely fought up through club. C’est la vie … kill or be killed IMO NCAA made the biggest mistake when they extended eligibility. As with anything else the coaches went with where the incentive is. Incentive being having a 23 year old play instead of an 18 year old. 2021, 2022, and partially 2023 classes have born the brunt of this mistake. So obviously they will be transferring a lot. I don’t think those ladies are not fighters and are on “instant this” train. Everyone is playing the cards they were dealt, coaches and players. Fair point. We’ll have to wait for a couple of years I guess to see what unfolds after these cards have been played. I love that the athletes have more control now for sure. There’s always something about every rule that is good and maybe not so good. Every player goes somewhere thinking they’ll make a difference and, when maybe the bloom is off that rose, they ponder (the very best players and the same for role players). It still doesn’t change the reality for the Ryan McGuyres of the world though. Most programs who consider themselves competitive don’t have the luxury of having a bad season with no potential for residual damage. Kill or be killed.
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Post by lotstodo2023 on Dec 12, 2023 10:18:34 GMT -5
Do we think a lot of these transfers move in the spring vs summer/fall? I would believe that is the intention and their old schools schollys would be gone for spring right?
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Post by knapplc on Dec 12, 2023 10:18:35 GMT -5
Everyone is playing the cards they were dealt, coaches and players. Agreed, which is why I won't criticize the players who transfer.
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Post by horns1 on Dec 12, 2023 10:26:31 GMT -5
I know I'm guilty of not always staying on topic, but this thread is for "Transfer tea", not for complaining about the existence of transfer portal, extended eligibility, how certain coaches use the portal, etc.
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Post by tarheellife on Dec 12, 2023 10:32:00 GMT -5
Do we think a lot of these transfers move in the spring vs summer/fall? I would believe that is the intention and their old schools schollys would be gone for spring right? Their scholarships are gone as soon as they enter the portal. Some coaches may offer them to keep their scholarships for the spring in hope they stay and reconsider transferring. I’m curious though what schools have spring scholarships except the ones that have people transferring out now.
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Post by tarheellife on Dec 12, 2023 10:34:53 GMT -5
I know I'm guilty of not always staying on topic, but this thread is for "Transfer tea", not for complaining about the existence of transfer portal, extended eligibility, how certain coaches use the portal, etc. It’s all transfer tea… but I get you. Offer some hot tea and we’ll be on the topic and won’t need to fill the empty time
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Post by hookem1 on Dec 12, 2023 10:36:52 GMT -5
Razorbacks are HUNTING for pins (as they should be). They definitely need to strike the transfer portal while their iron of success is hot.
Recently followed Martin, Kelley, Lovett, Dacosta, Warren, Tabron, Ndiaye, Muoneke.
Would love to see Dacosta go there and play as a six rotation OH!
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Post by longhorn9214 on Dec 12, 2023 10:39:42 GMT -5
Razorbacks are HUNTING for pins (as they should be). They definitely need to strike the transfer portal while their iron of success is hot. Recently followed Martin, Kelley, Lovett, Dacosta, Warren, Tabron, Ndiaye, Muoneke. Would love to see Dacosta go there and play as a six rotation OH! Was Dakosta a terminal pin in club? I don't know much about her since I've only seen her as a back row specialist.
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Post by longhorn9214 on Dec 12, 2023 10:40:00 GMT -5
Razorbacks are HUNTING for pins (as they should be). They definitely need to strike the transfer portal while their iron of success is hot. Recently followed Martin, Kelley, Lovett, Dacosta, Warren, Tabron, Ndiaye, Muoneke. Would love to see Dacosta go there and play as a six rotation OH! Was Dakosta a terminal pin in club? I don't know much about her since I've only seen her as a back row specialist. DACOSTA
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Post by tarheellife on Dec 12, 2023 10:41:35 GMT -5
Razorbacks are HUNTING for pins (as they should be). They definitely need to strike the transfer portal while their iron of success is hot. Recently followed Martin, Kelley, Lovett, Dacosta, Warren, Tabron, Ndiaye, Muoneke. Would love to see Dacosta go there and play as a six rotation OH! Romani Thurman is rumored to be going there from UNC. Her dad played basketball there and won the chip. I heard he works there too so she prolly doesn’t need scholy to pay for it as it’s likely free for her
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