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Post by fortheloveofvb on Dec 23, 2023 8:34:39 GMT -5
Less on a volleyball roster, but also a lot fewer scholarship redshirts in volleyball. The point is more that it can happen and has happened. With the circumstances of that match and I'm sure a lot of feel good on the Nebraska side, I could see Cook momentarily forgetting. Or perhaps Jurevicius asked him to go in and in the euphoria of the moment, relented and decided to burn the shirt. But only a handful know what exactly happened in that moment and leading up to the match and I don't think any of them are posting here. I think my point is that it is very difficult to believe the narrative some are pushing that Cook had not discussed redshirting with her prior to that match. Now at that point likely no firm decision had been made because it was just too early in the season to likely make a definitive decision. So it would also be understandable if Jurevicius still thought that she might not redshirt. And it would be natural to be disappointed at not playing in that match even if she knew there was a good chance that she would redshirt this year. Players want to play and that's natural. Situations like this are also one of the reasons that the football coaches pushed to change their redshirt rule. Particularly at this level, the players all come in as a star or at least a very good player in high school that didn't sit on the bench. Not playing much is a difficult adjustment for most. Not playing at all can be an even greater adjustment. During the discussion on changing their rule, football coaches mentioned that one of their greatest challenges was keeping redshirts from "checking out" mentally at some part of the season and keeping them fully engaged. I've really been surprised that coaches in no other sport have pushed for a change in their redshirt rule to allow redshirts to play some without burning their shirt. I suspect Cook would have loved to had some flexibility in the rule at that stadium match. I don’t think it’s the narrative ‘some are pushing’. I think it’s the narrative CJ and her family are pushing. It comes down to the version of the story that you believe. The truth probably lies in the middle: she was told redshirt was a possibility but never confirmed. When she saw everyone else play the historic fourth match, it clicked that the redshirt had then been confirmed for her. That’s the theory I’m going with, and while I can both sides this thing, I think the responsibility to communicate effectively lies with the adults. That’s why the ‘she should have known’ comment was a little bit odd. Many decisions are made at Nebraska without discussing it with the player. I don’t believe the staff believes they have to discuss coaching decisions with players. So, often times decisions are made without player input and the player is the last to find out. IMO, I don’t think redshirting her was ever a thought or ever discussed until after she got on campus and mapped out her coursework to graduation. When Cook realized she was going to be there 5 years, HE decided she would redshirt without telling her of course. HE thought that would be best for the program without considering whether she thought it was best for her. She wanted to compete for a starting position and that opportunity was taken away from her simply because her academics would take 5 years. They left her and her family feeling betrayed.
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Post by tarheellife on Dec 23, 2023 9:04:33 GMT -5
y’all better go get some! they have to get some assistant coaches first considering there are two postings for assistant coaches @ MN Can anyone send the postings accidentally to our coaches before Alabama fans see this?!
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Post by slxpress on Dec 23, 2023 9:15:57 GMT -5
And why do you say Harper is a poison personality? What’s the tea on her? There is no tea, smh. They are both great kids and great athletes. This is a narrative that popped up after the post-match interview. It is completely unfounded, unsupported with any evidence. That’s not completely true. It’s a narrative that has popped up about Murray before. Which doesn’t make it any more true. Her teammates obviously love her. Not sure why anything else should matter, to us or to her.
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Post by b1gvb23 on Dec 23, 2023 9:20:38 GMT -5
Apologies if already posted. She’ll have to sit out a year because it’s not a grad transfer, correct?
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Post by jeepers on Dec 23, 2023 9:28:07 GMT -5
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Post by kidsker7 on Dec 23, 2023 9:37:29 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s the narrative ‘some are pushing’. I think it’s the narrative CJ and her family are pushing. It comes down to the version of the story that you believe. The truth probably lies in the middle: she was told redshirt was a possibility but never confirmed. When she saw everyone else play the historic fourth match, it clicked that the redshirt had then been confirmed for her. That’s the theory I’m going with, and while I can both sides this thing, I think the responsibility to communicate effectively lies with the adults. That’s why the ‘she should have known’ comment was a little bit odd. Many decisions are made at Nebraska without discussing it with the player. I don’t believe the staff believes they have to discuss coaching decisions with players. So, often times decisions are made without player input and the player is the last to find out. IMO, I don’t think redshirting her was ever a thought or ever discussed until after she got on campus and mapped out her coursework to graduation. When Cook realized she was going to be there 5 years, HE decided she would redshirt without telling her of course. HE thought that would be best for the program without considering whether she thought it was best for her. She wanted to compete for a starting position and that opportunity was taken away from her simply because her academics would take 5 years. They left her and her family feeling betrayed. Another theory and surprise, Cook is the bad guy and Caroline and family are victims. Caroline's opportunity to compete for a starting position was taken away by Merritt Beason being much better and not getting injured. If she was betrayed by anyone, it was anyone telling her to give up her redshirt year for a few meaningless plays during the season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 9:54:17 GMT -5
Maybe it’s splitting hairs for you, but the difference is that at OH2, Nebraska has Krause and Batenhorst as experienced options, while Wisconsin only has Orzol (TTA having exhausted eligibility). Sheff says Robinson can play there. When did he say that?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 10:05:10 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s the narrative ‘some are pushing’. I think it’s the narrative CJ and her family are pushing. It comes down to the version of the story that you believe. The truth probably lies in the middle: she was told redshirt was a possibility but never confirmed. When she saw everyone else play the historic fourth match, it clicked that the redshirt had then been confirmed for her. That’s the theory I’m going with, and while I can both sides this thing, I think the responsibility to communicate effectively lies with the adults. That’s why the ‘she should have known’ comment was a little bit odd. Many decisions are made at Nebraska without discussing it with the player. I don’t believe the staff believes they have to discuss coaching decisions with players. So, often times decisions are made without player input and the player is the last to find out. IMO, I don’t think redshirting her was ever a thought or ever discussed until after she got on campus and mapped out her coursework to graduation. When Cook realized she was going to be there 5 years, HE decided she would redshirt without telling her of course. HE thought that would be best for the program without considering whether she thought it was best for her. She wanted to compete for a starting position and that opportunity was taken away from her simply because her academics would take 5 years. They left her and her family feeling betrayed. Bullsh*t. Coaches get paid to win. They play the best players. If a player doesn’t get in the game its because she isn’t the best option.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 10:05:58 GMT -5
Many decisions are made at Nebraska without discussing it with the player. I don’t believe the staff believes they have to discuss coaching decisions with players. So, often times decisions are made without player input and the player is the last to find out. IMO, I don’t think redshirting her was ever a thought or ever discussed until after she got on campus and mapped out her coursework to graduation. When Cook realized she was going to be there 5 years, HE decided she would redshirt without telling her of course. HE thought that would be best for the program without considering whether she thought it was best for her. She wanted to compete for a starting position and that opportunity was taken away from her simply because her academics would take 5 years. They left her and her family feeling betrayed. Another theory and surprise, Cook is the bad guy and Caroline and family are victims. Caroline's opportunity to compete for a starting position was taken away by Merritt Beason being much better and not getting injured. If she was betrayed by anyone, it was anyone telling her to give up her redshirt year for a few meaningless plays during the season. Someone with sense.
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Post by fortheloveofvb on Dec 23, 2023 10:09:14 GMT -5
Many decisions are made at Nebraska without discussing it with the player. I don’t believe the staff believes they have to discuss coaching decisions with players. So, often times decisions are made without player input and the player is the last to find out. IMO, I don’t think redshirting her was ever a thought or ever discussed until after she got on campus and mapped out her coursework to graduation. When Cook realized she was going to be there 5 years, HE decided she would redshirt without telling her of course. HE thought that would be best for the program without considering whether she thought it was best for her. She wanted to compete for a starting position and that opportunity was taken away from her simply because her academics would take 5 years. They left her and her family feeling betrayed. Bullsh*t. Coaches get paid to win. They play the best players. If a player doesn’t get in the game its because she isn’t the best option. You make a point that I don’t disagree with. It’s just your point isn’t related to my post… whether she knew she was being redshirted and the way the redshirt was handled.
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Post by fortheloveofvb on Dec 23, 2023 10:13:09 GMT -5
Another theory and surprise, Cook is the bad guy and Caroline and family are victims. Caroline's opportunity to compete for a starting position was taken away by Merritt Beason being much better and not getting injured. If she was betrayed by anyone, it was anyone telling her to give up her redshirt year for a few meaningless plays during the season. Someone with sense. You guys keep saying Cook is the bad guy when no one else is saying that. His communication skills are lacking. Lack of communication leads to misunderstandings that lead to a lack of trust.
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Post by redcard🏐 on Dec 23, 2023 10:14:31 GMT -5
I thought knapplc was done with his secret code messages. C'mon. I didn't even go back ten pages and I didn't even quote all the Nebraska references. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I assumed you were an adult……my bad🙄
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Post by fortheloveofvb on Dec 23, 2023 10:15:12 GMT -5
You guys keep saying Cook is the bad guy when no one else is saying that. His communication skills are lacking. Lack of communication leads to misunderstandings that lead to a lack of trust. Well some do say he is the bad guy …. I think his communication skills are lacking and that leads to misunderstandings.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 10:52:10 GMT -5
Bullsh*t. Coaches get paid to win. They play the best players. If a player doesn’t get in the game its because she isn’t the best option. You make a point that I don’t disagree with. It’s just your point isn’t related to my post… whether she knew she was being redshirted and the way the redshirt was handled. Redshirts are given when a player doesn’t play for a season. No one has any idea what was discussed. No one has any idea if a player actually listened, which is often the case of miscommunication. The worst scenario is playing a player for a few meaningless sets and losing the season. Unless that season was a players last eligible season, that is a scenario to hammer a coach.
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Post by vbjustice on Dec 23, 2023 11:39:40 GMT -5
Not being facetious but how is it done? Do you list all 3 or 4 colleges you transferred to on your CV / resume? Or just the one you get your degree from?
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