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Post by minnley on Dec 28, 2023 10:15:22 GMT -5
Yes I wonder what happened. Did JCook swoop in with more NIL money 🤣🤣🤣🤣 100% kidding don't at me Texas has some holes to fill on its 3rd team.
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Post by Longhorn20 on Dec 28, 2023 10:23:12 GMT -5
Did JCook swoop in with more NIL money 🤣🤣🤣🤣 100% kidding don't at me Texas has some holes to fill on its 3rd team. You joke, but I’m still holding out some hope that Morris wants to come home😂
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Post by chibadgerfan on Dec 28, 2023 10:29:25 GMT -5
At this point, I hope TL stays at Minny or goes to WI. I really don't think Nebraska is a good fit for her, or for them. She's not a 6ro player. Her body language on the court at times last year was not good. I'd rather Cook go after MB depth in the portal. Definitely taking too long. Her bargaining power weakens as time goes on. I agree Nebraska not a good fit since they will already have four OHs in 2024, awesome back row players, and a need to bolster MB and RS. TL joining may simply cause turmoil there with little gain. Probably not good for TL to stay at Minnesota either, as her position there has weakened due to entering the portal in the first place. She’s probably best off transferring to Wisconsin. Any other destination makes her situation worse than not having entered the portal, unless there is a NIL factor.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2023 10:32:37 GMT -5
At this point, I hope TL stays at Minny or goes to WI. I really don't think Nebraska is a good fit for her, or for them. She's not a 6ro player. Her body language on the court at times last year was not good. I'd rather Cook go after MB depth in the portal. Definitely taking too long. Her bargaining power weakens as time goes on. I agree Nebraska not a good fit since they will already have four OHs in 2024, awesome back row players, and a need to bolster MB and RS. TL joining may simply cause turmoil there with little gain. Probably not good for TL to stay at Minnesota either, as her position there has weakened due to entering the portal in the first place. She’s probably best off transferring to Wisconsin. Any other destination makes her situation worse than not having entered the portal, unless there is a NIL factor. I think for the big name schools her bargining power is already gone. Hey I know I would never want her with my team even if available. I like what we have and I want them to create their own thing together as they grow but I am interested to see the end result with her. Maggie on the other hand I would love to get and then maybe a backup setter in round 2 when players move again
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Post by bballin on Dec 28, 2023 11:01:27 GMT -5
Yes I wonder what happened. Did JCook swoop in with more NIL money 🤣🤣🤣🤣 100% kidding don't at me Landfair likely Nebraska bound
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Post by allballs on Dec 28, 2023 11:04:30 GMT -5
I think I like what someone said about her being more about the family oriented, loving atmosphere that she believes she’ll get at Texas and maybe that was the REAL tea at Nebraska? Maybe her unexpected start to her family wasn’t well received my the Husker staff and that was more of the reason why they moved on than anything else? Just speculating though… In Whitney's announcement to enter the transfer portal she said she quit the team at the end of the 22 season before she knew she was pregnant. Her stated reason for leaving was disrespect for Coach Cook and conflicts with her commitment to family during the holidays. My guess: NE played 3 home games from 11/20/22 to 11/26/22. Suspect this was the immediate time frame that WL wanted to spend more time with her family at Thansgiving. This seemed reasonable for her, as her family is in Lincoln or Wahoo. Not so reasonable from Cook's perspective who is trying to rebuild his team after losing team captain Kenzie Knuckles to an ACL injury just before the 12/20 match. Also if this scenario is true (WL wanted more time with family over Thanksgiving) there was likely a fairness issue, if Whitney gets time off, other players should too. Two sides of a conflict, as always. I suspect the seeds of conflict go back to the 2021 recruiting process. Four players were teammates with USA VB: Batenhorst (OH), Krause (OH), Orr (S) and Rodriguez (L). These four players were offered 4 year scholarships and committed shortly thereafter. NE also recruited Gray (MB) and WL (OH) as walk-ons. Gray walked on, but left the team due to post-covid medical issues. Ultimately WL was offered a scholarship and committed to NE. At that time she stated she would not have committed to NE had a scholarship not been offered. An expression of frustration on her part over her recruitment process with NE? Seemed likely to me at the time. Note the 21 class had 3 OH's on scholarship. WL didn't get much playing time in 21, but won the OPP starting spot in 22, shifting Krause from OPP to OH. Did WL prefer OH? Did she feel she was a better OH than Krause and Batenhorst? A case can be made for this. A case can also be made that NE was stronger with WL at OPP and Krause at OH, and vice versa. NE rotation at the time had WL taking one rotation at OH and 2 at OPP. Vice versa for Krause. Krause preferred playing OH. WL was the better server. Was there conflict growing here? Very possibly. Whitney is very competitive and very athletic. She is also outspoken and head strong. All good traits for success. WL is not one to tolerate unfairness. Was there unfairness from her perspective? Was this what she meant by growing mutual disrespect between her and Coach Cook? Possibly. Classic conflicts within teams IMO: player vs team, player perceptions vs coach perspections. Anyway that's my take. NE is not anti-family. Coach Cook is a very demanding coach. The work expected of NE VB players is not for everyone, I would include myself in that group (I do not have the talent to compete in sports at that level nor the desire.) To me, it seems the seeds for conflict can be found in the recruiting process, and a very competitive gym exacerbated this. Add in conflicts between WL and Coach Cook and transfer for WL makes sense. Placing blame on either Coach Cook, a very successful NE VB program or WL doesn't make sense from my perspective. What % of players are transferring? Are all those coaches and programs bad in some way, or just SA looking out for their best interests, which they should. Anyway that is my thoughts on this. Wish WL the best, but WHY TX? ARGHH!#$%! Also would advise her to move on and get over NE. It's a big world with many opportunities, especially for someone with her abilities. OMG this is way too long. You forgot to mention Madi Endsley in the ‘21 recruiting process. Which derailed a thread on here with messy speculations. If the conflict is indeed in the recruiting process, there’s a common denominator.
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Dec 28, 2023 11:13:46 GMT -5
Did JCook swoop in with more NIL money 🤣🤣🤣🤣 100% kidding don't at me Landfair likely Nebraska bound Of course she is
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Post by horns1 on Dec 28, 2023 11:26:46 GMT -5
Wenaas played all season. One would think she would come back better and stronger next year. WL was not playing volleyball games at all? Was she? So what makes us think the WL can just come back to VB and take a starting position? I'm not saying that Whitney will supplant Wenaas, I just don't think that a 3 rotation OH2 that hits .200 for the season is a player that should feel very confident keeping her spot...especially a spot on a team who wants to win a 3rd national title in a row. Jerritt Elliot may not be the best coach out there but he isn't dumb enough to think that the superior serving Texas had in the final week is something to count on night in and night out. Even during the holidays, you just can't help yourself with the jabs . . .
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Post by katn on Dec 28, 2023 11:28:51 GMT -5
In Whitney's announcement to enter the transfer portal she said she quit the team at the end of the 22 season before she knew she was pregnant. Her stated reason for leaving was disrespect for Coach Cook and conflicts with her commitment to family during the holidays. My guess: NE played 3 home games from 11/20/22 to 11/26/22. Suspect this was the immediate time frame that WL wanted to spend more time with her family at Thansgiving. This seemed reasonable for her, as her family is in Lincoln or Wahoo. Not so reasonable from Cook's perspective who is trying to rebuild his team after losing team captain Kenzie Knuckles to an ACL injury just before the 12/20 match. Also if this scenario is true (WL wanted more time with family over Thanksgiving) there was likely a fairness issue, if Whitney gets time off, other players should too. Two sides of a conflict, as always. I suspect the seeds of conflict go back to the 2021 recruiting process. Four players were teammates with USA VB: Batenhorst (OH), Krause (OH), Orr (S) and Rodriguez (L). These four players were offered 4 year scholarships and committed shortly thereafter. NE also recruited Gray (MB) and WL (OH) as walk-ons. Gray walked on, but left the team due to post-covid medical issues. Ultimately WL was offered a scholarship and committed to NE. At that time she stated she would not have committed to NE had a scholarship not been offered. An expression of frustration on her part over her recruitment process with NE? Seemed likely to me at the time. Note the 21 class had 3 OH's on scholarship. WL didn't get much playing time in 21, but won the OPP starting spot in 22, shifting Krause from OPP to OH. Did WL prefer OH? Did she feel she was a better OH than Krause and Batenhorst? A case can be made for this. A case can also be made that NE was stronger with WL at OPP and Krause at OH, and vice versa. NE rotation at the time had WL taking one rotation at OH and 2 at OPP. Vice versa for Krause. Krause preferred playing OH. WL was the better server. Was there conflict growing here? Very possibly. Whitney is very competitive and very athletic. She is also outspoken and head strong. All good traits for success. WL is not one to tolerate unfairness. Was there unfairness from her perspective? Was this what she meant by growing mutual disrespect between her and Coach Cook? Possibly. Classic conflicts within teams IMO: player vs team, player perceptions vs coach perspections. Anyway that's my take. NE is not anti-family. Coach Cook is a very demanding coach. The work expected of NE VB players is not for everyone, I would include myself in that group (I do not have the talent to compete in sports at that level nor the desire.) To me, it seems the seeds for conflict can be found in the recruiting process, and a very competitive gym exacerbated this. Add in conflicts between WL and Coach Cook and transfer for WL makes sense. Placing blame on either Coach Cook, a very successful NE VB program or WL doesn't make sense from my perspective. What % of players are transferring? Are all those coaches and programs bad in some way, or just SA looking out for their best interests, which they should. Anyway that is my thoughts on this. Wish WL the best, but WHY TX? ARGHH!#$%! Also would advise her to move on and get over NE. It's a big world with many opportunities, especially for someone with her abilities. OMG this is way too long. You forgot to mention Madi Endsley in the ‘21 recruiting process. Which derailed a thread on here with messy speculations. If the conflict is indeed in the recruiting process, there’s a common denominator. ?
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Post by rjaege on Dec 28, 2023 11:40:02 GMT -5
In Whitney's announcement to enter the transfer portal she said she quit the team at the end of the 22 season before she knew she was pregnant. Her stated reason for leaving was disrespect for Coach Cook and conflicts with her commitment to family during the holidays. My guess: NE played 3 home games from 11/20/22 to 11/26/22. Suspect this was the immediate time frame that WL wanted to spend more time with her family at Thansgiving. This seemed reasonable for her, as her family is in Lincoln or Wahoo. Not so reasonable from Cook's perspective who is trying to rebuild his team after losing team captain Kenzie Knuckles to an ACL injury just before the 12/20 match. Also if this scenario is true (WL wanted more time with family over Thanksgiving) there was likely a fairness issue, if Whitney gets time off, other players should too. Two sides of a conflict, as always. I suspect the seeds of conflict go back to the 2021 recruiting process. Four players were teammates with USA VB: Batenhorst (OH), Krause (OH), Orr (S) and Rodriguez (L). These four players were offered 4 year scholarships and committed shortly thereafter. NE also recruited Gray (MB) and WL (OH) as walk-ons. Gray walked on, but left the team due to post-covid medical issues. Ultimately WL was offered a scholarship and committed to NE. At that time she stated she would not have committed to NE had a scholarship not been offered. An expression of frustration on her part over her recruitment process with NE? Seemed likely to me at the time. Note the 21 class had 3 OH's on scholarship. WL didn't get much playing time in 21, but won the OPP starting spot in 22, shifting Krause from OPP to OH. Did WL prefer OH? Did she feel she was a better OH than Krause and Batenhorst? A case can be made for this. A case can also be made that NE was stronger with WL at OPP and Krause at OH, and vice versa. NE rotation at the time had WL taking one rotation at OH and 2 at OPP. Vice versa for Krause. Krause preferred playing OH. WL was the better server. Was there conflict growing here? Very possibly. Whitney is very competitive and very athletic. She is also outspoken and head strong. All good traits for success. WL is not one to tolerate unfairness. Was there unfairness from her perspective? Was this what she meant by growing mutual disrespect between her and Coach Cook? Possibly. Classic conflicts within teams IMO: player vs team, player perceptions vs coach perspections. Anyway that's my take. NE is not anti-family. Coach Cook is a very demanding coach. The work expected of NE VB players is not for everyone, I would include myself in that group (I do not have the talent to compete in sports at that level nor the desire.) To me, it seems the seeds for conflict can be found in the recruiting process, and a very competitive gym exacerbated this. Add in conflicts between WL and Coach Cook and transfer for WL makes sense. Placing blame on either Coach Cook, a very successful NE VB program or WL doesn't make sense from my perspective. What % of players are transferring? Are all those coaches and programs bad in some way, or just SA looking out for their best interests, which they should. Anyway that is my thoughts on this. Wish WL the best, but WHY TX? ARGHH!#$%! Also would advise her to move on and get over NE. It's a big world with many opportunities, especially for someone with her abilities. OMG this is way too long. You forgot to mention Madi Endsley in the ‘21 recruiting process. Which derailed a thread on here with messy speculations. If the conflict is indeed in the recruiting process, there’s a common denominator. No relationship to WL issues. Don't see conflicts in recruiting process. NE recruiting is doing well. So well that at least one TX fan considers NE the evil empire.
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Post by volleyball303 on Dec 28, 2023 11:47:15 GMT -5
Did JCook swoop in with more NIL money 🤣🤣🤣🤣 100% kidding don't at me Landfair likely Nebraska bound Is there anyway to hid her and Beason both on serve receive? I can’t imagine them holding up against those Texas serves. Texas was not even trying to hid who they were serving to in that final. They just kept going straight at their targets.
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Post by milkmandan on Dec 28, 2023 11:47:49 GMT -5
Did JCook swoop in with more NIL money 🤣🤣🤣🤣 100% kidding don't at me Landfair likely Nebraska bound Wisconsin still seems pretty confident she's heading to Madison.
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Post by allballs on Dec 28, 2023 11:52:38 GMT -5
You forgot to mention Madi Endsley in the ‘21 recruiting process. Which derailed a thread on here with messy speculations. If the conflict is indeed in the recruiting process, there’s a common denominator. No relationship to WL issues. Don't see conflicts in recruiting process. NE recruiting is doing well. So well that at least one TX fan considers NE the evil empire. JBOL. You swept under the rug faster than that 3rd set loss.
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Dec 28, 2023 11:54:38 GMT -5
Landfair likely Nebraska bound Wisconsin still seems pretty confident she's heading to Madison. "Wisconsin" seems confident. Who do you consider "Wisconsin"?
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Post by chibadgerfan on Dec 28, 2023 11:57:18 GMT -5
Landfair likely Nebraska bound Of course she is I could see that, and I may need to eat my words, but if TL were to go to Nebraska, it should’ve already happened a couple of days ago. I do wonder if TL’s priorities have changed and she’s gone shopping outside the highest tier teams, to at least comparison shop before accepting an offer. She is after all 25% older than the last time she did this. OTOH, she can’t wait too long, as there are other fish in the sea, maybe not as big as she, but we’ll see.
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